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That C++ Nerd
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Posted: 30th May 2007 23:16
I don't see many people on the forums from Boston. Is there anyone here that lives in New England?
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Posted: 30th May 2007 23:20
New England???
That is odd i thought there was only one.

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Posted: 31st May 2007 00:09 Edited at: 31st May 2007 00:11
Quote: "New England???
That is odd i thought there was only one."


England and New England are two completely different things.


England is a country in the U.K.

New England is a region in the U.S I believe.

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Posted: 31st May 2007 00:17
I didn't know New England was so unknown. Yea, it's in the U.S.

People from the UK should know that, IT'S PART OF THEIR HISTORY TOO!
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Posted: 31st May 2007 00:18
Quote: "I didn't know New England was so unknown"


I know about it, and so does everone else I know

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Posted: 31st May 2007 00:27 Edited at: 31st May 2007 00:29
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People from the UK should know that, IT'S PART OF THEIR HISTORY TOO!"


Three chapters in just about any encyclopedia.

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Posted: 31st May 2007 00:51
Well, we were named "New England" BY England. I don't care anymore, a mod can lock this thread for all I care, it's not like anyone will respond.

MOD: Lock this if you want, this thread isn't as important as others, and don't want to waste a slot on the front page.
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Posted: 31st May 2007 00:55
Quote: "Well, we were named "New England" BY England."

That's really a vital part of history to remember isn't it.

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Posted: 31st May 2007 01:04
errrmmm... I think DeathBed was being sarcastic. It something those blokes across the sea like to do with us Yanks.

He's yanking ya chain!!!!

What expression would you say in England????

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Posted: 31st May 2007 01:47
What's wrong with the old one? I mean we don't smell that much that people had to make their own brand new England? *sniffs armpit* Okay my bad...We do.

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He's yanking ya chain!!!!

What expression would you say in England????
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Depends where,

Normally:

He's pulling your leg...

South London:

Gimme your wallet b****!

Cambridge/Oxford:

He is such a ignoramus, I do not wish to associate myself with the likes of that young man

And so on...

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Posted: 31st May 2007 05:20
well if you are in boston I am about 40 minutes south on the MA/RI border.

How about we get a name change from New England to Better England

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Posted: 31st May 2007 05:43 Edited at: 31st May 2007 05:46
Quote: "errrmmm... I think DeathBed was being sarcastic. It something those blokes across the sea like to do with us Yanks."

[sarcasm]
...I knew that!
[/sarcasm]

Quote: "How about we get a name change from New England to Better England "


Only if "England" gets renamed to "Much Better England".

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Posted: 31st May 2007 07:44
wow not even close. i'm waaay in the weeessssttt

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Posted: 31st May 2007 10:09
Yeah, he was taking the mick and joking around. Pretty much *Everyone* in the UK has heard of New England. On the other hand don't expect us to know *anything* more than that apart from we know it is in the US. Somewhere....

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Posted: 31st May 2007 10:14
Quote: "He is such a ignoramus, I do not wish to associate myself with the likes of that young man"
Dude, stop it. They would totally believe such things. Although the top hat, bowler, bicycle moustache, and pipe smoking is still very much in evidence today. As is the chimney sweep. Guvnor.... On a side note I was quite suprised recently to discover Chaplin and Stan Laurel were actually English. I suppose Chaplin is a bit obvious...

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Posted: 31st May 2007 12:30
WOOOOOH New England! It's just like New York: The take the name of a British city/country, i.e. York, and stick a "New" on the front! Sadly they didn't do that with Boston, MA. That's just plain old Boston come out of a cloning machine.

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Posted: 31st May 2007 13:40
I don't know. I quite liked the original New Amsterdam. Nice.

Quote: "That's just plain old Boston come out of a cloning machine"
Yeah, they weren't really that original. I mean it's Boston in the UK too. Think it's a tiny little place that no-one gives a monkeys about.

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Posted: 31st May 2007 14:56
Quote: "They would totally believe such things."


That's the whole idea, I wanna ruin England's tourist industry, this is just a part of my master plan...No American will wanna come here now! *Dr Evil laugh*



Quote: "How about we get a name change from New England to Better England"

Watch your tongue, we owned America once, we can own it again, just you remember that when making statements like that. (But you're probably right...New England = Better England )

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Posted: 31st May 2007 15:14
You can also piss people off even if you are only being funny. I mean, how can you say New England is better than England? Its like saying Bush is the smartest person in all of the world, its bull.
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Posted: 31st May 2007 15:25
Higgins-Rofl, but i'm so gonna stay away from that so this thread stays open.

Hey I love pa personally but i want to come visit england. and maybe live there.

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Posted: 31st May 2007 18:30
There is only ONE England mate! ;o) E.N.G.L.A.N.D ENGLAND!! LOL
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Posted: 31st May 2007 19:15
Quote: "You can also piss people off even if you are only being funny. I mean, how can you say New England is better than England? Its like saying Bush is the smartest person in all of the world, its bull."


The only people that'll be pissed off are those too thick skinned, stupid or miserable to realise it's a joke. The people that moved to New England orginally were Puritans that didn't like England and wanted to move the hell outta here. Oh and no one could EVER say Bush is the smartest man on earth, because we all know that I am - I know all that is necessary in the world.

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Posted: 31st May 2007 19:38
I'm from the greater Boston area.

Is there seriously an American on the forums that doesn't know about New England? It's kind of the oldest part of the country... I actually live in the town the revolution started in (where the shots were first fired and all that).

Learn your history. It's important.

Boston is really cool to walk around, because few of the roads were made for cars...

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Posted: 31st May 2007 19:41
Quote: "Learn your history. It's important."

Important for what?

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Posted: 31st May 2007 19:46
Quote: "Is there seriously an American on the forums that doesn't know about New England?"
I think it was a stab at British people not knowing about New England. Whereas in reality most of us have heard of it, but thats about it. I'm guessing a lot of people might be a bit hard pressed to say which country it is in (Africa, Australia, New Zealand?).

Quote: "Boston is really cool"
I could have either worked for a while in our Boston, Australian (don't ask me where), or Dubai offices. In the end ended up in Dubai for 3 months. Was pretty good though, and the Boston bloke said it rained a lot (which it totally didn't in Dubai). In the end the Boston bloke stayed there for about 10 years, got his citizenship and left for California (stuff the company) I believe. The Australian bloke did the same thing except stayed where he was. Basically because the office was next to a pub and opposite the beach. Nice. Plus he was going out with a local bird who used to be in Neighbours.

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I used to live in Boston, and I still visit regularly.

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Quote: "Important for what?"


Learning from past mistakes, I mean we can learn from the people who failed to take over the world and succeed ourselves, like Genghis Khan, Adolf, Napolean, The British Empire, The Romans and The Care Bears. (They came closest) So who's next to stand up to be the evil Empire, America? Austrialia? Canada? (I'd watch out for the Canadians, they may seem all friendly, cute and happy, but they're actually plotting to take over, just like the Care Bears, so I'd be warned)

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Posted: 31st May 2007 21:39 Edited at: 31st May 2007 21:44
Quote: "Learning from past mistakes"

Which of course has nothing to do with knowing about New England. But yes, you are right.

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I learnt one important lesson from New England's history, don't feed Magic Mushrooms to a bunch of superstitious people. Heck stay away from Salem full stop.

History has a lot of use, like Marx and I think Weber said that History repeats itself. And I guess it's also good from story writing, stuck for ideas? Take the puritan's arriving at New England and throw in something strange in the woods (Something Satanic - to contrast with the Puritans) to arouse superstition amongst the arrivers and then a few missing people and it could make an interesting horror story. Although I a different horror story to write.

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Posted: 31st May 2007 22:20 Edited at: 31st May 2007 22:24
1. New England kicks ass!

2. Yes, the British once owned America at one time, but the French supplied us with enough money to stop them. Now, America is in the top 3 for strongest military countries in the world. (I believe Russia, Germany, China, and Isreal are also in the top 10.)

3. New England is like England, except it has half the rain, no British accent, is part of the great USA, and people seem to be a lot more aggressive here (same goes for New York, New Yorkers are tough too).

4. People in Boston are tough as nails, people on the forums have seen how I lash out, except I'm not as aggressive as most Bostonians.

Don't get me wrong. The OLD England is good too.
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Posted: 31st May 2007 22:26
Quote: "but the French supplied us with enough money to stop them."


Backstabbers! Just because we have a long history of mocking the French...I mean I could quote shakespeare on this 'For thou art a frenchman, for ye is but foolhearty strumpet'.

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Posted: 31st May 2007 23:28 Edited at: 31st May 2007 23:38
I just saw a show on HBO the other day. It was a comedian teaching a class on history. It was quite hillarious, I'll have to find out the name as I didn't see the whole thing.

Of interest though was the explanation of the history of giving the middle finger, and saying FU. This was legend, but legend is often better than the actual story.

During the 100 years war Englishmen had one of the most effective long range tactical weapons in history. The English Long Bow. Apparently, it was fired by using ye middle finger to pluck it. During that time if a Frenchman came upon any english soldier they would cut off the middle plucking finger.

When the English were in-sight of their enemy they would raise their middle finger to announce, "See... I still have me middle finger, and I can "pluck" you!"

Which later translated into FU!!


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Two things I never quite understood and have been embarassed to ask is...

1. What is the difference between using the term English and British?

2. What's the difference between Britain, UK, and England?

I'm not being sarcastic. I know I have learned it, but I honestly don't remember.

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New England is the place to be. Besides being most of the original thirteen (woot!), we have things like fluff, great drivers , and eat more ice cream than any other part of the US.

Quote: "2. What's the difference between Britain, UK, and England?"


All I know is the UK (aka United Kingdom) is the area of Ireland, England, Scotland, and Wales; kind of that whole island group. Is there a difference between English and British??

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I don't know, we'll just have wait for one of those British dudes to walk in on this thread.

Quote: "New England...has great drivers"




That was good. We were listed as number 1 most aggressive drivers in the country according to some government poll.
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I hope they do, I'm looking some of it up on wikipedia. I think I have an understanding of the UK. Except I need to see if there is a difference between Britain, and Great Britain. And if you are British are you from Britain, and English is from England? Or are they both English and/or both British?

Why does this have to be so confusing? Where is Lord British when I need him?

BTW, I might be able to attend the convention. I just mentioned it to my fiancee and she liked the idea, though she would like to spend a couple of days in France. So I have to figure in the costs. This gives me good reason to re-educate myself of Europe.

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Posted: 1st Jun 2007 01:41 Edited at: 1st Jun 2007 01:43
Alright, I'm starting to read and educate myself, and I am finding out how ignorant I am. It's actually a lot more interesting then I remember it to be. Brythons, Ancient Roman Province Brittania, Germanic tribes, Celt, Scotts, Gaels from Ireland... The UK.

Why did I hate this so much in High School. I bypassed it in College.

Ok so England makes up nearly 2/3 of Great Britain, which is all part of the United Kingdom...

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Quote: "
1. What is the difference between using the term English and British?

2. What's the difference between Britain, UK, and England?

I'm not being sarcastic. I know I have learned it, but I honestly don't remember.
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The UK consists England, North Ireland, Wales and Scotland.

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This is quite fascinating!!!

Quote: "England ranks among the most influential and far-reaching centres of cultural development in the history of the world. It is the place of origin of both the English language and the Church of England, and English law forms the basis of the legal systems of many countries. It was the historic centre of the British Empire. It was the birthplace of the Industrial Revolution and was the first country in the world to become industrialised. England is home to the Royal Society, which laid the foundations of modern experimental science. England was the world's first parliamentary democracy[citation needed] and consequently many constitutional, governmental and legal innovations that had their origin in England have been widely adopted by other nations.
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Why the heck did my education focus so much on tea. I don't even like tea. I drink Coffee!!!

Being from "NEW" York, I didn't realize this either.
Quote: "The City of London is a major business and commercial centre, ranking alongside New York City as the leading centre of global finance."


And all the geographical distinctions
South West, South East, London, East, West Midlands, East Midlands,
Yorkshire and the Humber, North West, North Eat.

I am up to the Crusades....

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Sounds like someone is reading up on English history. And the tea comment...tut, tut - how can you not like tea?

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Tea is awesome. Totally kicks coffee's ass.

I've never been able to stand coffee, though I sometimes drink it to stay awake for two days or more. Tea actually tastes decent, without you having to convince your taste buds that it doesn't taste like bitter mud water.


...History is fascinating. It's especially interesting to figure out how different histories link together. History is also a great inspiration for any creative endeavour.

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Both tea and coffee are pretty nasty.

On topic - I don't live in Boston, but if I had to move to a city and I could afford it, I think Boston would be my choice. I visited it once. It's such a beautiful city, best one I've ever been to.

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The most beautiful city I've had the pleasure of visiting was Bath, in England. I refuse to say it Bawwwth, however, as the tour guide corrected me. Just not natural! Prefer to say it Bah-th.

But yes, I just love that city. I would move there if it were possible.

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Quote: "Both tea and coffee are pretty nasty. "


Be careful not to say that in a programing forum, it's basically suicide, what with all these caffiene addicts around.

Quote: "The most beautiful city I've had the pleasure of visiting was Bath, in England. I refuse to say it Bawwwth, however, as the tour guide corrected me. Just not natural! Prefer to say it Bah-th.

But yes, I just love that city. I would move there if it were possible."


I've always wanted to visit Bath, but haven't yet. Go towards the Cotteswolds, there are some really nice villages around there, like Upper and Lower Slaughter or Bibury (Apparently the countries most beautiful village) and in Sussex you've got Winchelsea, which has a really good view, and if you get the chance go to the butchers there - freaking awesome meat, 100x better than that supermarket crap.

Those are the sort of places if I didn't decide to move out of the country, I'd hope to live, I mean the cottewolds aren't too far from Oxford, which means I would still have a good place to work and a place to live in luxury

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Quote: " Just because we have a long history of mocking the French"


lol... so do we!

I was born in Fall River Mass, and grew up in Warren, R.I. As a teen, I spent most of my time between the two. (Federal Hill and The Combat Zone) I stayed in trouble. lol I haven't been there since 1974 but for a few days vacation. Glad to see others from New England.
We're actually proud of where our name came from and look very kindly toward our British friends.

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Sorry i thought you meant a totally different island not U.S.A.!

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Quote: "I refuse to say it Bawwwth, however, as the tour guide corrected me"
Nah, stuck up tosspots. Much like how a lot of people say water or tooth differently. Depends where you come from. Everyone knows though that if you come from the UK and say Gar-Ah-ge rather than gar-age (like cage) then you deserve a kicking.

Yeah I love history. Friend of mine was telling me that once the Scottish went to Ireland to get help in defeating the English. Unfortuantly it was the time of the potato famine over there and in the end the Scottish had to fight for food and there is even rumours of cannibalsm. Nice. Dunno if true, but would great if it was

Oh, and if you are English then you are English and British and from the United Kingdom.

Heh, I remember having a massive row in our old development department about whether Wales is a country any more. Interesting stuff, but basically after about 30 comp sci grads yelling at each other for several days (we didn't have that much work on) we came up with the fact that it is a country and it isn't. Quite confusing. Perhaps it's changed in ten years but basically it's a country and a principality or somesuch. Strange...

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I like Cappuccino if thats any consolation Sep. That's the only coffee drink I have ever liked. If I want caffeine I'll just buy some pop, however, caffeine doesn't do anything for me as far as I have ever been able to tell. I've drank more than a liter of pop before bed and I didnt get to stay up any later.

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If you wanna stay awake or have burst of Energy, Red Bull, Relentless or similar energy drinks do the trick...Heck a can of relentless killed my migrane and neck ache...Didn't know it had healing powers (The migrane was probably due to dehydration, but who cares, I'm still claiming it as a healing drink!)

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Quote: "caffeine doesn't do anything for me as far as I have ever been able to tell"
Nah, me neither. Same with the drinking loads of coke before bedtime thing. In Uni a friend of mine used to share around the ProPlus (one pill = 25 cups of coffee apparently) when we did an all nighter. They used to react like they had dropped acid or something. Personally around 3am I just wanted to curl up in bed, even after several ProPluses.

Saying that though, by far the best coffee I have ever had was in Paris. I'm not a big coffee (or hot drink) fan but Espressos in Paris were fantastic. Normally they taste like a cross between coffee and acid in the UK. I drank like 10 double espressos in Paris in one day and still slept like a baby that night. Maybe not being so effected by coffee is the reason why I'm not that bothered by it?

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