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Raven
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Posted: 30th May 2007 17:08
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Quote: "I could easily slap you for 120 days, however david R has taught me that slapping, even banning affects everyone no matter how deluded and irrational they are."


Tell you what, you slap me with that newbie thing. At the same time why don't you give yourself one for what you've said.

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Dazzag
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Posted: 30th May 2007 17:18 Edited at: 30th May 2007 17:19
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Quote: "gnome is about 5* faster than windows on my pc!"
I think if you stop making massive generalisations then people wouldn't have a go at you. I agree that Linux can be pretty impressive but back it up a little. Otherwise I will say things like Linux is rubbish compared to when I used to use X-Windows on Unix and Solaris based machines, and they were at least *10* times faster for the hardware of the day.

Oh and I did make Ubuntu 7.0.4 (think thats the newest one) go wrong once. Was mucking around trying to get my XFi soundcard to work when the whole thing totally froze up. Had to manually fully reset the PC (keep the reset switch held down for 5 seconds). Thats on a pretty recent dual core AMD effort too, unlike the 386 you are obviously using for your 11 minute boot up time

Personally I can't do my job without using Unix (IBM and DG mainly) and Windows. Unix because our system runs on it, and Windows because customers will not be removed from their MS environments no matter how hard you try. And one or two applications makes things nicer (which is also the case in Linux).

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Benjamin
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Posted: 30th May 2007 17:22
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Quote: "gnome is about 5* faster than windows on my pc!"

And about five times less stable on my PC. Seriously, I've had it crash quite a few times on me.

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Kentaree
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Posted: 30th May 2007 17:25
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That's why you use KDE instead...

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indi
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Posted: 30th May 2007 17:26
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Drop me a line and make a true friend, otherwise stay a coward.

There are numerous people here who I help daily while im doing my own work without asking for compensation, I dont need ego feeds or money to help people with coder problems that I can help with, Rich and others help me with my problems its a full circle.

I dont need them to stand up now, they in turn know who ive helped daily without having to say anything.

Your talking complete garbage now accusing me of calling blizzard. period, especially accusing me of pretending to be your father.

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Benjamin
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Posted: 30th May 2007 17:27 Edited at: 30th May 2007 17:28
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Quote: "That's why you use KDE instead..."

Actually yes, that is personally why I do. Although I kind of prefer the look of GNOME for some reason.

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Posted: 30th May 2007 17:27
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Must... resist... cliche...

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indi
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Posted: 30th May 2007 17:32
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ken, love your style
luke...
omg this boy is trouble with a capital OMG.

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Dazzag
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Posted: 30th May 2007 17:34
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Dammit, Indi got in there before me. I was even going to put three decimal points after Luke too...

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MikeB
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Posted: 30th May 2007 17:34
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Quote: " dx is junk becose its microsoft"


Wow..... I know this was a while back.... but why is everyone so darn anti-microsoft...........

I mean, sure their products CAN not work, but that doesn't instantly make everything they produce crap, does it?

E.D.

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Raven, you actually used the Archimedes and the Acorn and the Amiga?
Since they were contemporaries I would have expected you to list only one.
Two at the most, explaining that you dabbled with the other.

Anyway I have been involved since the 1970's,
and I have seen the ugly side of what Microsoft did,
borging the various companies like Commodore and Apple.

Monopolies stifle innovation, they always have, they always will.

I only recently learned of Bill Gates' background and suddenly the Microsoft global domination made perfect sense.
I am part of the resistance to that particular evil.
If WINE is the best that we can do, WINE it is.

Give me:

liberty over death ~

an open source OS over activation, royalty payments, DRM snitching and system lockouts.

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hessiess
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Posted: 30th May 2007 17:44 Edited at: 30th May 2007 17:48
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Quote: "but that doesn't instantly make everything they produce crap, does it?"


if you are like me, it dus!

the only times gnome has crashed it was completly my falt, so that dosent count. yes i am using windows at the moment, but only becose i havent got the interet working in ubuntu yet

there are tuns of people who say windows is the best os' but have never ued anything else!

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I think if you stop making massive generalisations then people wouldn't have a go at you"


i dont rilly care what outher people think of me, im uset to being grumped at.

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Benjamin
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Posted: 30th May 2007 17:47
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Quote: "if you are like me, it dus!"

Ignorant?

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Steve J
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Posted: 30th May 2007 17:56
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Which is why Microsoft is not a true Monopoly. The market has innovated a great deal in case you haven't noticed.

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Oraculaca
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Posted: 30th May 2007 17:57 Edited at: 30th May 2007 17:58
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Quote: "my pc takes 11 munites to boot, it takes slightly longer every time its booted. and the internet connection dies when its left idle
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Ouch too much porn methinks. Never really understood the fierce defending of OS's or any material goods for that matter. If somebody chooses one over the other then they obviously see the merits of it and vice versa. Personally I've never had problems with windows that have lead to it slowing,crashing or restarting that haven't been attributed to hardware problems. But I have also never had problems with any versions of Linux that I've tried.

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Posted: 30th May 2007 18:00 Edited at: 30th May 2007 18:05
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Quote: "the only times gnome has crashed it was completly my falt, so that dosent count."


Aside from hardware and driver issues - you could say very much the same about my experiences with Windows. It's never spontaneously crashed for any other than those two reasons for about 3 or so years (excluding the Vista beta).

Why? I don't put crap on my PC. I know exactly what I download and install.

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Had I not just put a new HDD and NIC in my Windows 2003 Server, it would have had OVER A YEAR uptime. It's hardly cutting edge technology either, an old celeron, 192mb of RAM - doesn't even have any USB ports. Now, someone tell me that a Windows machine needs restarting every other day.

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Kevin Picone
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Posted: 30th May 2007 18:04
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I'd focus my efforts there make it my future and make dying Windows the secondary OS.
Kevin, has Underware Design seriously considered if they would be succesful with a Linux release?
I'd buy it as soon as it was available. "


We've considered multi platform before, it's theoretically possible with PBFX - But Linux is not necessarily the market I'm immediately interested in.


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Surely it's a more financial thing rather than time/effort thing? I mean it's like that comment a couple of weeks ago about if DBP went to Linux it would make TGC have more money than they would know what to do with Gotta love that one.

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Posted: 30th May 2007 18:11 Edited at: 30th May 2007 18:15
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Fine Indi, you've been added to my msn.
But I'd suggest you re-read my posts, not accused you of phoning up and pretending to be my father; however I find it ridiculous how much you cling to the past.

I mean seriously, why the hell even bring any of this up in the first place? Also you should know full well that your comments are completely against the AUP.
If there was some way you could prove that I was never at Blizzard, then fine .. but without fabricating such evidence you'll find it impossible to do that. So your comments are totally unfounded past your own personal beliefs.

I find them extremely insulting and totally unrelated to this entire thread.

Quote: "Raven, you actually used the Archimedes and the Acorn and the Amiga?
Since they were contemporaries I would have expected you to list only one.
Two at the most, explaining that you dabbled with the other."


I could run off a list of all the computers I've owned (non-IBM Compatible), had quite a few over the years. Friends have also had those which my family has owned personally.

although I can't say I've used computers since the 70s (given I'm not that old ) my first computer was an Acorn Electron. Always tried to familiarise myself with as much technology as possible, have a very insatiable interest concerning technology.

As far as Gates, goes.. alright so DOS and Windows have been born from very shady backgrounds; but that is more business world than anything else. Having a good idea, and marketing it are two very different things. Unfortunately business ethics are a necessary evil to deal with given we live in a capitalist society.

I'd love to be able to program or create art freely without worrying about making rent, if I could then could be more free with what projects I choose to work on and continue in my freetime. Unfortunately a good idea doesn't pay the bills.

If Activation, DRM and TCPA are the only way to make sure people don't steal software then I'm all for it.

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Quote: "Surely it's a more financial thing rather than time/effort thing? I mean it's like that comment a couple of weeks ago about if DBP went to Linux it would make TGC have more money than they would know what to do with Gotta love that one"


Hehe, gotta be. The Linux community isn't exactly good at parting with money, part of what makes it so damn bad for developers.

MacOSX though would be a good market to break, they're starting to get some more steam now. Plus with Microsoft now starting to back them up with their technology, really makes it a good time to start helping with their game community.

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Posted: 30th May 2007 18:18 Edited at: 30th May 2007 18:20
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Although I'm 100% for "exposing lies" or whatever (whether Raven is telling the truth or not I don't know/don't care), I have to applaud you for that nice little stab there.

I'm not going to go "insane" about this; clearly what I said previously was entirely correct, and you have simply proved me right. And don't even think about playing the whole "personal" card again, because you couldn't of made that statement there more personal if you had tried.

Why the heck did I bother apologizing to you...


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Posted: 30th May 2007 18:41
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there are tuns of people who say windows is the best os' but have never ued anything else!"


And there are plenty that have, I wouldn't say Windows is the best, but I prefer it to Linux and with my current situation it's more convenient than getting a Mac...

All I must say is, there Mac vs PC vs Linux debates are getting old and pathetic, doesn't anyone get it? People use the system of their choice, I've used all 3, I've faced the worst of Windows, I've faces Linux and I've faced Mac, seen all of their advantages and limitations and I can tell you with confidence all 3 are decent operating systems, where one fails, another picks them up. Now I say stop with these freaking debates, no OS is the best! Statistics, your personal preference have nothing to do with it...So what Windows is unstable at times and is the most prone to viruses, care for your PC and get a freaking anti virus, firewall and antispyware, I've found I've only got problems when lacking in one of those 3, I'm using Windows Live OneCare as security and it does the job perfectly and doesn't clutter, get in the way or even eat ram. (Except on our 128mb ram XP laptop)

Linux is pretty good as it's free, stable and durable, it is a loved for server technology, but then it comes to articulation of its provided applications, it doesn't have the vast variety of programs to chose from as Windows, okay you have Wine, but is that 100% compatible with all Windows apps? And is it an ideal for all applications? Hardware can some times be an issue with Linux, like driver installation, if you're not computer bright, is Linux then the best OS? No because the person will go nuts trying to figure out what each bit means.

MacOS is pretty much idiot proof, fairly stable and has great security it is ram friendly and is much prefered by Artists and musicians, because it has such an articulate interface that makes things easy for them. But like Linux is hasn't got as many programs to run and you don't get that variety if lets say 'I want a game making application'. Also, there is no Direct X for Linux or Mac, you may say Direct X is crap, then please make me a program directly from C++ and Open GL instead of Direct X, much harder isn't it. I mean if Open GL was easier, I'm sure products like Dark Basic would be availible for mac. Okay people have made engines for Open GL that makes it easier, but you still aren't spoilt for choice. Also Macs are more expensive than the other choices.

So they're all good and bad...so why one earth debate that one is crap and other is amazing, I mean it's pretty stupid, I mean if one was crap, then people wouldn't use it. So essentially by arguing over it, you're wasting time and being dumb...

If I was presented with £1000, I'd go straight for a Mac, I probably could get a higher spec PC. But Linux and Windows fall below Mac OS for what I wanna do with it. But if I had the choice now, I'd still use Windows. Linux is pretty good, but I get along with Windows now, so I don't see the point.

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Posted: 30th May 2007 18:45
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Quote: "say Direct X is crap, then please make me a program directly from C++ and Open GL instead of Direct X, much harder isn't it. I mean if Open GL was easier"


I must say that, well, personally, I found the blunt C approach for GL easier to get to grips with than the COM stuff that DX uses - but of course, GL is not the "complete" solution in the way that DX is - which may or may not be a good thing


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Fair enough, of course 'ease' is generally a personal perspective, I find Blender difficult, others find it easy, some people find it difficult to understand philosophy, I find it easy.

I found DX easier to program with, the COM thing was a bit awkward, but if you do that for one set of code and make it a template, then it isn't so much of a pain. Open GL basically threw me, I knew what some stuff meant, but using it was a bit hard. So I'm sticking to prebuilt engines anyway - DX and Open GL are too time consuming for me.

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David R
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Amen to that - my project is going to take too long anyway, even using a pre-built engine


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There we agree.
Gotta love that DarkBASIC!

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Posted: 31st May 2007 02:38
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I use DirectX daily, and never used COM. Just no need unless you're trying to code on a COM Language like VB6. In-fact most of those aspects are totally deprecated for Managed interfaces.
Not that I use them either.

OpenGL is much easier to learn the basics of, because it is traditional 3D programming in a procedural mannor. You can see what is doing what and when. For me this is the biggest problem with using it. I know it's this way to be compatible with Obj-C but the only people who still use that are either on Linux or developing for the GameCube. (both communities are quite small and both support C++ just fine)

So for me Direct3D is a much better 3D system. It is not only far quicker rendering performance (particularly using Shaders), but the actual API is much easier to work with. Sure it takes a little while to learn how to set-up a scene, and what does what.. but once you have that the rest is simple. So the learning curve between Basic and Advanced tasks is very very small, unlike OpenGL where the more complex features you want to use the more complex it becomes.

Depends on your own personal development style I guess, but I've always disliked procedural coding. Even in DBP, I generally have interlinking UDTs and functions that rely heavily on each other. I'm far more of an Object-Orientated Programmer. So Direct3D fits that like a glove.

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Or, dual partition your hard drive and run Linux and Windows.

I've tried Ubuntu, and I think it's great. Runs twice as fast as Windows for me, and it isn't constantly giving me craploads of problems like XP is. I'm rather fond of it.

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Yes, that's what I'm doing during my transition.
My default is still XP.
The only thing from Microsoft that I have downloaded and installed on my new XP desktop are Media Player 11 and Internet Explorer 7 both which come through WIndows update.
I also put the old MS Win95 desktop games (BLAKJAK, PIPE, TETRIS, RODENT, SKI, etc) on my hard drive.
No other Microsoft bloatware is on my system, and it is stable and responsive.

Sometimes I boot Puppy Linux from my USB flash stick, and sometimes I boot to Ubuntu, but still mostly I boot to XP.
Right now Linux sucks for dialup unless you have an external serial modem, and I'm not buying one ($50) just to get online, when Windows works fine.
When I go broadband then that'll change and I'll probably have to default to Linux.

It will be a while before I completely replace Windows.
But I have started.
I have at least a dozen applications that I'll have to track down equivalents and that'll take time.

The most important of course is DarkBASIC.

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You could always get PureBASIC, the syntax isn't as nice as DarkBASIC imo and why I don't use it; but there is a native Linux version that has a fairly decent 3D Engine (Ogre3D), not sure if it's *as* current as the Windows version (doubt it) but then again you do have complete access to OpenGL 1.4 natively.

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I had forgot about them.
I remember they we one of the few to support the Amiga.
Thanks for the tip.

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Yup, and if you buy a license for one you can download all versions. It's a shame the Amiga version is so far behind feature-wise, but still love using it on my Amiga One from time to time.

Just wish they hadn't used Linux for the base kernel in OS4, drops performance for some eyecandy. 'spose the plus side is being able to use the most current graphics cards on it though.

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Quote: "No other Microsoft bloatware is on my system, and it is stable and responsive."
Yes, Windows works okay if you have very little of those big programs installed. Now see, I have Norton 2007 installed, which would be the most annoying of them. Slows down my logon to a crawl. Regardless, it does a goob job as an antivirus/firewall. And I can use Ubuntu too, so I just keep it.

Also heartbone, you can go to WineHQ to get a list of Windows apps that'll run on Linux using WINE. (Though DB doesn't work for me that way - pretty Windows dependent, as I understand)

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Dazzag,

Quote: " Surely it's a more financial thing rather than time/effort thing?"


Yep, it's too much work for the potential return.


Quote: " I mean it's like that comment a couple of weeks ago about if DBP went to Linux it would make TGC have more money than they would know what to do with Gotta love that one. "


- Gotta love their optimism!


Raven,

Quote: " MacOSX though would be a good market to break, they're starting to get some more steam now. Plus with Microsoft now starting to back them up with their technology, really makes it a good time to start helping with their game community. "


It's on the cards. The most probable short term outcome is being able to export from the Windows Environment runtimes for alternative environments. A lot less work, but much more attractive for PC developers wanting to cash in on the markets outside of Windows.


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true, I've suggested to TGC in the past about making a version of DBP available for the Xbox 360. It is extremely simple to port across code from Windows as almost everything is interchangable, atleast conserning DirectX. There's a bit more work involved with system commands, and most would be unavailable (for security reasons) .. but if XNA proves anything, there's a market and a BIG one there.

xboxtlsm@microsoft.com - if you want to being the process to register as a middleware developer.

I can also provide you (but not publically) with my xbox account manager's e-mail if you want a more direct route.

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Damn, don't go saying that. That would make me want to get a 360. Keep trying to hold of buying next gen after I bought the majority of old gen practically on the day of release.... I've been pretty good so far and only bought a DS about 3 months ago....

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i'd say those who don't have a 360 certainly miss out.
not because of games like Gears of War, while being awesome..
if you're anything like me you'll find yourself orientating on to live arcade constantly.

With games like Worms, Uno, Street Fighter 2, and Doom over Live it's just too damn hard to resist.
What's worse is once you start playing games for "Achievements" you suddenly really miss them not being there playing the same games on Windows.

It's like I find it extremely hard to play on my PS3 because there's no Dual Shock anymore. Just feels like you've lost a gaming thumb and gained the ability to stand on one leg with SIXAXIS.

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Quote: "i'd say those who don't have a 360 certainly miss out"
Argle! Stop it stop it stop it.... Luckily Mario Kart DS is like crack to me, so I can resist.... Luke....

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Castlevania Co-op... Bomberman 360.. must resist mid-afternoon playfest!!

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Posted: 31st May 2007 16:41
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Sssshhhhh.... Quiet now.... Note I also work from home and have quite a few consoles in the other rooms. Infact here is the DS right in front of me....

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Posted: 31st May 2007 18:44
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i'm sorry problem with being back at my moms for a few weeks, is i get kicked off the computer every so often for people to check e-mail and stuff.. nothing to do but Halo 3 Beta or Live Arcade.

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Posted: 31st May 2007 18:47
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Thats just fine.... Kart is more than enough.... Oooh, just remembered someone mentioned speccy emulation for the DS. Must look into. More handheld fun than since I installed Day of the tentacle on my PDA Bet you thought I was going to say sommit else there...

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Posted: 31st May 2007 19:09
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hehe, you tried ScummVM on your DS? It's insanely fun
Monkey Island on dual touch screens, crazy cool.

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Posted: 31st May 2007 19:16
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Now that sounds interesting. I mean DOTT is good on the PDA, but dual screen could be awesome. I'll give it a go tonight if I get the chance. Ta.

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Posted: 31st May 2007 19:26
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Quote: "Bomberman 360"


Average rating of 3.0/10? No thanks!

Quote: "hehe, you tried ScummVM on your DS? It's insanely fun
Monkey Island on dual touch screens, crazy cool."


I really want to try ScummVM on my DS, but you do know there's only one touch screen right?

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Posted: 31st May 2007 19:39
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lol words in the wrong order, but you get what i ment.

maybe i said the wrong name, i didn't mean that stupid retail title version but the xbox live arcade one they're working on. looks pretty cool ^_^ just like a 3d update of the original snes one.

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David R
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Posted: 31st May 2007 22:01
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Quote: "I use DirectX daily, and never used COM."


Erm... the entirety of DX is based on COM - hence the standard COM-based reference counting it uses, and why you can do QueryInterface to get older DX version objects


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Quote: "Erm... the entirety of DX is based on COM - hence the standard COM-based reference counting it uses, and why you can do QueryInterface to get older DX version objects"


You know I could add a COM Interface to Dark GDK, that doesn't mean that it becomes a COM API.

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Posted: 31st May 2007 22:16
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Quote: "You know I could add a COM Interface to Dark GDK, that doesn't mean that it becomes a COM API."


So what the heck are you using to code in with DX then? Because last time I looked, the COM interface is the _only_ interface it uses; there is no raw C function set for DX, because it is a COM API.


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if you don't understand what you're looking at above, then feel free to ask someone who wants to waste their time trying to explain.

it's true that DirectX is registered with COM, doesn't mean that is the only way to access and use it.

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Posted: 1st Jun 2007 09:47 Edited at: 1st Jun 2007 09:48
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What's the point of just posting some code (ugly code at that)? Perhaps an explanation would have sufficed.

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