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Chris Franklin
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Posted: 6th Jul 2006 00:19 Edited at: 8th Jul 2006 23:07
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Platformer game reviews

Engines allowed: All

If anything you will be submitting uses stuff that would break the license please provide the code that wouldn't and upload an exe

Media can be made whenever as long as you made it your slef or got permisson


Been thinking about it for a while

Would anyone be intrested in entering/Donating/Sponosring a platformer compo?
I know there's a lot of compos and all i just thought it's gonna be an awesome idea it's a chance to learn stuff and earn stomething
duration is currently set at 1 month
If this turns out successful then I'll set up more compos with a different theme each time
Basic rules:
Game must be made for compo
Game must be a platformer
No using Copyrighted media unless you've got permisson
Game must be suitable for all ages (No pr0n e.t.c)
Sponsosrs will have access to modify code (Sorry but this is how i'm getting the bigger prize)
EXternal dlls are allowed as long as they are supplyed
no need to provide source code, but it is encouraged to (Extra points )
game must display a splash screen at beginning for at least 5sec
Game must remain freeware

Current prize list
Limited edition Ultimate dbp Resource round up and an early beta of whiteknuckle + if it sells a free copy of the complete game(Submitted by me )
2 3DMapEditor's licence's (Thanks Freddix)(Added to 1st, 2nd,3rd place prizes with whatever else)
CR'S CAT LOL!(Unoffical (Still not confirmed))

You must provide an exe and if you want it can be open source so others can learn from it

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Thansk for moving the thread rich

*Bump*

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Not another compo...

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Posted: 6th Jul 2006 19:17 Edited at: 6th Jul 2006 19:21
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You kinda left out, "Game must be a platformer" for the basic rules.
There are too many compos going on right now. Wait for some to end, then start this one.

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Quote: "There are too many compos going on right now. Wait for some to end, then start this one."


That is true I'm just getting Feedback for now and intrest then when the others finish start this one off i just need to see what people think really and see if anyone has anything to donate

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Knowing your reputation on these forums, I won't put my money on this compo getting any submissions.


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Posted: 6th Jul 2006 21:08
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Quote: "Knowing your reputation on these forums, I won't put my money on this compo getting any submissions."


Well id o know someone who just reads the boards who's intrested and i'm sure some people with some spare time will be

Also updated the rules

No point and click apps

So that means source code doesn't need to be public just emailed to me or another judge... (With media)

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I am sponsoring a $200 cash prize!
Additional requirements/restrictions:
Submitted code may be modified and/or redistributed.
There must be a minimum of 10 entries.
Submissions must not exceed 64MB in system resources when launched.
Code must not copy commercial platformers (no using super mario or sonic the hedgehog etc.)

Code fair and be original! Good luck!

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Also The code doesn't have to be public just to sponsors that submit stuff so e-mail it or if you want just post it here

Good luck to everyone

I will be starting this compo when 10 people have decided they will enter and who knows the next 1 might have even bigger and better prizes

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Additional information:
For a description/definition of a platformer see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platformer

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Quote: "Submitted code may be modified and/or redistributed."


So let me get this straight--- we email you the code privately and you turn around and modify it and sell it under your own brand?

Hmmm...

I would consider if I didn't have to submit my source.


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Quote: "Quote: "Submitted code may be modified and/or redistributed."

So let me get this straight--- we email you the code privately and you turn around and modify it and sell it under your own brand?

Hmmm...

I would consider if I didn't have to submit my source."


I'm talking to Alquerin right now about it to see how this can be sorted I'll edit with what's be sorted in a min

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yes, it may be better to not have to submit our source code but to insert a splash screen at the game beginning for sponsors.
Also, the sponsor image must be provided before the competition start to be sure this sponsors is not some sort of irrespectuous/illegal ad... that may give offense to the original game author.
@Agree with Jeku.

All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
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What time frame are you thinking of for allowing us to work on our entries?

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Posted: 6th Jul 2006 23:26 Edited at: 6th Jul 2006 23:26
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The code and/or media will not be resold, it will be (possibly) be redistributed at no cost. Much like the free games you find on sites like albinoblacksheep or other sites which use submissions to drive traffic. My motivations are really no different in concept. Credits will remain intact or credits will be added where they are due.

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30 days - edit

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I reckon this was Chris' Brilliant Idea to get a load of free Source Code.

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Posted: 6th Jul 2006 23:29 Edited at: 6th Jul 2006 23:30
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Thanks Alquerin
Hopefully it'll make it more clear now
@Jeku
Would that be any better?
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Quote: "What time frame are you thinking of for allowing us to work on our entries?"

1 month for now
Could be longer depending on intrest

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No it's not it's an idea i thought would be nice i was trying to start a friendly Community compo

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@Alquerian : which payment method will you use to pay the prize cos, depending on the methos, only USA people (cos you're in USA apparently) cans participate ... if you pay using system like PAYPAL, everyone in the world can submit.
It may be defined in the competition rules

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@ Chris Then why the giving up of source code?

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@Freddix I prefer to use Paypal. And it is open to everyone who wishes to enter.

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Quote: "Then why the giving up of source code?"

The sponsor has already explained that.....(As much as i know anyway and that is subject to change)

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An answer to those who wish to know why we would like access to the source:

I would like to have the source for reference purposes, also if any modifications need to be made, they can be done so without having to go back to the original developer. The developer(s) may include their credits if they do not mind being represented. They may also opt to ommit their credits.

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I enter the compo



Quote: "Game must be suitable for all ages (No pr0n e.t.c)"


Does this mean no violence ?

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Firstly, I would have hoped for a more Organised contest at the start, simply because we are having to provide source code and there is prize.

So I want to clarify a few things.

-Can I use any engine? As long at it uses user coded script. By your specifications would Torque be acceptable, considering I think trying a platformer would make good use of things I am learning, however, programmed entities and models and langscape are placed/edited in an editor and collision/physics is pre programmed.

-Does media have to be original? (saves me time on textures )
-When does it end?

-Also the only source I can provide would be such things as pick up object, GUI commands, AI, Weapons, Particles, to actually provide the full source from C++ would go against my liscence

But please provide more info around those and well everything.

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Quote: "Does this mean no violence ?"

Just have some like in the old Crash bandicoot games lol

Nothing with blood tho overwise it miss's out

Quote: "I enter the compo
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Hehe yay!

Quote: "-Also the only source I can provide would be such things as pick up object, GUI commands, AI, Weapons, Particles, to actually provide the full source from C++ would go against my liscence "

Just submit the pparts you can then

Edit:
Edited top with more info

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lol

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lol Secret hiding base w00t

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@Musashi

It ends 30 days from the 10th entry
edit - You can use 3rd party plugins as you see fit.
The compo is open for any engine/language that your heart fancies.
Media does not need to be 100% original, but cannot be copywrited material. Please be as original and creative as you can though.

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I think I will be joining this.
One question though, one entry per person?

common people are walking in line.
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Quote: "One question though, one entry per person?"

As many as needed


So that makes abou 8 people entering

Habatar (Spoke to on msn)
Someone who's just a reader of the boards (not a member)
Jeku if he decides to enter
Soapyfish (msn also)
Valle
Musashi
Open_Froz (Hopefully)
Slooper
and some other people

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@Valle you can have violence, so long as it is not tasteless. No exploding babies or anything.

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You call that tasteless?

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Tasteless is an opinion.

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The only tasteless thing would be having either...Barabara Streisand, Aqua, Spice girls or Abba playing in the background...exploding babies? Well I think you gave me an idea

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@Musashi

Don't forget about the impolding mother...

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The source code thing is the only thing bothering me here, I would like to see perhaps only the winner have to send their source for verification, after all then you at least got $200 for it. Quite frankly if my code is just going to get posted somewhere, I am not going to provide my best code so forty people can just plug in their own media and say they have a game. What is to stop anyone who reads the code (not talking about the judges, talking about if they post it somewhere) from adopting it as their own and credit for my work goes out the window. I post alot of code for people to learn from already, if this becomes a standard in compos I will have no code left to call my own

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Submitter's source code will not be posted anywhere. The only thing that may be redistributed is the executable. If anyone does not wish to have their code stolen or plagerized, do not post it publicly, email it to one of the judges. Rest assured

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As Musashi said, I wanna test my directX capabilities, so, can I code in C++ with the directX SDK? If I can't or I'm not advanced yet, I'll do it in DBPro. Also, I aggree with the rule that we just set a splash screen of the sponsor(s) instead of sending the source code.(don't know if this have been already fix). But I don't mind sending my code, but there only some file that I couldn't because I don't know if I can send them.


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I find it extremely hard to believe that this person is willing to cough up 200 smackers for a platformer's source without any economical return. He just joined the forums, it seems like a scam to me.

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@Ruccus

I'm trying to speak to "Alquerian" on msn now even tho he seems idle

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Quote: "Don't forget about the impolding mother..."


Of course! But I'm gonna keep it simple for now, I only just got my Torque book.

My Current Ideas -
Simple Platformer, where you have to collect items to reach the end of each level...however there are evil little deadly creatures trying to stop you, as in any classic platform they kill you on touch (so sinister!) You can either make your way around them with out getting hurt, or simply, shoot them with your rocket launcher, thats the vantage point, but there will be parts where killing them won't be so easy. All stuff I should be able to do and almost already know how to do, so hopefully I can get a few levels into it and I'll probaly post screenies with test media. But I'm afraid, the enemies will not be babies

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Quote: "I find it extremely hard to believe that this person is willing to cough up 200 smackers for a platformer's source without any economical return. He just joined the forums, it seems like a scam to me."
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My Current Ideas -
Simple Platformer, where you have to collect items to reach the end of each level...however there are evil little deadly creatures trying to stop you, as in any classic platform they kill you on touch (so sinister!) You can either make your way around them with out getting hurt, or simply, shoot them with your rocket launcher, thats the vantage point, but there will be parts where killing them won't be so easy. All stuff I should be able to do and almost already know how to do, so hopefully I can get a few levels into it and I'll probaly post screenies with test media. But I'm afraid, the enemies will not be babies "


haha that sounds awesome good luck with it and i'm looking forward to testing it

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Alquerian, you're a crazy guy to give up that much money for a contest like this. Good for you.

However, the source code thing makes this a no-go for me. My best code is private at the moment. I wouldn't want to make a game with anything but my best, so my concerns are simply incompatible with the rules.

Good luck with it though. Hope you get lots of entries.


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What guarantee is there that there is actually a $200 prize?

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Thanks Cash when Alquerian replys on msn i'll try and sort something out

Quote: "What guarantee is there that there is actually a $200 prize?"

A whole msn log

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Musashi, you just gave me an idea. My plateformer will be, you are a little thingy, (aven't decided yet) and you need to collect keys to open door. but those door are guarded by guard. You need to find a way to kill them ( there no rocket launcher.) you'll need to set the trap that are in the level to on to kill those monster and proceed to the next level with the key. That is my idea.


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Quote: "Musashi, you just gave me an idea. My plateformer will be, you are a little thingy, (aven't decided yet) and you need to collect keys to open door. but those door are guarded by guard. You need to find a way to kill them ( there no rocket launcher.) you'll need to set the trap that are in the level to on to kill those monster and proceed to the next level with the key. That is my idea."


WOW These ideas are Great 3 more days till the compo starts an ideas go into dev

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