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FPSC Classic Product Chat / Which Laptop should I get to Run FPSC?

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m4marksman
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Hey everyonbe I want to buy a laptop after this holiday season and I've been doing my research. I'll post a link of the one I think I am going to get but I figured this would be a great way to find out 1. if its good and 2. if anyone has any better suggestions. I'd like to spend no more than $850. I will be using this laptop for gaming and FPSC as well as school work and I'd really like for it to be able to run newer games on high settings. Let me know thanks!

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+Pavilion+Laptop+/+Intel%26%23174%3B+Core%26%23153%3B+i7+Processor+/+17.3%26%2334%3B+Display+-+Steel+Gray/3649119.p?id=1218424174524&skuId=3649119&st=laptop i7 processor&cp=1&lp=7

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Errant AI
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You should expect to pay 1000-1500 for a new, suitable laptop for FPSC use because you will need something without integrated graphics and with an Nvidia GPU. Even then, certain features like water or post processing will maul a low-end Nvidia mobile GPU but you will have higher overall compatibility compared to integrated graphics or an ATI GPU.
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Slayer267
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Posted: 5th Dec 2011 03:15
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I use this...

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+Laptop+/+Intel%26%23174%3B+Core%26%23153%3B+i7+Processor+/+17.3%26%2334%3B+Display+/+8GB+Memory+-+Black/3411058.p?id=1218399201395&skuId=3411058&st=G74sx&cp=1&lp=1

Its quite amazing. 1million polys with a 30 fps

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Akanto10
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Posted: 5th Dec 2011 03:25
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You may need something else because of the CPU and GPU.

CPU: It's rated at 2.2GHz stock, and I believe FPSC only utilizes 2 cores. While that's not bad, you may want something better for optimal performance. For games, you will definitely want something better.

GPU: Intel integrated Graphics - While this may or may not be okay for FPSC, you are always better off with an Nvidia or ATI card so that it's speed isn't dependent on the CPU.

That's just my 2 cents. The Hard Drive capacity is okay and the RAM is good.

Hope this helps,
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Quote: "You should expect to pay 1000-1500 for a new, suitable laptop for FPSC use because you will need something without integrated graphics"


Don't get me wrong, but I believe that FPSC can run perfect on an i7. I played TF2 on Medium-High and used FPSC on my 1st Gen i5
and I get steady frame-rates all around. Now if you want to do high-end gaming with a laptop... you might be better off with a
desktop.

I hate to say this because Alienware was NEVER and NEVER will be my preferred choice... but the cheapest DX11 gaming laptop you could get might be the Mx11.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alienware-MX11-Really-Cool-Netbook-/180762204738?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item2a16445a42#ht_521wt_1008

Now, eBay isn't the best place to buy electronics (trust me, I know) but its your cheapest solution I would think.
Overall though, I used my i5 to play Dusk and my FPS was around 25-30 in a level with a ton of lights and water. You might
be able to manage FPSC with that laptop... but definitely not do any serious or semi-serious gaming.

Whoever said that Intel graphics fail, obviously never owned a Core i5.
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m4marksman
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Thanks for the help guys now I know what to look for. I really want a laptop, not a desk top because I will be going to college in a year so it'd be a lot easier for that. I'll look into something with your guys' suggested specs and find something more suitable

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@ASTEK

While I'm sure the integrated HD3000 graphics of an i7 is reasonably capable, I only put that price range out there because You're generally looking at 1100 minimum before you start seeing Nvidia graphics being offered (like Slayer's laptop). The i7 itself is sort of a wash with FPSC since only one core is ever used during gameplay. HL2 engine is very efficient. FPSC is not.

As a point of reference, I had an ASUS Dual-core Pentium notebook with Nvidia 9300MG graphics. While it was no power horse, it ran FPSC decently well (aside from post processing) and ran other modern games on high settings. I never had compatibility problems with shaders that users with integrated or Ati graphics experienced.

@M4marksman- You could still consider buying/building a desktop. And then when you go to college buy an up to date netbook to take with you to classes and such. Battery times on most decent laptops suck and are a drag to carry around everywhere. Desktop PC is also harder to steal from your room.
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Soviet176
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Quote: "@M4marksman- You could still consider buying/building a desktop"


I agree, you can build a pretty decent gaming rig for 850. Not all mobility is a loss however, get yourself a lanboy case or something small with a handle on it, in case you need to take it to college. Trust me when I say you will not want a integrated GPU or even a low end dedicated GPU.

Right now I picked up 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz Ram for my server for 29.99 on newegg. That's a steal, with smart shopping you can easily get a Nvidia 570 8gb of ram and a AMD 6 core processor within 850. And you can always upgrade later, try upgrading a laptop, you'll kill yourself.

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maho76
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the guys around here beat me up, but: dont think about fpsc or gaming when its about your future.

when you think you need a laptop to get college done in a good way, buy one. but when you think its not that essential, buy a desktop-pc = much more machinepower for the same amount of money.
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Posted: 6th Dec 2011 01:07 Edited at: 6th Dec 2011 01:09
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Quote: "HL2 engine is very efficient. FPSC is not."


Not exactly. Intel has been known to have shoddy graphics processing but I used my i5 laptop for FPSC at one time and it ran beautifully.
It ran Dusk (my FPSC game) just fine... and that game slugged on a few desktops I tried it on. I feel that its capable for what
FPSC can initially do. To me, a sandy-bridge i7 for FPSC alone, wouldn't be a bad choice. It's all on his call however.

Whoever said that Intel graphics fail, obviously never owned a Core i5.
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I would say any of these might work,


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=476965&CatId=4938

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1159307&CatId=4938

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=286121&CatId=4939


Now, i chose TigerDirect (i guess you could check NewEgg, but i don't know about their laptops..) because i have bought multiple things from them and they are very good with delivering things. Their prices are also fairly cheap, and they just have good products overall. But Best Buy is also a great place since they actually have a store you can go into and check them out. I recommend just searching around for a while until you find one that is suitable for your needs, and is quite fast. Now you also have to take into account that once you buy this machine, it will most likely be outdated in about 2-4 years. The desktop i just built is pretty much outdated already and i built it last year. I didn't pay attention to the parts i was getting.. But as long as you choose a good brand with good specs, it should be fine for a while. Also, what games were you trying to run? Like Crysis or Call Of Duty? Im using a AMD Phenom X3 GHz processor with 4GB of ram and i can run both Crysis 1/2 and all of the Call Of Duty games on High/Ultra. Oh and im also using an HD Radeon 5770 1GB GPU.

Hope this helps!
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Posted: 6th Dec 2011 19:14
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Quote: "You should expect to pay 1000-1500 for a new, suitable laptop for FPSC use because you will need something without integrated graphics and with an Nvidia GPU"


I disagree. I bought my computer a couple of years ago on sale for $250 with the following specs (based on what the DXDiag program and Windows system information told me):

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo CPU T6500 @2.10 GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.1 GHz
Memory: 4.00 GB RAM
Graphics Card: Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family (Approx. Total Memory: 1.8 GB)

Note that my processor is a Centrino.

So, you don't necessarily need the Minimum System Requirements prescribed by TGC: Pentium III Processor and a lot of other stuff to make it run well. I run FPSC all the time on my machine, and it works great, speed wise, etc.

Just my two cents.
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Cross Hair Games
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Hey everyone, back to the forums. If you remember me then hey, I unexpectedly left as I got a summer job, and was without Internet for the summer, and forgot about video games in all. But I'm back now.

Now on topic, I have and would strongly suggest an Asus Republic of Gamers Laptop. Any of the series, I have the X-1 I believe it's called, don't get this pirticular model though, there's a small issue where the AC In port has a prong on it that comes lose on the mother board. Mines been sent in twice already to have it fixed. My babies probably 10 months old, and warranty covers it. But all the newer models are great. I have yet to top out my FPS on it for any game. Even BF3, at full settings. Hope that helps. They will run you about $1500 but it's worth it. Also look a an AlienWare x17

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Sorry for double post, iPhone won't let me
Edit.
My specs are (off the top of my head so I'll only give the ones I deffinetly know)
8gb of Ram, 2.5gb video memory, X11 pre installed, dual i7 cores, and up to 3.0 GHz

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Posted: 9th Dec 2011 14:37 Edited at: 9th Dec 2011 14:41
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Quote: "I will be using this laptop for gaming and FPSC "


If you're going to be doing any gaming on this laptop, regardless of FPSC, don't even think about an intergrated graphics chip. Ignore the advice that an integrated graphics chip is "good enough". You'll want a discrete graphics card from Nvidia or ATI.

Heck, a new game like Skyrim won't even let you in the door unless you have an Nvidia GTX 260, that's the minimum requirement! Requirements are only going to up from there in the future.

So look at the Asus Republic of gamers line - they are affordable and have discrete Nvidia cards. Shouldn't be hard to find an online deal in your price range - perhaps a refurbished model even.

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I agree with bond, I have yet to find the limits of my laptop, and it's in the lower end of the Republic line!

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