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Fallout
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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 18:34
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Quote: "It seems like after putting down your mod status you have made harsher and ruder statements, like you're allowed to now that you're no longer a mod."


It's all that extra beer drinking time he can fit in now. I reckon he's legless 24/7.


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indi
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ill keep that in mind when im presented with alien glass next time.
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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Jeku, that doesn't look shotgun damaged to me. It looks like it shattered then melted.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
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Ghosts are the most unlikely I think, at least as they are often described. residual energy, odd phenomena however are more acceptable to me.

Bigfoot: I think this is actually the most likely, we discover new species all the time. If man was able to migrate here then why not an ape/apelike creature that evolved differently. We know more about space than our own oceans, there is so much of our own planet left to explore.

Aliens: Life on other planets absolutley, visiting us in ships not so likely. Are there unidentified flying objects yes, but it does not mean they are spacecraft.

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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 21:00 Edited at: 26th Jun 2007 21:02
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@Indi:

If you read through Jeku's post, you would realize that he doesn't claim it to be anything related to Aliens He actually says that he doesn't believe in aliens as such.

Quote: "It's of course not alien, but still cool and kinda creepy. I can upload a pic of the evidence if anyone's interested."


UFO's and Aliens doesn't have to be related to each other at all. That glass could have been a tons of different things.

Although it might just have been what Fallout says that caused these posts...

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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 22:21
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Quote: "Jeku, yup i can see thats alien glass! pfft. And I thought you were clever."


Nice to see you're still an ass

I never said it was alien glass. Re-read my post, then think twice before posting. If you want to get personal, shoot me an email and I'd be happy to exchange words.

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I wonder, do some of you guys get this Psychic phenomena sometimes? My last one happened about 3 weeks ago, and I get them ever so often. It's really scary when my "thoughts" happen. Sometimes (but not as much as thinking) I have a dream about an event and that event happens, shortly after. It's really weird.

Anyway...

Aliens. For some time now, I feel certain that there are other life forms in the universe. Like what has been said before, we cannot be the only ones in this vast universe. There are millions of other star sectors out there, some could well be capable of supporting life on a planet (heck, maybe they think the same about us!) of course the organisms on these other planets will be worlds different from our planet.

UFOs. I really don't know. If aliens are flying around our planet, why are they only doing just that? Not bothering to make contact with the human race. Or maybe they have made contact but our governments are keeping it secret, to protect their nations. Maybe the 'aliens' are observing our planet, and they occasionally make regular checks on various parts. Aliens may well of helped in the construction of the great pyramids or the great wall of China. I watched this program about the Roswell incident. There was this theory that the supposed UFO went to earth to warn humanity. Around this time there was a lot of testing of nuclear weapons, and the aliens thought best to try and warn us for this mistake that we were making. I think the Roswell incident is true, and the government are keeping what they know away from our eyes.

Ghosts. I don't believe that when we die, that's it. It seems impossible. How could our awareness of living suddenly die. What would you see? That is one of the many secrets of life. The secret is probably revealed once we have passed away, but then it's no use. I believe there is an 'afterlife' only because I refuse to believe that we can lose our awareness. Then again, what was there before you were born? Perhaps as soon as you die, you are re-born instantly, like a blink, and you lose any knowledge of your previous life. This cycle may repeat itself many times, until, maybe the person decides to leave it and go to heaven or something. I believe less in ghosts then I do about aliens. Maybe a ghost is an image of us left on this world.
(by the way, this thought poped into my head a few weeks ago. All those people buried in the ground. That's an awful lot of funeral suits! And you can't keep burying people, because one day we will run out of space)

Bigfoot. Doubt it, because...Well, how can something survive that long? (when was the first sighting reported?) Maybe a hairy freak of nature decided to block himself from humans. Let's just leave him alone.

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Quote: "I wonder, do some of you guys get this Psychic phenomena sometimes? My last one happened about 3 weeks ago, and I get them ever so often. It's really scary when my "thoughts" happen. Sometimes (but not as much as thinking) I have a dream about an event and that event happens, shortly after. It's really weird."

A strange feeling of Deja-Vu? I do quite a bit, but people laugh when I say it. You get the feeling that you have lived or experienced the situation before.

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He's talking more of a Deja-Vu before it happens. This happened to my brother a few times and I think I've experienced it once or twice. Like, he may invision someone walking down the stairs in a certain way, and look up 30 seconds later and see it happen almost exactly as he invisioned it.

I hope it never starts happening too often to me, because I seem to invision lots of bad things happening. Like say, when someone is on a ladder, I may visuale them falling off, catching a leg in the rung, and falling, etc etc. I would not want that or anything like that to happen to anyone.

Deja-Vu is quite a wierd thing though and it happens to me often, sometimes more than once a day. It always leaves me with a queer feeling.

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Agent Dink, that's what I'm on about :p

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I have it happen at least twice a day, and its starting to make me feel insane. Like I have amnesia. Most of it is from dreams though, like as soon as it happens, I remember the exact thing happening from a dream I have had (sometimes years in the past)...

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Posted: 27th Jun 2007 00:48
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Quote: "Like, he may invision someone walking down the stairs in a certain way, and look up 30 seconds later and see it happen almost exactly as he invisioned it."


I think that happens to quite a lot of people. It's easily explainable ....
-How many ways can someone walk down the stairs? (Not too many permutations)
-How likely is it he's aware someone is about to walk down the stairs? (Fairly likely I would say)
-How easy is it to accurately compare an imagined thought with a visual experience? (Very difficult. I'd guess your brain fills in the gaps in your imagined experience. You don't imagine events in full motion video)
-How often does he imagine something that doesn't happen? (Anyone who's imaginative will constantly have stuff going through their head, but he won't necessarily be concious of it until it has a significance - i.e. when an event in real life occurs that is similar, and his brain makes a link)

The brain is just something we don't fully understand, and while we think we're in control of it and understand our thoughts etc. really we don't. It's just a mish mash of random stuff that we only control a small part of, and it can be responsible for a lot of unexplanable things.


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I like your take on that Fallout, you're probably right. It's still a creepy feeling when it happens though

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Definitely. I dunno, that's just my attempt to explain it, cos I think these things can be explained. Some of them are really hard to explain though, and rely on people admitting they might be wrong in what they think happened. These things can definitely seem 100% real to the peeps affected.


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Quote: "He's talking more of a Deja-Vu before it happens."


Isn't that, as Carlin put it, Vuja-De.

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Quote: "Isn't that, as Carlin put it, Vuja-De."


No, it's Uv-Ajed, seems quite obvious to me. Fallout seems on the same track as I am, but he's a bit more skilled in explaining it, so I'll shut up unless I disagree with him .


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Looking good Jeku, I dont believe in your pappys story and Im the ass?

Yeah its a major crime to not believe you, enough for you to get cranky and insult.
Dont be so foolish and immature, I'm allowed to not believe in that fanciful trip down the twilight.

Your buried glass to me is nothing more then your own family fooling you into a wives tale.
Its a tale from your family that you vehemently stick to with no real concept of fact, let alone have no part of it checked out by independent bodies etc. While its 20 years old now, Its now ingrained in you that its real. A shaggy dog story at best.

Why my grand pappy has an alien toe nail he found late one night in the forest, that glows green, Ill post a shot of it later
puullease.

Your faith and ignorance superseeds your reasoning here, just remember not everyone thinks that way ok, and are entitled to do so.

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Indi, tone it down or take it to e-mail. These are the posts everyone hated when you made. To tell you the truth, you are being the ignorant close-minded one here.

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Posted: 27th Jun 2007 05:28 Edited at: 27th Jun 2007 06:19
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I'm guessing you didn't really my post--- not really surprised actually.

I said it's NOT alien glass. It's NOT from an alien ship. Spending a bit too much time in front of your Mac there are we?

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Okay heres my opinions

Aliens: Yes. Like somone said before, how could we be so selfish to think that we are the only life that exists in such a huge universe?

UFO's: Nah. I think life probably exists way too far from here to get here in one piece. I guess anything's possible though...

Ghosts: I sure hope not. I believe in some kind of life after death, but I would be pretty ticked off if I still had to spend it HERE.
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Quote: "Spending a bit too much time in front of your Mac there are we?"


Don't you dare bring Mac into this.

About Aliens and UFO's:

I firmly believe that there are aliens somewhere in this rapidly expanding universe. There's so much, well, space, being created every day, every instant, that there is almost a definite chance of an intelligent lifeform being created on a different planet. I agree with Dazzag on this next part in saying that these odds go against us, and almost eliminate the possibility of UFO's. If they do exist, why in the world would they spend centuries just observing us, but making no attempt to contact us, except large areas of trampled crop? I saw a special on crop circles on some informative channel, and apparently there is a higher level of magnetism around the crop circles. Like, almost a definite line. But there could be another (extremely unlikely) theoretical conclusion. Perhaps these aliens interpret the flow of time differently, perhaps it appears slower to them. This is similar to the way two different people interpret the same situation. Maybe they interpret time like we interpret space, and can pass just as easily through time?

This theory applies to psychics, too. Maybe psychics can interpret happenings at a higher plane of existence then us "generic" humans can? Maybe they are a smidge more evolved than us?

About ghosts. I want to believe in them, but there is not enough scientific evidence to prove this so. All these "strange happenings" could just as well be caused by a group of pranksters, and unstable mind or an uncontrollable imagination. Maybe ghosts are real, but they aren't the ghosts of the dead? Maybe they are beings whose existence we cannot fully grasp?

I doubt bigfoot is real. If he is even partially related to human beings or apes, he is so far different than the other evolutions of apes that I don't believe that he is possible. Plus, with all the technology we have, we would've found him. If there was a small population, perhaps 20 to 30, I still doubt that they would exist because it would be difficult to find a partner to breed with, and predators could easily isolate one of them and kill it.

I think that exploring space is more important than exploring our oceans. Space is an indefinite amount of space, and it is nearly impossible to comprehend everything that could occur there. There are at least some laws that underwater life on our planet would have to obey. Therefore, we should spread our range of knowledge farther by extending outwards and discovering things that are completely foreign to us, rather than stay where we are and research things that are similar to what we already to know.

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Quote: "one day we will run out of space"
Heh, yeah, perhaps *one* day (like millions of years in the future). I mean c'mon, using up space to bury people obviously uses up space, but look at the bigger picture. I mean there is like 300 million people in the US right? And there is 60 million in the UK. Look on a map. See the size difference? There is only one state that even has half of the population of the UK, and I'm pretty positive the UK is not as big in land mass as any state of the US. ie. even with the space used up by living humans, we have *loads* of space left. Also look up the deepest hole humans have even made into the ground (can't remember but is something like 2 miles). When you look on a side cut of the planet it hardly even scratches the surface. Nah, for graves to be a problem of space on the planet then it is more likely we will be extinct as a species before that happens. Definitely not a problem in our lifetime at least.

As for crop circles, please please please don't get into them. Obvious fakes. I watched a program once where they were analysing this crop circle in England (didn't we invent them?) and were talking to this "expert" who made a living out of them. Anyway he warbled on about how the crop circle could *not* have been manually made, pointing out the folding angles of the crop (impossible to make by hand), and other such nonsense as evidence of extreme heat and impossible to create (on the ground) geometric patterns blah blah blah. When the interviewer then showed him a camcorder showing a bunch of blokes the previous night making the crop circle with planks and ropes he got all annoyed and claimed they were making it up. Went off stamping his little feet. Gotta love it.

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Yeah, I didn't believe it.

What about the Tooth Fairy? Anyone? Eh?

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Quote: "What about the Tooth Fairy? Anyone? Eh?"


Ok, if the tooth fairy was say, real then she must be awfully rich to afford to give money to each child, everytime they lose a tooth. There are millions of children in the world, and a tooth is lost every second, so this fairy will have no rest, always on the move, carrieng heavy money. Don't think so.

Sorry if I hurt any little kids on this forum, but it's the truth, and the evidence is overwhelming...

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How about the sandman? *whimpers* And Santa? WHAT ABOUT SANTA!?

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Quote: "How about the sandman? *whimpers* And Santa? WHAT ABOUT SANTA!? "


Yeah, there's a sandman who comes out on winter mornings and puts grit on the roads to prevent traffic accidents.

As for santa, sure he exists! You can't go anywhere around the festive season without seeing him.

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Quote: "As for santa, sure he exists! You can't go anywhere around the festive season without seeing him."

Lol...those are elves in disguise.(joking)

Aliens:Could Be, (half yes, half no, the way I see it there is or isn't, nothing else)
UFO's: Absolutely not.
Bigfoot:No
Ghosts:No........
Santa:Tim Allen killed him!lol, no.
Sandman:No, that's just parents way of explaining why their's that stuff around your eyes when you wake up.

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Quote: "I saw a special on crop circles on some informative channel, and apparently there is a higher level of magnetism around the crop circles."

I saw a show on crop circles, with a group of 3-5 college aged kids who had admitted they had made some, and showed on TV how to do it within like 3 hours. I don't know why so many people think it's so unfeasible to do .

Quote: "one day we will run out of space"

It's called cremation .


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Well, yeah, that, erm, is generally how logic works. There is aliens or there isn't aliens. Nothing else (mysterious 3rd answer to yes/no question).

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I personally put the Deja-Vu'y thing down to similar elements of superstions, or a belief for that matter. You accept elements that prove them and discount those which don't conform.

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Lmao, everyone who says Overcrowding is an issue is a fool who has never seen the world outside his town. Thats my experience anyway, the united states alone has so much empty land to build on, its not even an issue. Everyone in the world could live in texas side to side, and the US is a bit bigger than texas.....Maybe if we never leave Earth and have a population in the trillions this will one day be an issue, but for now I doubt it.

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I have a confession to make. My whole family believes in clairvoyance.....i just sit there, watching them believe it, thinking i'm adopted.

Yeah okay, maybe it's true, maybe some people can touch a photo and suddenly know what the person in question had for lunch today.

*cough*crap*cough*

Clairvoyance aggrevates me to the bone, especially for the fact that the "psychic" people earn money off it by being hired as private "detectives" and whatnot, grrrrrrr! *Throws dart at poster containing "psychic" person, twitching evul-looking French mustache after successfull hit on the forehead whilst pondering a grand scheme of global domination involving various references to Chuck Norris and your local supermarket*

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I know think that big foot not real
ufo's and aliens-No because i know the universe is huge! but how would they have more tech than us! We are now the TechBlue Planet now. Or was it the Trekblue planet?Noooooooooooo! I hate Trekys!

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Quote: "ufo's and aliens-No because i know the universe is huge! but how would they have more tech than us!"


EDITED - sorry Jeku :\ I shouldn't have posted that. It's just going to get on peoples nerves.

Who's to say they simply aren't just smarter than us or have different elements on their planets allowing them to do greater things etc etc.

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Aliens - For sure, 100 thousand million stars in the Milky Way alone. Outside that, there are millions upon millions of other galaxies also! Each star is a sun so I wouldn't bet that there isn't another little blue/white planet spinning aounrd one out there somewhere.

UFOs - kind of, They are experiment USA aircraft. My bet is that they have anti gravity pretyy much figured out by now if you concider that the stealth figher/bombers have been flying our skys since the early 1980s, it nearly 30year old tech!!

ghosts - no (sorry im a scientist!) I've seen camera film due all sorts of wierd crud, it's just bad chemicals. Now we're all digital I'm predicting we will see less ghosts

yeti - no, with all the guns in america if they exisited they would have shot one by now im sure. Funny how the famous yeti photos were taken while they were filming Planet of the Apers don't ya think

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@Agent Dink - Don't start an evolution discussion, please.

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This whole discussion makes me think of that "psychic lady" that's always on t.v. talking to to people. And the people are always saying "I've been seeing wierd stuff in my house lately.", so the lady just says "That's because your Aunt that died three years ago is trying to communicate with you!" and they believe her! I hate that lady.

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Congrats to everyone for posting an aliens, ghosts and giant bunny thread without it getting locked. Perhaps a sign of our community being a little maturer than it once was? Or more likely pure fluke.


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Pure fluke. No-one chased the afterlife comments really. Surprising...

Giant bunny? Well that is obviously real. I used to see it all the time on a friday night (about 11pm)...

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Yeah. If you've seen Donnie Darko, you know its real.


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And what about Wallace and Gromit and the Curse of the Were Rabbit? I mean that surely proves that giant bunnies are indeed real.

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no its because the nazi mod has left town.
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jump the next train :!

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'Nazi mod' sounds like an expansion pack for a WW2 game.


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Nazi Maude would be funnier

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Quote: "And what about Wallace and Gromit and the Curse of the Were Rabbit? I mean that surely proves that giant bunnies are indeed real."


I'm afraid, very afraid, Giants rabbits are real and for sale in Pets at Home Reebok stadium Bolton/Horwich UK. I think, don't quote me on this, there was a heaviest rabbit competition at Bolton Wanderers so they decided to sell a couple for £200 each to rich people who wanted to cheat!

They're called German Giants and are being selectivly bread for pets! They don't exist in the wild.... not yet anyway, wait until a few escape



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That's the biggest bunny I've ever seen! You could use that for home defense!


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that.
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cool.


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Which one's the bunny?

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If that isn't photoshopped then I would be quite scared. Got a few small bites from a rabbit when I was a kid and their front teeth now put me on edge when I see them. That thing looks like it could take a few fingers with it plus put you in the cooking pot...

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It's not photoshopped, it's totaly real and in the Guinis Book of Records! I think he is called Herman the German (the rabbit that is)

Yeah rabits are very strong I've seen a regular size one kick a cat and kill it. This monster weighed around 7.7st last i heard.

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