Sorry your browser is not supported!

You are using an outdated browser that does not support modern web technologies, in order to use this site please update to a new browser.

Browsers supported include Chrome, FireFox, Safari, Opera, Internet Explorer 10+ or Microsoft Edge.

Geek Culture / Questions About the UK

Author
Message
Jeku
Moderator
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 4th Jul 2003
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Posted: 23rd May 2007 11:20
Let's say, just for fun, I were to be moving to the UK--- hypothetically speaking. Because I'm a huge video game, TV, and movie addict, I would (theoretically speaking), want to move my media crap from where I live (in an NTSC country) to a PAL-based area.

Here's some stupid questions about my hypothetical query, because I suck and don't know a thing about PAL. My TV is a pretty recent Sharp Aquios LCD HDTV. Anyone know if I can use it over in the UK? Does the cable TV come down in PAL format? Can I purchase NTSC games in the shops or will I have to import them from NA? If I'm forced to buy a new TV, can I use my 360 and Wii on a PAL TV, or would I have to repurchase my consoles too? That would suck, as retro gaming is a big part of my life. I would also not want to invest in a large collection of PAL games because inevitably I would eventually, theoretically, move back to NA in the future.

I already spoke with Raven about this and wanted some more input. Anyone?

indi
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 26th Aug 2002
Location: Earth, Brisbane, Australia
Posted: 23rd May 2007 11:59
Apparently there are converters for both, my external devices all switch if required.
Living in a country where we have both is no real deal.


Scart is, or was large in the UK for connections.


As long as your TV handles both you should be fine, or you get a conveter.
Its probably cheaper to sell and rebuy considering freight.


If you like rain and lots of it, never get those jeans dry you will be fine!
Grey Grey gray grey grey, so my english gf says.
In oz its always blue, heatwaves and bikini clad babes who dont really care
Im going there too very soon, I cant wait to meet a scouser if thats what they are called.
haha


[href]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAL[/href[]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTSC

http://www.merconnet.com/product_info.php?products_id=457
http://www.tvone.com/standards.shtml

Dazzag
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 26th Aug 2002
Location: Cyprus
Posted: 23rd May 2007 12:02
Quote: "I cant wait to meet a scouser"
No you don't... And don't let them anywhere near your hubcaps...

Quote: "In oz its always blue, heatwaves and bikini clad babes who dont really care"
Yep, I'm looking at the sea right now. Admittingly I am actually working now, and I would need a telescope to pick anything out, but it's there. Aaaaahhhh... I used to have a view of the car park in Slough....

Cheers

I am 99% probably lying in bed right now... so don't blame me for crappy typing
Current fave quote : "She was like a candle in the wind.... unreliable...."
Jess T
Retired Moderator
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 20th Sep 2003
Location: Over There... Kablam!
Posted: 23rd May 2007 12:04
Almost all newer TVs can handle both NTSC and PAL regardless of what they say on the box.

The only difference is generally in region encoding. So, if a movie says Pal 4 - Then only my Australian DVD player (should) read it.

Having said that, however, games are a different matter.
When purchasing games in a shop in the UK, they'll all be PAL, the only way to get around that is to mod your console (don't know about the UK and Canada, but it's perfectly legal to do it in Australia), or, as you said, import games.

Nintendo DS & Dominos :: DS Dominos
http://jt0.org
John Y
Synergy Editor Developer
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 4th Sep 2002
Location: UK
Posted: 23rd May 2007 12:33
I know most VCR's can play NTSC, but they convert it internally and output PAL.

I think if you purchased a cheap digital tv box (freeview) then I know that some of them have options for changing the output format. You would therefore be able to watch televsion.

NTSC is not used at all in the UK, therefore you have no chance of buying anything unless you import.

There is always the option to rent, I think it is relatively cheap - depends on how long you're planning on staying.

Get the new DarkBasic Professional IDE for only $19.99/~£9.85
Http://synergyide.thegamecreators.com
Http://www.digitalzenith.net
BatVink
Moderator
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 4th Apr 2003
Location: Gods own County, UK
Posted: 23rd May 2007 12:38
Quote: "I cant wait to meet a scouser if thats what they are called"

Interesting comment. We don't keep them in cages or bring them out for entertainment, you know. They're actually humans, just like the rest of us - same number of fingers and everything.

Although they do say that the reason why the River Mersey runs through the centre of Liverpool is because if it walked, it would get mugged.

Raven
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 23rd Mar 2005
Location: Hertfordshire, England
Posted: 23rd May 2007 13:36
Quote: "Interesting comment. We don't keep them in cages or bring them out for entertainment, you know."


Ironically for most Chav's this is true, only the cages are at police stations and the entertainment are the court hearings.
So never wanting to live north again, just too many of them are left unchecked and feel they own the place.

This said, NTSC just because it's not sold here doesn't mean it's not supported. In-fact now you'd be hard pushed to find something that doesn't support it. I know it's called PAL-60 here, but realistically it's only the transmission of colours that differs, exact same resolution and interleave. The real different only comes with consoles, or dvd players. As they're usually locked to a particular region rather than format.

Dazzag
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 26th Aug 2002
Location: Cyprus
Posted: 23rd May 2007 13:59
Quote: "So, if a movie says Pal 4 - Then only my Australian DVD player (should) read it"
I have some Friends DVDs in region 4 (they were a lot cheaper at the time). I was a bit concerned when I found out what region they were when I ordered online (was not an Australian site, they infact came from Jersey I believe), but was told that region 4 works fine with region 2 only DVD players. And it does.

Cheers

I am 99% probably lying in bed right now... so don't blame me for crappy typing
Current fave quote : "She was like a candle in the wind.... unreliable...."
Fallout
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 1st Sep 2002
Location: Basingstoke, England
Posted: 23rd May 2007 14:13
You'll be fine Jeku. The UK is the greatest [collection of] countries in the world. I routinely look around myself with unrestrained incomprehensible awe. It's that good.


Dazzag
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 26th Aug 2002
Location: Cyprus
Posted: 23rd May 2007 14:24
That is true. I used to live practically 5 mins from Legoland so I know what I am talking about. There was tears in my eyes when the plane lifted off to take me away. And it wasn't just from the tremendous amount of rain that was coming down that day (really was like horizontal rain. Good way to end my life in Britain).

Cheers

I am 99% probably lying in bed right now... so don't blame me for crappy typing
Current fave quote : "She was like a candle in the wind.... unreliable...."
Dazzag
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 26th Aug 2002
Location: Cyprus
Posted: 23rd May 2007 14:25
And Fallout, you are just looking through Nissan coloured windows

Cheers

I am 99% probably lying in bed right now... so don't blame me for crappy typing
Current fave quote : "She was like a candle in the wind.... unreliable...."
SpyDaniel
18
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 4th Feb 2006
Location: United Kingdom
Posted: 23rd May 2007 14:57
Quote: "I cant wait to meet a scouser"


Quote: "No you don't... And don't let them anywhere near your hubcaps..."


[Sarcasm] Urm... I don't steal hubcaps, I steal the car and leave the wheels on bricks. [Sarcasm]

But I do come from Liverpool. But I hate scousers every one else in the UK thinks of. The kind that steal things, rob banks, sell stuff from out of a larry. The one who use the slang every one knows a scouser for

----------

But Jeku, wouldn't you have those funny plugs, with only two pins on? If you do, you might not be able to use it, unless you can get an extension curd with that type of plug socket on and a UK power lead.
Dazzag
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 26th Aug 2002
Location: Cyprus
Posted: 23rd May 2007 15:52
Quote: "sell stuff from out of a larry"
I hope that is a typo

Quote: "ouldn't you have those funny plugs, with only two pins on"
Nah, just get a convertor. In Cyprus half the stuff comes with 3 pins (UK) and half come with 2 (Europe). All the buildings have 3 pin plug sockets (guess they have a lot of trade and builders from the UK) so convertors are all over the place.

Cheers

I am 99% probably lying in bed right now... so don't blame me for crappy typing
Current fave quote : "She was like a candle in the wind.... unreliable...."
Jeku
Moderator
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 4th Jul 2003
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Posted: 23rd May 2007 19:17
Cool, thanks for the info I'll have to look up on Wikipedia the word 'scouser' as I don't have the pleasure of knowing what it is. That and 'larry'.

Dazzag
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 26th Aug 2002
Location: Cyprus
Posted: 23rd May 2007 19:48
Quote: "That and 'larry'"
Think he meant Lorry. Then again, is a bit of a major typo (a is other side from o). Ah, you know these canny scousers!

Cheers

I am 99% probably lying in bed right now... so don't blame me for crappy typing
Current fave quote : "She was like a candle in the wind.... unreliable...."
Manic
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 27th Aug 2002
Location: Completely off my face...
Posted: 23rd May 2007 19:59
you'll have to invest in some step down transformers too, otherwise you'll watch your puny 110V devices fry in the glory of our 240V mains electricity.

I don't have a sig, live with it.
Seppuku Arts
Moderator
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 18th Aug 2004
Location: Cambridgeshire, England
Posted: 23rd May 2007 20:49
NTSC and PAL is a pain, but you should be able to find a solution, as people do like to import from America as most things come out before they do here.

As for scousers, I suppose if you want to have fun you may want to meet one, but check if their knife is metal or rubber, some of them aren't as smart as others, so you might get lucky Generally they come out during the evening, but you can generally lure them out of little corners with mainstream repetitive music...but not Slayer that scares them away.

Yes - I am a git, but hey I'm attacking a stereotype of anti-social vandals - Although scouser refers to a person from Liverpool generally, but it's just another word for chav now anyway.

Moving here might be a bit of fun for you (A culture change without having to learn a new language - 'Australia' you say? Sounds too foreign to me )- although I'd rather live in Sweden because of the raising prices here (In the last 10 years house prices have quadrupled) and as a young student I don't see myself officiailly leaving home (University don't exactly count as leaving) before 25.

Look behind you a threeheaded monkey!
_Nemesis_
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 9th Nov 2003
Location: Liverpool, UK
Posted: 23rd May 2007 22:04 Edited at: 23rd May 2007 22:04
Quote: "Im going there too very soon, I cant wait to meet a scouser if thats what they are called."


I'll have to introduce myself

[url="http://www.devhat.net"]www.devhat.net[/url] :: Devhat IRC Network.
Current Project: ASP Content Management System
NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 10th Apr 2005
Location: The Fifth Plane of Oblivion
Posted: 23rd May 2007 22:12
You'll have to get used to paying nearly twice as much for everything if you move to the UK - and speed cameras are the bane of my life. It's hard to go quick enough to not fall asleep in this country. Lots of dosy drivers, too, who have the eyesight of an early webcam and reaction times of your average sloth.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
SpyDaniel
18
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 4th Feb 2006
Location: United Kingdom
Posted: 23rd May 2007 22:25
I did mean Lorry, I don't know how I did that typo, but it happened non the less
Chris K
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 7th Oct 2003
Location: Lake Hylia
Posted: 24th May 2007 10:34
If you go to the UK you simply must visit the idyllic Medieval town of Maidstone. It makes you feel like heaven inside.

But seriously its all about the south coast. Anything north of London is "The North". It's still 1998 there.

*ducks*

-= Out here in the fields, I fight for my meals =-
PowerSoft
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 10th Oct 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Posted: 24th May 2007 12:12
Oi!

Lincolnshire is a fine place of the UK, you should see the size of the hills...

The Innuendo's, 4 Piece Indie Rock Band
http://theinnuendos.tk:::http://myspace.com/theinnuendosrock
GatorHex
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 5th Apr 2005
Location: Gunchester, UK
Posted: 24th May 2007 15:46 Edited at: 24th May 2007 16:18
It will cost you a fortune to ship your stuff over in a container and it will probably get broke anyway.

Best bet for a Canada -> UK move would be to sell everything then buy it when again when you get to the UK.

By the time you get back to Canada it will be out of date anyway

Worse than PAL the biggest worry I would have is that UK 240v power tends to blow up USA 110v stuff. I dunno what the power of Canada is.

Most UK equpment will play NTSC stuff, you can get region nobbled DVD plays and flashed consols quit easily and all the TV's here support 60hz NTSC so just bring you games over.

UK tends to be cheaper up north (where its colder) and more expensive south (where it's warmer). If you can survive the expense of living here then you probably won't want to go back, people don't carry guns and health care is pretty much free.

SpyDaniel
18
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 4th Feb 2006
Location: United Kingdom
Posted: 24th May 2007 16:19
@Chris K

1998? Don't you mean 1066? Because we northerners are still Vikings up here.

But how can you say we are in the past? is that because you think London is the only city with new buildings? Because thats just sad
GatorHex
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 5th Apr 2005
Location: Gunchester, UK
Posted: 24th May 2007 17:01 Edited at: 24th May 2007 17:16
Ooooh north / south fight!!! fight!,fight,fight!

All the best footy teams are northside

We held the commonwealth games in Manchester on a shoe-string budget, the south wasted millions on millenium domes that no-one wants and wobbly bridges. At least bridges up north are build of sturdy stuff I'm wondering if they'll stuff up the olympics? It's bound to be a money pit building it in the south

It's the snobs attitude to living in "London" that causes broom cupboards 6x8ft to be sold as £335,000 apartments. LOL the rest of the UK has a little chuckle at you all while the same money would get you a luxury detached house up north

adr
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 21st May 2003
Location: Job Centre
Posted: 24th May 2007 18:02
You can hardly blame people from the south antagonising northerners. You're kinda stoking the fire by (effectively) saying "southerners are n00bs - lol".

Anyone interested in the North/South divide should read Pies and Prejudice by Stuart Maconie.


I'm superfly TNT
Dazzag
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 26th Aug 2002
Location: Cyprus
Posted: 24th May 2007 18:13
North/ south divide? Go to Wales. No wonder they film Doctor Who there. You practically go into a time machine.

And Dudley is good too. Mainly because of the way they say the place name. Cracks me up.....

Cheers

I am 99% probably lying in bed right now... so don't blame me for crappy typing
Current fave quote : "She was like a candle in the wind.... unreliable...."
Jeku
Moderator
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 4th Jul 2003
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Posted: 24th May 2007 23:06
Well if I were to move there, hypothetically speaking, I wouldn't have to worry about costs to ship everything as that would be taken care of for me.

I doubt the health care benefits are for foreigners, but I'd be hooked up with sweet dental and medical coverage regardless.

Seppuku Arts
Moderator
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 18th Aug 2004
Location: Cambridgeshire, England
Posted: 24th May 2007 23:14
I dunno, healthcare might be free for you too, I mean you'll have to pay taxes won't you Seems only fair. I mean living here can't be all bad, I mean our town is being invaded by Polish people. (And unfortunately people are being incredibly racist towards them)

Also please note, you may not want to raise your kids here, on the list of the richest countries in the world, England comes last in child well-being, plus comprehensive schools are push overs now, so the majority are chavs there (I mean I got a lunch time dention for saying 'crap' in the same school that 6 years later has year 7s effing and blinding at the teacher and getting away with it - Something none of us would ever have dreamed of.)

Look behind you a threeheaded monkey!
Benjamin
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 24th Nov 2002
Location: France
Posted: 24th May 2007 23:36
Quote: "I doubt the health care benefits are for foreigners, but I'd be hooked up with sweet dental and medical coverage regardless."

If you can afford it, it's best to go private, especially with how the NHS is at the moment. I also hear there's a shortage of dentists.

Quote: "so the majority are chavs there (I mean I got a lunch time dention for saying 'crap' in the same school that 6 years later has year 7s effing and blinding at the teacher and getting away with it"

It's a shame discipline isn't a very well understood concept in schools over there... society is really going down hill isn't it?

Tempest (DBP/DBCe)
Multisync V1 (DBP/DBCe)
Seppuku Arts
Moderator
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 18th Aug 2004
Location: Cambridgeshire, England
Posted: 25th May 2007 00:18
Quote: "I also hear there's a shortage of dentists."


Here here! The nearest availible NHS dentist we have to go to is 40 minutes away...As we're not willing to pay private.

Quote: "It's a shame discipline isn't a very well understood concept in schools over there... society is really going down hill isn't it?"


I felt that, it's a common topic in discussion we have in RE, the teacher talks about how annoying some of the kids are and how much of a pain they can be - so we're not imagining it as we're maturing and looking back at immaturity. (As my parents claim)The teacher being a DJ showed us a few tracks he made, when I enquired about the name of one track he refused to show it as it is about chavs and contains waaaay too much swearing, so I take it teachers can't stand them either,

But too be fair, it isn't just chav culture, some of those in our town that are anti-social are the emos and scene kids...God I can imagine Parliament in a century or too, Prime Minister walking in yelling "Wassup bra!" and the leader of the conservative party standing up, running towards him, shoving him into the chairs saying "you bin sayin' stuff 'bout mah fam'ly?"...Hopefully it's a phase, you know someone one of these days will learn an important lesson from Battle Royale...Shoot the last survivor.

Look behind you a threeheaded monkey!
Jeff Miller
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 22nd Mar 2005
Location: New Jersey, USA
Posted: 25th May 2007 01:37
Come to the US instead. We have 110v. We like English-speaking Canadians. But you might want to wait until the gasoline prices drop a bit.
GatorHex
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 5th Apr 2005
Location: Gunchester, UK
Posted: 25th May 2007 02:57
Ha! Wait until your gas/petrol is $2/£1 a liter then you can moan

Jeku
Moderator
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 4th Jul 2003
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Posted: 25th May 2007 07:01
Quote: "As we're not willing to pay private."


At least you guys have the option of going private. We have free health care, but incredibly long surgery wait times and the stupid socialists won't legalize private hospitals and health clinics for those who can afford it

Argh.

Quote: "Come to the US instead. We have 110v. We like English-speaking Canadians. But you might want to wait until the gasoline prices drop a bit."


Well it's a toss-up between west LA (Hollywood area) and the UK. Of course, this is all hearsay and nothing may come of this whole thing and I'll stay here. But it's fun to dream.

Seppuku Arts
Moderator
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 18th Aug 2004
Location: Cambridgeshire, England
Posted: 25th May 2007 10:22
Funny thing is my dreams are of moving to Sweden, Canada or Japan, so I guess if we did a bit of houseswapping we'd both get what we want...Although I doubt you'd want to cater for all our cats or put up with out neighbours.

Quote: "but incredibly long surgery wait times and the stupid socialists won't legalize private hospitals and health clinics for those who can afford it"


I think that's silly - Although I see the advantages, I mean if too many doctors/dentists go private (for more money) then people won't be able to get a good free healthcare service, much like out dentists at the moment in England, it can be quite a pain to get an availible NHS dentist. (hence mine is 40 minutes away)

Look behind you a threeheaded monkey!
indi
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 26th Aug 2002
Location: Earth, Brisbane, Australia
Posted: 25th May 2007 15:23
you should consider australia seppy.
you will have a lot of fun.

Seppuku Arts
Moderator
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 18th Aug 2004
Location: Cambridgeshire, England
Posted: 25th May 2007 15:49
Nice thought, I always wanted to get in a fight with Skippy My sister is thinking of moving to Australia anyway, but I'll see what happens after uni anyway.

Look behind you a threeheaded monkey!
indi
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 26th Aug 2002
Location: Earth, Brisbane, Australia
Posted: 25th May 2007 16:55
I have a room spare for anyone that seriously gets lost down under.
As long as you can stand vegemite on toast for breakfast, no seriously you can have coco - pops or whatever.

Pricey
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 22nd Feb 2003
Location:
Posted: 25th May 2007 16:59
Quote: "I cant wait to meet a scouser"


Quote: "No you don't... And don't let them anywhere near your hubcaps"


ahem.. i have never touched a hubcap in my life

indi
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 26th Aug 2002
Location: Earth, Brisbane, Australia
Posted: 25th May 2007 17:01
scouser vs worlds deadliest snake, no contest.

Chris K
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 7th Oct 2003
Location: Lake Hylia
Posted: 26th May 2007 10:30
Quote: "All the best footy teams are northside"


*blinks*
*dies*
*blinks*
*pukes*
*dies*

-= Out here in the fields, I fight for my meals =-
MikeB
17
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 5th Apr 2007
Location: My Computer, Shropshire, England
Posted: 26th May 2007 14:45
Quote: "Quote: "All the best footy teams are northside"

*blinks*
*dies*
*blinks*
*pukes*
*dies*"

*lols*

SpyDaniel
18
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 4th Feb 2006
Location: United Kingdom
Posted: 26th May 2007 16:18
You can see a dentist for free up to the age of 18, then you have to pay. Well, at least thats what I have to do now, if I need to see one.
Seppuku Arts
Moderator
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 18th Aug 2004
Location: Cambridgeshire, England
Posted: 26th May 2007 16:43
Indeed, I have my last ever free dentist appointment 5 months ago...Uh-oh looks like I've got my next check up soon...hmmm...rob a bank anyone (May as well, even with the NHS they cost too much)

Look behind you a threeheaded monkey!
John Y
Synergy Editor Developer
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 4th Sep 2002
Location: UK
Posted: 26th May 2007 19:15
I pay £18 for a check-up, which is much better than trying to find an NHS dentist and then wait for an appointment.

Get the new DarkBasic Professional IDE for only $19.99/~£9.85
Http://synergyide.thegamecreators.com
Http://www.digitalzenith.net
Seppuku Arts
Moderator
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 18th Aug 2004
Location: Cambridgeshire, England
Posted: 26th May 2007 20:56
But fillings cost more (£40 isn't it?) for me that's a lot and I have a feeling that's what they're going to do to me next month (One on each side most likely, meaning two visits, totalling at £80 if I got the prices right)

Look behind you a threeheaded monkey!
John Y
Synergy Editor Developer
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 4th Sep 2002
Location: UK
Posted: 26th May 2007 22:48
I haven't had a filling in years, but then again I look after my teeth. Probably the reason why I don't mind paying for the dentist, as I never end up paying them much

Get the new DarkBasic Professional IDE for only $19.99/~£9.85
Http://synergyide.thegamecreators.com
Http://www.digitalzenith.net
Sonic 91 Software
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 19th Mar 2005
Location: In a Cryptic Crossworld!
Posted: 28th May 2007 22:33
Quote: "retro gaming is a big part of my life"


same here!

Quote: "I haven't had a filling in years"


I had a white filling recently, due to years of binge "sweeting".

BTW, thinking of moving to another country? So am I! I'm so sick of Britain, what with the government etc. that I am going on holiday to Cape Verde next year, with the intention of looking for properties and experiencing Cape Verdean life first-hand. I want to buy there, as from what I have pieced together from the internet/travel brochures/google earth, it looks very nice. It's a quiet place to live and I have always wanted to live the quiet life.

Oraculaca
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 6th Jan 2003
Location: Scotland
Posted: 30th May 2007 02:43
Glasgow and Liverpool are the only two places Ive had my van broken into in 12 years of working around the u.k. At least in Glasgow they made damaging the van worthwhile by nicking my drill. In Liverpool they did the lock in with a screwdriver and pinched my mates toolbag, leaving my laptop,oscilloscope,toolbox various drills a pda etc behind. They then dumped his bag in a hedge about 100m away, getting away with a grand total of nowt and leaving me with a stoved in door.


Hobgoblin Lord
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 29th Oct 2005
Location: Fall River, MA USA
Posted: 30th May 2007 15:52
Hey if it's still 1998 north of London I need to take a trip over there, there are a few stocks I want to buy.

Login to post a reply

Server time is: 2024-11-18 19:18:10
Your offset time is: 2024-11-18 19:18:10