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Encrypto Studios
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Posted: 1st May 2007 01:37
on over the weakend i saw some nice lambos and farieis(spelling?)
going by my house
heres a picture of one tell me if you want more. i took all the pictures i could

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Venge
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Posted: 1st May 2007 02:29
Well, I've never seen a faerie, but I did see a lamborghini on the back of a truck last week.

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Posted: 1st May 2007 02:32 Edited at: 1st May 2007 02:34
If I am to ever buy a supercar* I would buy one from Tesla Motors.

http://www.teslamotors.com

pretty cool video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOl_1S10jTk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqUjATkpQ6E&mode=related&search=

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Posted: 1st May 2007 02:32
Come on man...did you even attempt to car jack even one of them???

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Posted: 1st May 2007 02:55
I'm with Alquerian on the Tesla! First heard about it a year ago.

I wouldn't mind having a Bugatti Veyron.

Quote: " farieis(spelling?)"

Ferrari

And your lambo looks like a gallardo. I've seen a few around town, along with vipers and even an aston martin once. Few miles outside of town is a huge lambo dealership, its next door to where i bought my 300m.


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Posted: 1st May 2007 20:25
Lotus Elise seems to be my dream car, a Mazda RX 8 Le Mans car would be nice, race it around runways, I have a friend who loves cars, have a race with him, I'll be in the Mazda, him in my lotus...Being that rich would be nice, but it won't happen

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Posted: 1st May 2007 20:30
I already plan to buy a lotus one day, but maybe the exige. Im not a fan of convertibles.


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Posted: 1st May 2007 20:47 Edited at: 1st May 2007 20:48
i saw a lotus when i was in Hong Kong... was sitting next to my taxi at a stoplight. i have no idea what kind of lotus... or even if there are different kinds... i just know we pulled up next to it and i thought it looked really stinkin cool... and it said "lotus" on the back "air-drag-fin-thing"



that city apparently has the largest per capita of rolls royce... (whatever that means)

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Posted: 1st May 2007 20:56
I've always wanted the '65 Ford Mustang, i do quite like the new one though.

Till then though, i'm stuck with my 307....


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Posted: 1st May 2007 21:18
All of the stangs after the early 70s really sucked, including the new ones. They might be fast and they might look pretty cool, but you have to be under 6' to fit in the darn things. Honestly, a geo metro has more leg room.

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Posted: 5th May 2007 02:56
My Dream "Super Car" is the Mercedes Mclaren SLR.
http://www.diseno-art.com/images/mercedes_slr_side.jpg

I've had the good fortune to TRY and sit in one. But being 6'8".... it wasn't going to happen!

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top speed of supposedly 280mph! I saw one on top gear before.(i think)


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Posted: 5th May 2007 22:01
We've got a Bugatti Veyron owner down the "rich end" of town, where all the footballers (mostly Everton and Liverpool players) live. I don't know if you know him, but it belongs to the Final Score presenter, Ray Stubbs. I've only ever seen it twice, beauty of a car though!

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Quote: "Being that rich would be nice, but it won't happen"
You do know how much Elises cost right? I mean they aren't cheap and cost a fair whack to run (friend of mine is constantly getting repairs to run, so comes out to a similar price to my old Scoobie), but hardly "being that rich". Sure you are not mixing up with the Esprit?

Heh, as for exotic cars we have a brand new Ferrari convertible owner here. Very nice, but you constantly see him either at Costa coffee, or doing the beach route (esp. now when more and more birds in bikinis are turning up). Nice car. Doesn't help though that he is old, fat, and balding. Amusingly for non-cypriots it normally costs a bomb in duty to bring a car in (even though we are supposed to be in the EU and all that). I've heard of 20 year old Mercs requiring £20k duty to get them in (thats $40k). Niiiicceeee... People don't realise and apparently there are car parks of government lockups with top cars in just sitting there (mainly because the owners think the EU is going to sort them out even more than they have already; Cyprus got fined lots not so long ago apparently). It's all to do the engine size and some other stuff, so I dread to think how much the Ferrari would be. Then again if you bought a brand new one in the first place.... because of the massive duty and engine size (1.8 or bigger goes up massively) it may come as no suprise the RX8 is dead popular here

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Quote: "You do know how much Elises cost right? I mean they aren't cheap and cost a fair whack to run"


They're not that expensive either, between $40k - $50k. I plan on buying one eventually, but the challenger comes first.


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Posted: 5th May 2007 23:45
Well unless I'm rich enough to run a Lotus, I probably will stick with the Mazda option, but I'll heading for a career in journalism/writing, some people in that area earn a small bundle, might become one of them.

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Posted: 6th May 2007 01:34 Edited at: 6th May 2007 01:36
Speaking of exotic cars today, I was on the way to the shops and saw another Skyline, but GTS shape. Cruised about on the M3 with him for a bit, but he must've been packing some serious mods, because he was going from 80-120mph in the blink of an eye.

It's all very well drooling over ferraris and lambos, but if you actually want to own a super car and not just dream about em, you can get similar performance from modded jap super sedans and still get 4 people and your shopping in them, and afford them on an average wage. Oh, and they're not status symbols, which means you don't look like a prick.


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Posted: 6th May 2007 01:39 Edited at: 6th May 2007 01:41
Quote: "We've got a Bugatti Veyron owner down the "rich end" of town, where all the footballers (mostly Everton and Liverpool players) live. I don't know if you know him, but it belongs to the Final Score presenter, Ray Stubbs. I've only ever seen it twice, beauty of a car though!"


£850,000 base price and hardly insurance companies will insure it.
Costs them £15million to make each one, so it's for those of extraordinary wealth. Ya right now, gorgeous car.

As far as supercars go, personally I'd have a Porsche GT; cause they just look, sound and drive beautifully. At the Porsche factory you can drive one round their test track for £150/hr, but totally worth it

There's 2 cars I wouldn't mind owning and driving on a daily basis though, which are probably in my price-range.
There is the obvious Ford Mustang GT500 1976-Edition, but obviously restored (perhaps by those overhaul boys lol) and this bizare yet strangely appealing vehicle. Just looks a sheer unique driving experience.

As for the Tesla, sorry but it looks like a Lotus Exige but slightly modified. As for the top-speed, sorry but 130MPH just isn't "Supercar" teritory.. sure it can accelerate quite well, but that's only cause of the torque. For me unless it can do more than 180mph just not worth a second look. While you might say "well when will you actually get up to that?", that really isn't the point.. but that said that's what "track days" are for :p

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Quote: "sure it can accelerate quite well, but that's only cause of the torque. "

and super light weight

My appeal towards the Tesla (other than i think it looks nice) is the gas mileage. Few cars retain power with increased fuel economy.


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Posted: 6th May 2007 08:11
Quote: "£850,000 base price and hardly insurance companies will insure it. Costs them £15million to make each one"


Is it just me, or does that just not add up?


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It's just you.

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Posted: 6th May 2007 11:28 Edited at: 6th May 2007 11:29
Quote: "Is it just me, or does that just not add up?"


Dunno about the facts and the figures, but some of these super car companies do indeed make a loss when selling their cars. Not sure if it's £14.15 million for each one ... that sounds rediculous to me (most likely a made up figure as usual), but they make their money elsewhere and make/sell super cars at a loss for company presitige.

When you consider that, you could argue that a £700k super car is actually good value for money.


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Posted: 6th May 2007 19:11
Ferrari 599
Ferrari F430 (not the spider though)
Aston Martin DB7
Lotus Elise
Bugatti EB110

That's my definitive list of dream cars that I hope to one day own. Even if I could only have the first four I'd be happy... the Bugatti EB110, weighing it at around $1m, might not be worth it to me . But the two Ferraris on the list are must-buys if I ever become a millionaire!


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Posted: 6th May 2007 20:17 Edited at: 6th May 2007 20:17
I'd have too much of a conscience to go buy a pointlessly expensive car when there are people dying from poverty in all parts of the world.

.. Besides, what good is a supercar on regular roads?

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Posted: 6th May 2007 20:23 Edited at: 6th May 2007 20:23
Always buy second hand too! Never buy cars new. My car was £55k new, and I got it in great condition for £13k. Someone lost £40k on that car, and it wasn't me!


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Cars? A VW bug came within spitting distance of my pond once.
I think the owner was trying to get rid of it by driving into the water, but it wouldn't start.

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- Subaru Impreza WRX STi
- Subaru Impreza GT


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Posted: 6th May 2007 21:12
Quote: "Besides, what good is a supercar on regular roads?"


aw cmon man, that should be the easy question, to pick up chicks!


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Quote: "aw cmon man, that should be the easy question, to pick up chicks!"

Lame.

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Quote: "aw cmon man, that should be the easy question, to pick up chicks!"


lame indeed, if she's interested in you because of the car alone, then she's not worth having. Way too shallow for me.

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The Elise a good mix of price and economy (38mpg ish on the mkII). Top speed is useless on the roads so the Elise aims for good 0-60.
Reliability is no longer a problem as it now uses a Toyota engine I believe.

I'll probably end up buying a smart roadster instead though for the lower price, extra mpg, cheaper insurance and anti lock breaking (kinda useful for rear wheel drive)



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Quote: "They're not that expensive either"
You didn't finish my sentence. Elises are cheap as chips compared to most performance cars. When I saw one years ago it almost knocked me for six to find out exactly how cheap they are. I was just saying they cost a fair amount to run, but hardly supercar costs. As for reliability, well the engine might be better now, but the rest of the car can be a bit ropey. My friend has a new Elise and it constantly is in the garage for one reason or another. Plus I'm glad I never got one (almost did) as it would break my back getting into one each day.

Smart Roadster? I actually quite like them lookwise, but slow as hell. Go for a Scoobie like I did. Thing sticks to the ground like mustard. Nice. I remember a friend of mine trying to keep up in a BMW 330ci (think that is it; basically one off an M3. Nice, but I was never bothered with old mans cars and hell, you may as well buy an M3 at that point) on a real wet day on a roundabout leading round a corner to an M4 sliproad. I might as well as have been driving in a straight line at 30mph in the middle of a bone dry day for all the difference it made (I was accelerating pretty hard). He on the other hand was fish tailing all over the place Gotta love rear wheel drive on a rainy day flat out on a corner Afterwards he said he loved how rear wheel drive gave that proper racing feeling, and fish tailing (like close to crashing off the road) was all part of it. Rightio my rapidly decreasing dot on the rearview mirror. Ahhh.... all-wheel-drive..... Saying that these days I am taking it easy in the sun in a rear wheel drive car....

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Posted: 6th May 2007 23:41 Edited at: 6th May 2007 23:51
The scooby is the 1st choice of bank robbers, I don't fancy being mugged for the keys

The Elise Mk1 was unrealiable but what do they expect as it was based on a rover engine

I don't feel like I need a muscle car to be a man and I realy want to give the oil pirates as little of my cash as i can there are some cars available now returning 65mpg which would be good as I could drive around for a month without having to gas it up and then a full 30 liter tank would be less than £30.

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Quote: "lame indeed, if she's interested in you because of the car alone, then she's not worth having. Way too shallow for me."


I didn't say marry the floozy


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Posted: 7th May 2007 12:05 Edited at: 7th May 2007 12:06
Can't say I like that smart car. First thought was WTF? If a car has to grow on you before you can appreciate it, then everywhere you drive there will be people thinking the same thing. I couldn't spend money on a car that stands out knowing 50% of the people who see it are laughing at me.

I think 80% of peeps don't see anything special in my car. I'm fine with that. It's ok to blend in with the crowd, and that's one of the reasons why I like the Skyline cos it doesn't stick out to the average Joe. It's just appreciated by those who like/know cars, and underestimated by those that don't know cars (i.e. Porsche Boxster drivers ). I think if your car is gonna look radical, it needs to be a super car, otherwise keep the originalities subtle. Just my opinion.

Here's my motor. Looks like a fairly standard sports coupe to the unsuspecting motorist.




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Quote: "I don't feel like I need a muscle car to be a man"
Didn't say that. And there is a big difference between your classic "muscle car" and what we are talking about. We can go round corners At least I used to

And yeah, Fallout's car is awesome. Git. And I used to live around the corner from where he is. Pretty good roads for that sort of car. Not as good as where I come from (Wales), but then we have a *lot* of people dying because of stupid driving by people in shopping trolleys with spoilers (I'm talking Novas and Clios here).

Quote: "The Elise Mk1 was unrealiable"
And the new one is pretty much put together with gum and polish. Yeah, the engine is a lot more reliable, but the rest of it isn't exactly top quality. Looks good though.

Quote: "there are some cars available now returning 65mpg"
Erm, ok so you aren't american so we can forgive you for that one I suppose. But still c'mon, if you like cars and you want a good one, then a bloke (esp. one that doesn't have to do his test every year and didn't grow up in world war one) shouldn't really care about mpg if he can afford it. If you are "one of them" and want to save the planet then I'm afraid you shouldn't like cars. Oh no. Nope. Liking a shopping trolley is not the same as liking cars.

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Quote: "And there is a big difference between your classic "muscle car" and what we are talking about. We can go round corners"


aww, my challenger just got shot down!

Quote: "underestimated by those that don't know cars (i.e. Porsche Boxster drivers )"

my friend is about to buy a boxter. I was never much of a porsche fan, until doing more research. the boxster is actually one of the most reliable cars ever.


Quote: "shouldn't really care about mpg if he can afford it"

I don't know about that. Though I can afford to drive my car, I'm certainly not happy about paying $3.50 a gallon right now. I'd by a hybrid if companies would stop making them look so friggin ugly and small.


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Quote: "I'm certainly not happy about paying $3.50 a gallon right now"
Heh, that sort of thing always makes me laugh. Look up UK petrol prices for true amusements. There is a slight difference between UK and US gallons apparently (although we normally quote litres these days, but is probably a government ploy to make it look cheaper), but not enough to make the tax we pay amazingly laughable (I read somewhere years ago that it costs about the same on average to get it to the pumps in the UK as it does in the US). I say we, as I now pay about 2/3rds of what the UK pays (approx), which would still probably give you a heart attack and make you have to sell your car and take public transport should you have to pay any where near it. One of the reasons why I can't blame the mpg comment. But it's not what it's all about! Saving the planet (meh, just checkout all the mums taking their only kid to school in their bus sizes 4x4 effort) and your wallet are not what you want!

Quote: "aww, my challenger just got shot down!"
Yep. Driving ain't fun in a straight line. God gave us corners and back roads. He then gave us all wheel drive rally cars to basically not die horribly on them at 120mph (friend of mine has ditched 2 Elises so far...). Nice.

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speaking of lotus (and challenger), have you seen Bullrun? It's a reality show (i know, blah) but its about racing across country, and they have various challenges against each other. One of the first challenges was a '69 charger against a lotus and challenge was all about handling and control. The amusing part, the charger outperformed the lotus quite well.


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Quote: "Is it just me, or does that just not add up?"


Just quoting the figures they said on Top Gear.
They're repeating the last couple of seasons on G2, atm for anyone who doesn't believe me.

Quote: "Heh, that sort of thing always makes me laugh. Look up UK petrol prices for true amusements. There is a slight difference between UK and US gallons apparently (although we normally quote litres these days, but is probably a government ploy to make it look cheaper), but not enough to make the tax we pay amazingly laughable (I read somewhere years ago that it costs about the same on average to get it to the pumps in the UK as it does in the US). "


We pay approx. $7.25 per gallon(US) this is an adverage for Petrol or Diesil fuels. Although this said, about half of that is just tax. Americans should really think about that next time they complain at the prices they pay though.

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Quote: "about half of that is just tax"
I thought it was something dumb like 9/10ths was tax? I remember in Dubai it was tax free and you could fill your car up from scratch for like a fiver. Nice.

Quote: "Americans should really think about that next time they complain at the prices they pay though"
Dunno. At the end of day the culture is massive low mpg cars (which can't corner ). So at the end of the day a lot of people will be using a lot more fuel to go the same distance as us. My old Scoobie is considered pretty bad for mpg in the UK and goes like a rocket, but you still get around 20mpg. Then again with 4x4s (SUVs) taking off in the UK like no tomorrow in the last decade or so we are getting up there with big cars. I mean how much does it cost to fill a big 4x4??? My Scoobie cost around £40 to fill up, so an SUV must be like double that ($160). Niiiicccceeeee... Remember though that both american and imperial miles are very slightly different as is american and imperial gallons. Dunno if we use the imperial or not any more, but it makes a very very slight difference if we do. Someone also told me that the stuff americans use can be much lower grade because the engines are so big. Basically they fill up with the stuff we put in lawnmowers. Actually I don't think we sell such low quality anymore (92ish?). For the last few years I never used lower than 98 and used 99 now and again. I even saw a sign for 100 in Cyprus the other day (never heard of that before though). Heh, I remember a year or two ago when 98 was about £1.09 ($2.18) per *litre* for a while (BP). Think it settled at about 95p ($1.90) where I was after that. And you have to love the government's stance of "Well it is better because we don't feel sharp increases so badly because tax is like a buffer". Whatever...

Quote: "The amusing part, the charger outperformed the lotus quite well"
Depends what you mean. For starters the Elise and Exige don't have great top speeds (think the Elise tops at around 130mph, Elises would be close 0-60, but I would start pulling away upto and past 100). Plus if it's a reality show then you dunno who is driving what. They could also have modified the cars massively. I mean look into the car forums and you have all these fanboys saying things like "The Supra *is* faster than a Ferrari, just look at this video". Yeah, if you upgrade it a fair whack. Check out Top gear videos for an old crappy Jaguar beating all these supercars in a drag race (it was fitted with Nitro). I can't believe though that a stock Charger would be anywhere near the handling of a stock Elise or a stock Exige. I mean the things are go-karts. If my car stuck to the ground like mustard then these things are like Scaletrix. Annoyingly they are exactly like go-karts, so if you push them too much on corners and aren't that good a driver then you are dead. Which is where the rally cars rule.

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Same here Daz. I'm about 20mpg I think, although I've not had my car mapped since import, so I could lean it out a bit and get that higher. I just filled up this morning for £45 from near empty, and I'll get 250 miles out of that. Not an economic car, but economic when you consider the power and the fact I'm routinely beasting it.

As for the charger/elise race, I can't believe there could've been that many corners on the circuit. Would be cool if someone could find a YouTube vid?

As for my motor and corners, I was on the way home on sunday and using a bit of lead foot. When I came off a roundabout and joined the A34, I shot past a motorbike (prolly 500-600cc sorta size). He wasn't happy, so decides to follow me when I exited the A34 just after. Got to a roundabout I know well, and nailed it .. glanced in my rear view mirror and the biker is behind me, knees touching the floor. Down into second on the roundabout exit and over the motorway flyover almost redlining it ... glanced in my rear view mirror and the bike is nowhere to be seen. Get to the next roundabout and have to wait for traffic and he sheepishly creaps up behind me before admitting defeat, going right round the roundabout and going back onto the motorway.

Satisfaction guaranteed.


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Posted: 8th May 2007 12:31
Quote: "As for the charger/elise race, I can't believe there could've been that many corners on the circuit"
I can well understand the charger beating the elise on a lap time. No probs, esp. modified. Look at the Stig in Top Gear. Basically he can take any car to it's limits. Ok, so most drivers would have crashed, and it is difficult to tell how easy one car is to drive compared to another unless you drive them yourself. But you just have to compare the look of the two cars to know which one handles better. I remember everyone complaining how bad one decent car was and it twitched like no tomorrow on the track, but the Stig got a good laptime out of it because the damn thing was all power.

Yeah, I got about the same figures for fuel. I used to drive about 40 mins to work each way every day. I would go from full to under a quarter in 5 days. For a laugh (and the M4 kills your enjoyment after half a decade) once I took it easy for a week (ish; but basically hardly any major acceleration if I could help it). I got an extra day out of the tank basically. Nice.

Bikes are alright, and yes they are bloody quick for the price, but never appealed. Just don't like the looks. Plus corners are not so great for them. That and the whole massively larger percentage of people dying bit...

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Done the same mate. Spent most of a week driving under 3000rpm so I keep it out of the turbos. Hitting 4000rpm max, so the first turbo just starts to wind up a bit. I could probably get 250 miles out of 3/4 of a tank that way, where normally I would get 200 at that point. But, I mean, what is the point if you never put your foot down? So I save probably £10/week if I drive like a granny, but I have fiestas and mondeos on my backside. Totally defeats the point.

So now, I just drive however I like, and I just pay the fuel costs. It gets a nice gentle warm up. I live on a straight road 1 mile long, 30 mph. I cruise down that, then get to a 60mph road, which I keep it under 3k rpm on, for about another mile. By that time, engine temp is up and almost spot on. Then I get to the A34 and can open her up. Perfect for commuting as there is no temptation to go fast before she's nicely lubed. Then as I approach work, I hit a 60mph road always packed with traffic and spend a good 5 mins cruising at 2k rpm in 5th, letting her cool down. Then I just need 30 secs to 1 minute idling once I pull up. All good. But in between, it's check the rear view mirror, then foot down.

Fuel economy is all well and good, but you don't buy a sports/super car for fuel economy, and after a months of being stingy, I've learned that lesson. Now I'm a born again boy racer ... but I'm the rare breed that doesn't harass other drivers and leaves safe breaking distances.


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Posted: 8th May 2007 13:43
Quote: "So I save probably £10/week if I drive like a granny, but I have fiestas and mondeos on my backside. Totally defeats the point."
Same here. It was good to see just how much I was blowing by booting it all the time I used to go up that back road between Bracknell and Maidenhead if you know it. Loads of laughs. Then straight up onto the M4 on that cool short dual carraigeway between the two roundabouts. Undertaking at 120mph on the corner in the rain really is fun on that stretch of road

Quote: "Now I'm a born again boy racer"
Not really. That is classed for people in shopping trolleys, over the top body kits and the Halford's spoiler. ie. the stock version of their 1.2 litre shed would be faster.

Quote: "leaves safe breaking distances"
Yeah, always good. I remember going down one of those kill-you slip roads (Berkshire designs them to kill you instead of the proper usage which is to get up to speed to get on the motorway - Bracknell is a case in point with a one lane slip road leading onto another one lane slip road with a blind corner just before you join...) near Slough with a friend of mine in another car right behind me. We were doing, I dunno, about 110mph coming off the corner, when 3 stupid cars on the joining road just stays where they are. Right in our way. With cars in front of us and to the left. Ah. No road left. Oh dear. Normally we would have threaded through the gaps, but there was none. Emergency stops at over a ton really get your blood going. We were doing about 40mph before we could join and overtake everyone. Luckily Scoobie brakes are brilliant, as were my mates, otherwise we may have been in a whole lot of trouble. Didn't do that again...

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I hate it when peeps don't let you in on the motorway. It's a totally different kettle of fish compared with exiting a T-junction etc. Fair enough, if you want to be a bastard and never let anyone out of any junctions on back/city roads, that's fine ... but when people don't give you space to join the motorway, it's an accident waiting to happen.

As for brakes, mine aren't as good as I thought they'd be. I think that could be because the car weighs absolutely loads. Bloody heavy. 4 sets of big ass brembos and you need to stamp down pretty hard when you need to stop quickly. The good thing about that is, I know I can smack into most other cars and survive the impact, while crushing the other car to pieces.

Having said that, the Skyline does have the Hicas system, so you can be doing 80mph, stamp on the brakes and swerve around things, and it'll brake all the wheels independently to keep you going in a straight line. Was ahead of its time, although now that stuff is fairly standard in more expensive cars. The good thing about Hicas is it works in tandom with the brake pedal, so it doesn't attempt to keep you in a straight line when you're just using throttle. Although, I have to be honest, I've not had the back out yet. The traction is so good that I think I'd have to be really pushing it to step it out and I dont have any roundabouts wide enough near me to risk it.


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Quote: "It's a totally different kettle of fish compared with exiting a T-junction etc"
Hah, you would love it here then. No-one gives you the time of day full stop. Paris totally scared me for nutter driving and Dubai is full of people waiting to die in traffic accidents, but Cyprus seems to be full of people wanting to crash at slow speeds (not including all the nutters driving at around 100mph through the middle of town at night (I'm talking normal road with loads of sidestreets)...). Honest to God. When you cross the road you make sure, even on pedestrian crossings, that all cars are completely stopped. Don't bother with the red light as this only seems to stop people if you actually are standing on the road at the time. And even then it's not a certaintly. I basically go on age of car and person. The older either is then don't take a chance. And if its a bird then just wait. Always on the phone and not looking where they are going. Frightening. Once you step off the road then they all bomb through the red light. Niiiiccccceeeeee..... And rubber must be costly here as the amount of screetches I hear every day (I live and work 4 stories above a fairly main road). I've heard the tar used on the roads in hot countries (so it doesn't melt) causes more squeeking (apparently the reason why american films have lots of squeeling even though they don't look like they are going fast where we don't even get that at 70mph) at low speeds, but this is mad here. Amount of accidents right outside my door.... So now I am careful driver no.1. Plenty of distance, top down, arm out, Def Leppard on the stereo (yeah I know....), shades on (32 degrees C on the weekend), and take it easy. Yeah....

Wide roundabouts? Heh, the first couple of days I had my company car (used to have a Puma) I raced my boss who had a decent Saab. We got to the twin bridges roundabout (quite wide) in Bracknell and I out broke him. Only way to beat the Saab basically. Unfortuantly I wasn't used to the Puma then (used to have a 405Sri which I knew exactly how to get around the roadabout at high speeds) and almost lost it. Managed to correct at the last minute but cocked things up and the car went over the curb. At about 60 miles an hour Missed this big sign by less than a foot on one side, and a tree by about the same distance on the other. Well bad. All amazingly looked well until I noticed I had stuffed the left wheel. Almost cried. Kept driving into work with the spare wheel on the other side until I sorted it. Work totally covered all expenses, but not that time. Kept it all to myself... Heh, a few months later it turned out the axis or somesuch was buckled. Ahem. The amount of hassle I got from mates about black cats spotted in the forest.... sigh...

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Not good mate! I don't routinely race people, so not really got any stories to tell, and when I have raced people, it's always been uneventful. This is obviously a good thing. Although a guy I know used to be allowed to drive his dads TVR (accident waiting to happen), and overtook one of my other mates on a back road. Left rear wheel hit the grass, lots control, head on collision with another car. Killed the woman outright, and then spent 2 years in jail.

There's sensible fast driving, and then there's dangerous fast driving. Overtaking recklessly in a high powered sports car with no traction control when you're trying to impress a girl in the passenger seat (who incidentally had to be cut from the wreckage) is just bloody irresponsible. I think he deserved his jail time, although many of my friends disagree since it was an accident. Well, there's an accident when you were totally not to blame, and there's an accident when you should've known better. I think it was the latter.


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Quote: "Killed the woman outright, and then spent 2 years in jail."
Yeah, normal thing when you are a bit of an idiot. Which I definitely was in a car I didn't know how to drive.

Yeah, the overtaking thing is nuts. I've seen people trying to overtake 3 or 4 cars on backroads with blind bends and corners coming up when they are driving a 1.6 Diesel Astra. Is like watching an accident starting to happen in slow motion (they are not fast). Like eh? I mean I wouldn't even consider overtaking in those situations.

Heh, I remember once when I was crawling back home on a nice summers day behind a *load* of cars and tractors etc. I had long since learnt to not bother overtaking on that road, esp. in the evening as you always would zoom by (perhaps taking a chance you shouldn't, even if it was brought on by mindless rage at some idiot driving a Porsche at 15mph) then stop 10 seconds up the road because of a traffic jam or such. ie. no advantage whatsoever. But this Skoda V6 effort (ie. faster than Mr Salesman but laughingly slow when you got down to it) came zooming up from behind, overtook me and about 3 others *on a blind corner*, then proceeded to overtake about 20 cars , tractors and horses at breakneck speed on more blind corners and bends. Never seen anything like it. Must have been a crim or somesuch. At one point he floored it past 3 cars on a blind hill (with about 10 metres in front of the car before you cannot see anything) and a car came over the hill at the same time. Thought we would see a big crash at that point as the other car must have been doing at least 50mph. Both did an emergency stop with smoke going everywhere. Amazingly Skodaboy managed to swerve in front of someone at the last possible second. Close call or what. He then proceeded to boot it past everyone on more blind bends and corners. Totally insane. And probably dead now. Which is good. Although not for whoever he ploughed into obiously.

You are right though. If you know the car and it is made for such things then zooming up a massively visible motorway with loads of space at nutty speeds is nothing. Bombing down a high street at 70mph+ in a car designed to take your gran shopping, that has been degraded by airfix model accessories, just is stupid. At the end of the day that bloke who fell asleep at the wheel and caused that train crash went to jail.

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Posted: 8th May 2007 19:54
Quote: "They're repeating the last couple of seasons on G2, atm for anyone who doesn't believe me"


I have seasons 6 through 9, which episode was it?

Quote: " Although this said, about half of that is just tax. Americans should really think about that next time they complain at the prices they pay though."

But your dollar is also worth about twice ours. (which stills comes out to a high price anyway)

How can you people afford to drive over there? I'd probably be spending $75 a week on gas!


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