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Benjamin
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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 12:22 Edited at: 13th Jul 2007 12:22
Quote: "Ha Jeku they just release the PSP Lite it is *exactly* the same"

I understand it doesn't seem that much different, but you didn't really read about it did you? Supposedly it's 33% lighter, 19% slimmer, and has sped up load times and improved battery life. It also has a video output.

But really, what do you want from a 'lite' version? I'm sorry but you just sound like one of those anti-Sony guys to me.

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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 15:07
Quote: "But really, what do you want from a 'lite' version?"


How about a change like the DS -> DS Lite.

ie 50% lighter, 50% slimmer and 1000% sexier.

Are you actually impressed by it? Seriously??

I mean, if you look at every other console redesign in history (GB -> GBP, PS -> PSOne, PS2 -> PSTwo, GBA -> GBASP -> GBM, DS -> DSL) this has got to be by far the worst.

I mean seriously, if they had made these changes without telling anyone, I wonder who would have actually noticed.

The main point is they failed to address its #1 flaw, the analog nub.

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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 15:21
They could have done wonders with a redesigned PSP, seems a shame that they didn't think to address people criticisms. I have an old silver DS, but really I'm just waiting on it breaking so I can get a DS lite, then I'd probably pimp it with one of those snazzy replacement cases.

The original DS is kinda ugly, the DS Lite is the sex!, the best looking handheld console ever.

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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 18:11
But PSP is fun too!
There are great games such as Daxter, Lumines, Wipeout: Pure, Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops, Ultimate Ghosts and Goblins, Metal Slug Anthology, Every Extend Extra, and God of War and Manhunt 2 is about to come soon!

Thats a lot of fun.

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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 18:52
Quote: "Ha Jeku they just release the PSP Lite it is *exactly* the same."


Well all that's important to me is it's cheaper now, and comes packaged with a game. I still can't buy anything like that for a while, as I spent all of my money on my trip next month.

I still have the original DS, and think it's not ugly at all. Comparatively the DS Lite looks better, but when it's by itself, it's not ugly IMHO.

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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 20:16
psp is closer to a ps2 than a ps1 and i have one, and i couldnt live without it lol, its like a permanent attachement to my hand

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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 20:36 Edited at: 13th Jul 2007 21:08
I tried having DS last cristhmas but i dint I really like DS and all nintendo consoles so far But i think im gonna spend some money on ds after this summer Also i totally agree ps3 sucsk but im still trying to get it.. Only thing is the games what i like MSG and Square Enix games.. Otherwise i stick with Nintendo and PC

I've never liked PSP too.. I tried playing CoD with it on my friend and i was totally disapointed..

Id really like to see those Homebrew community links too Im really intrested on these homebrew stuffs on DS and if i get one DS i cant wait for getting Mario 64 DS Version I loved the orginal one for n64.

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Oops forget those homebrew links. I dint look this already got to page 2

Edit2:

Okay this got me up here They have made english mod for FFIII for Japanese Version of it Here i come DS hope i got enough money.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lnj5nrUI4ow


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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 21:41
Can't wait to see how Geometry Wars DS looks!

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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 21:57
YES! DS BEATS THE CRAP OUT OF Psp!
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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 21:58
Quote: "I just read that this round's football games will run at 60fps on the 360 and 30fps on the PS3. Bizarre."


Yeah...but Sony is trying to say that it's the fault of the developer not the PS3...lol.It is also interesting to note that Konami and Capcom both say the $100 price drop isn't enough for the PS3 and that rumor has it if the price doesn't drop MGS4 won't be a PS3 exclusive anymore (a smart developer would make games for as many consoles as possible to make more sales anyway).
Back on topic...
As far as the PSP goes look at all of the amazing things the PSP can do...until the battery runs dead...possibly the biggest negative of the PSP.
As far as the DS goes...if I were to get a handheld it would be the DS...but does every game have to use the damn stylus?I am trying to figure out how you play games when you have to take at least one hand off of the controls to use the stylus.
And the first thing I would probably do is go homebrew...

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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 23:40
PS3 already lost the MGS4 as an exclusive, its coming out for the 360 too. Whether or not they are out at the same time is another thing.

As for the DS, quite a few games have the stylus as an option, Resi evil doesn't need you to use it when playing original mode, it is needed for a few of their puzzles, as well as a few other rpgs and stuff. Usually using the stylus doesn't interfer with the gameplay, of course it depends on the game.
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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 00:12 Edited at: 14th Jul 2007 01:18
Aww.. It lost MSG Then i dont think i dont buy ps3 at all.. I could buy x360 if SE would make the FF:s and KH:s to it.. But they only make the Last Renmat for it.. And some other games.. Blue Dragoon looks pretty cool too but its not enough.. I dint like xbox (first) games and it just took my time and i sold it.. Im now afraid to buy any next gen consoles.. Tough im going to DS I also looked up ready the r4 Homebrew kit or w/e was it name.. Also im buying the SD Memory card I hope im then ready to watch movies (Under 1gb) ... I found good community and the Jess T post helped too.. I found good video quality settings already (i hope) lol.. Also im planning to buy the USB WiFi connector thingy because we dont have wireless connection. I hope i get my ds lite and other things at the end of this summer.

Btw.

Is there going to be any Super Smash game to DS?
There was rumour one site (IGN?) Dont remember that they interviewed the creators of SMB. They asked if there is going to be smb on ds they said "We think about it.."

Btw2.

So u use c# or C++ to program hombrew to DS? Sorry im pretty new to c languance so i dont know if they are exactly same.. Iäve never liked to start training c languance but DS would rise my intrest more!


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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 02:01
Quote: "How about a change like the DS -> DS Lite.

ie 50% lighter, 50% slimmer and 1000% sexier.

Are you actually impressed by it? Seriously??

I mean, if you look at every other console redesign in history (GB -> GBP, PS -> PSOne, PS2 -> PSTwo, GBA -> GBASP -> GBM, DS -> DSL) this has got to be by far the worst.

I mean seriously, if they had made these changes without telling anyone, I wonder who would have actually noticed.

The main point is they failed to address its #1 flaw, the analog nub."


The DS Lite also has a horrible D-pad, little plastic pegs underneath it so if you don't hold it "correctly" they rub on your fingers causing sores, and extremely small L and R buttons that people with big hands might find it hard to play games on.

And the analog the number one flaw? I take it you've never actually bothered pressing the square button?

Quote: "PS3 already lost the MGS4 as an exclusive, its coming out for the 360 too. Whether or not they are out at the same time is another thing."


Uh, no it hasn't. I'm tired of people making stuff up. Its old. We get it, people think its cool that the PS3 is unliked.
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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 02:16
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3160934

Maybe you ought to read up.Apparantly developers are getting tired of devloping games for a console that is selling last...
I can buy a decent computer system for what they charge for a PS3.
It's outrageous.
I will point out that this does have nothing to do with the topic in question but it sucks to be Sony.I mean...PS2 sales are kicking PS3 sales' butts...

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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 02:23 Edited at: 14th Jul 2007 02:24
Don't accuse me of making stuff up. I may get information that is biased and untrue from various places that I assume to be fact such as a publication or a well known gaming site but I don't randomly make stuff up.

It was in an article in one of the gaming magazines I had a look at stating they had lost Devil may cry 4 and MGS4, and that the 360 had a version of MGS4 but it didn't have realtime cinematics like the PS3 version.

Its says here that its a rumor, the few 360 gaming magazines I've read said it was a fact.

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/751/751496p1.html

As for the ps3 being unliked, well I like the thing, except it can't play some of my ps2 games so when I get one I can't sell off my ps2, and no dualshock.. wth. Its also insanely expensive in the UK, prices should drop soon though. Its less costly than gaming PCs but still quite a lot.

I agree that the Dpad on the ds sucks, but games that allow you to use the touch screen for movement like metroid make up for it. I liked the PSP analog thingie, but it needs to be thicker imo.
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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 02:24 Edited at: 14th Jul 2007 02:30
@ FredP: That doesn't mean anything. It was never confirmed anywhere in that article. Last time I checked Metal Gear Solid 4 was presented at Sony's E3 conference NOT Microsoft's. And Konami ISN'T developing the game. They are the publisher. Publishers don't want to publish games on consoles that aren't selling. That's assuming that by the time MGS4 is out (early 2008) PS3s still won't have a big enough audience.

After people realize that the $100 price cut on the current 60GB model is temporary until they're replaced by 80GB models at $600, the sales of PS3 are going to boom this quarter.

@Chenak: That article you linked is a half a year old. And still stick my original remark, I'm tired of people making stuff up. Including the journalists who publish articles in your 360 magazines.
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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 02:55
Quote: "So u use c# or C++ to program hombrew to DS?"


AFAIK you use C++. At least that's what I've been using with devkitpro.

Quote: "Uh, no it hasn't. I'm tired of people making stuff up. Its old. We get it, people think its cool that the PS3 is unliked."


Rofl. Please. This isn't about PS3 being unliked. Most of us would probably buy it if it was worth the money. Like I said earlier, I'm starting to get interested in the PSP, and the PS3 with the price cut. That was until I read the cut is to clear out the 60GB inventory as they're moving toward 80GB units for the original price.

Honestly, what games are out for the PS3 right now that's worth $600US? This isn't an us vs. them argument. I'm honestly curious! If there's a *prospect* of having exclusivity on MGS4, then I can see that might be a reason in the future. But now? Motorstorm? Not worth it.

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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 03:03
Thanks Jeku! My friend has some c++ tutorials. And he said they are really good and he is training from them. I must train too after i get DS. On question still. What i understand of these WiFi Numbers.. They add other ds users as friend. Can Europe DS user add American user? Or Rest Of The World User?


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Quote: "Rofl. Please. This isn't about PS3 being unliked. Most of us would probably buy it if it was worth the money. Like I said earlier, I'm starting to get interested in the PSP, and the PS3 with the price cut. That was until I read the cut is to clear out the 60GB inventory as they're moving toward 80GB units for the original price.

Honestly, what games are out for the PS3 right now that's worth $600US? This isn't an us vs. them argument. I'm honestly curious! If there's a *prospect* of having exclusivity on MGS4, then I can see that might be a reason in the future. But now? Motorstorm? Not worth it."


Yes it is. There are people who literally find it amusing. Just go read around game message boards, its dumb, and its everywhere. I don't see how you can actually justify people arguing over whether or not its worth buying. If it wasn't worth buying NO ONE would buy it. The problem people don't understand is worth is SUBJECTIVE.

With that said, why would I care to aruge whether or not its worth it for you? I never said you had to buy it at $600, or $500, or that it would be worth the money. The only thing I cared about is you said you want one, and the most people would buy one if they could afford it. That's all that mattered to me.
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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 03:34
Quote: "If it wasn't worth buying NO ONE would buy it. The problem people don't understand is worth is SUBJECTIVE."


That's not a valid argument. A healthy 10-year old could buy life insurance for $100k a year. Most people would not go for that, but for the few that do, all the power to them. Mathematically speaking it's not worth it. The PS3 has *far* undersold what they originally projected, and even you can't deny that. The majority of gamers do not think it's worth it. Listen to any non-partisan blog or podcast and you will find most of them talk about how they're waiting for the price to go down, or some decent games to come out before they take the plunge, because it's not worth it. I'm talking about the masses, here.

Quote: "Just go read around game message boards, its dumb, and its everywhere. "


Well then it's probably true then I would say you're a logical person simply because you're on a programmer's forum. If *most* gamers are shying away from something, or waiting, then there is truth in there.

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You've basically just reduced quality of life down to math. Honestly I don't see how you can quantify the amount of time spent, or the enjoyment taken from a video game console, nor any other product.

So again, for people who decided to buy it at $600/$500 it automatically wasn't worth it because, you, and a lot of people say so? That's not how economics work. You might not find it worth it. A guy who makes 100 grand a year might. A kid who lives with his parents that has no other financial obligations making $10 an hour might.

I guess I can just basically reiterate myself because you just confirmed it: The problem people don't understand is worth is SUBJECTIVE.
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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 04:07
Haha, I guess some people have a harder time letting go than others, I guess. Sure, the 3DO was worth it to *some* people. So was the virtual boy, as *some* people purchased it. *Some* people got enjoyment from it, I guess...

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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 04:45
So I guess you need to hit a certain sales mark in order for mass consumers to notice its "worth".

PSP is worth more than a Wii, and a 360 I guess then. Whatever.
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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 04:57 Edited at: 14th Jul 2007 04:58
lol, i was just about to say:

PS3=Panasonic 3DO

...and yes i own a 3do, uncle bought it for my birthday one year.

Wii>PSP my opinion


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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 05:38
Here's how your argument is a bust.The PS2 outsells the PS3.
$600 is too much for a console.And Sony's "everyone will buy this no matter how much we sell it for or whether there are good games for it or not" attitude hasn't helped.
Konami and Capcom have both went on record to say that the price drop wasn't enough.And,of course,it's only temporary so Sony can try to forcefeed yet another PS3 down our throats while the PS2 will still outsell it (along with the 360,Wii,etc.).
Sony hasn't learned anything and Microsoft and Nintendo are reaping the benefits.
If I had the $600 (not including games,cards and such) I wouldn't spend it on a PS3 when I could get a 360 and a Wii for less.And they have quite a few fun games.
It's okay to be a Sony fanboy...it really is.What few of you there are left need to stick together.
You need to face the facts.PS3 is just too damned expensive and there aren't enough good games to justify spending that kind of cash on it.

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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 06:24 Edited at: 14th Jul 2007 06:26
How does telling me the PS2 is selling bust me saying people bought PS3s? People DID buy them.

Konami and Capcom decided the price drop wasn't enough not even after a week? I think you misinterpret way too much. First MGS4 isn't exclusive, now Konami and Capcom have PS3 sales figure conclusions before the price drop is even a week old. See they think it isn't enough.

Right, Nintendo ripping you off with "innovation", and overpricing their machine. And Microsoft releasing faulty hardware just barely under the PS3s price margins to make it seem like a better buy. That's reaping the benefits alright, but its not a good thing even if you thought it was.

You got me. The Wii is a pile of trash. Its sitting in my room caked in dust right now, and Nintendo's E3 presentation of what they think I should be playing is laughable. None of the launch titles are worth buying a Wii for, or the time people spent trying to get a hold of one. That's including Twilight Princess, which is/was better on the Gamecube to begin with. And the titles this fall look ridiculous. I'm tired of Mario, especially with all these gimmick gameplay things. Galaxy looked much better when it was called Ratchet and Clank. Metroid again? I had to read books to keep myself awake playing the first one. I didn't even bother trying the 2nd one for free. Mario Kart again, with online? I thought the Wii was only fun when you have dozens of people in the room with you. So far it was not worth $250. And you'd have to pay me to play most of the games on it. The only good news thats come out of the Wii in a long time for me has been Resident Evil 4 (which wasn't that great because I already own and beat two versions of the game multiple times) and that Dragon Blade might see a North American release after all. Which only got me excited because it actually looks like a real game, I'm not even sure if it'll be decent.

360 I don't care about. And will never buy one regardless of its price.
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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 08:44 Edited at: 14th Jul 2007 08:46
Quote: "See they think it isn't enough. "


If I hear the head of Capcom or Konami talking business, I listen. If they are still saying the console is too pricey, then I tend to listen to them. No offense to you, I'm sure you're a smart guy too, but still.

I *do* agree with you that the Nintendo conference was crap, and boring. Sony had the best conference of the show (I just finished watching it). Nintendo's was the worst. To me, I don't think the Wii is a better machine than the PS3, but I still have only the games to compare it with. That's all we have, right? I'm a casual gamer kinda guy, and the PS3 right now is showing me nothing I haven't already seen (and neither are the other two), but I am really enjoying the Xbox Live Arcade downloads. Perhaps when the PS3 store gets some good casual games I will have to reconsider.

Quote: "360 I don't care about. And will never buy one regardless of its price."


You see, people equate these kinds of comments with fanboyism. Do you wonder why people are calling you that?

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There are a lot of developers questioning the Wii's capability of lasting appeal also, do you listen to that? Do people also notice that some developers have switched to being exclusive to PS3 (Free Radical, Factor 5)? Its not a one way train. People make it out that the PS3 is the only console with problems. When the problem with it isn't really a wrong thing, just unfortunate. The price is too high, for sure, but you aren't forced to buy one right away, and you can get one for cheaper later, or even now. And apparently its not even a valid argument considering people seem to think there is no reason to buy it now, so I don't even see why the pricetag is even mentioned.

I'm far more concerned with how long the Wii's innovative controller can hold developers interest. Or why I have to switch out AA batteries in my Wiimote when Nintendo has been using rechargable batteries since the GBA SP. Or why Nintendo is marketing the Wii as gimmick instead of actually taking advantage of the controller to make some truly amazing gameplay. The online is just bad, and people ignore it and instead direct their attention to the PSN. I can already see some major titles ignoring online, like SSBB, which I will be vastly disappointed by. And when it first launched the speed was horrible, its gotten better now but I rarely use it anymore.

360 is just absurd. The biggest complaint about the PS2 was the DRE, but now that the Xbox 360 gets a RoD no one cares. Microsoft even admits the hardware was faulty. At least the PS2s DRE was a problem of dust (which many blamed on bad lasers, yet I've cleaned at least 6 PS2s and they began reading any kind of disc afterward). Then having 3 kinds of 360s, one without the HDD, almost forcing developers to limit what they can use. Introducing the Elite model without WiFi out of the box. Forcing developers to charge for content downloaded from Xbox Live. I don't play games very often anymore and if I wanted to jump online every few months or so I'd have to pay for time I wouldn't use. The only thing that looks appealing to me is the free service where I can download demos.

Besides that, most of the games on the 360 that I actually do want will also be on the PS3, like Assassin's Creed, Devil May Cry 4, Resident Evil 5. The only thing I've ever considered to buy a 360 for is Gears of War, but a Vista version is most likely coming. And I've already played it on my friends, which is now collecting in dust. And considering I have an Xbox sitting in my room barely touched, I'm pretty confident that there aren't a whole lot of games that developers will be making exclusive on the 360 that will appeal to me.

Its just funny when people call me a Sony fanboy when I own an Xbox. Have more Nintendo consoles than I do Sony, I think the only reason why I bought a Wii is because its Nintendo. But whatever makes them feel better when people don't reaffirm anti-Sony internet opinion. All it does it reassure what I already know.
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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 10:43
Quote: "Do people also notice that some developers have switched to being exclusive to PS3 (Free Radical, Factor 5)?"


Actually Free Radical has said Haze will come out on 360, just later.

Quote: "The online is just bad"


Considering there's only like 1 game that uses Wii online play right now, I don't know how that can really be stated just yet. Believe me when I say the new Madden08 has awesome online Wii capabilities

Quote: "Forcing developers to charge for content downloaded from Xbox Live."


I have heard that too, but have a hard time believing that to be the whole truth. There are tons of free GOW, Worms, Rainbow Six content, etc.

When the PS3 price drop stays (as in, they don't jack the price up again when a better model comes out like they are now), I will seriously consider purchasing one, if only for Little Big Planet, Home, and a few other exclusives.

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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 12:57 Edited at: 14th Jul 2007 13:03
Quote: "Can Europe DS user add American user? Or Rest Of The World User?"


There's no restrictions on region with the DS. You can also play games from anywhere in the world on your DS (although, I think that the DSs with IQ firmware [only specific Japanese models] are restricted)...

devKitPro (devKitARM & libnds) are written entirely in C and ASM, so you can write your games in ASM, C, or C++.
If you wanted, you could write it in any language as long as it compiled to an ARM processor (in particular, the ARM7TDMI & ARM9TDMI).

The best thing about the homebrew for the DS is that people who are adding to its development are from all sorts of backgrounds. Some don't know how to program (the ndsmotion developer for example), others are greate at ASM and no so great at C/++, etc, etc, and every little bit is all going together to make massive libraries of code for everyone to use

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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 14:53 Edited at: 14th Jul 2007 15:14
Hehe.. Thanks Jess T My intrest on ds is growing whole time!

Also i watched what games are coming/are in DS that there is lot of good games what i like.

Also could you point out some good community sites for ds homebrew and etc ds related?

And i hope i start using the Programming Talk board soon too


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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 15:15
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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 16:24 Edited at: 14th Jul 2007 17:02
Thanks! Btw. Your spider solitare (sorry if mispelled) looks great!

Oh and.. if you know any online shops what sells cheap ds lites and WiFi usb connectors can u tell me? I still found that all what i need to buy is total 225 euros. Im still ok with it but im just asking if i can find cheaper.

(r4 + 1gb sd + WiFi usb connector + DS Lite) = 225
(28.62e + 14.68e + 42e + 139.90e) = 225.2


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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 17:39 Edited at: 14th Jul 2007 17:40
If you can, get a Wireless Network card with a RT2500 or RT2560 chipset (Here's a list), then you can install the Gigabit SoftAP so you can go online with your DS, and still use the Wireless Network card like normal.

I've done it, and it works perfectly every time

And thanks for the feedback on Spider Solitaire DS. It's still under development, and every day I'm adding something extra which makes it nicer

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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 18:34
Thanks. I think that 225 price is fine for me Altough i need to start saving again after bought ds but its okay for me.

GbaDev looks like good community.

But i have question (again lol)

How easy it is to port games from dbpro to nds? And is it hard to learn to program to nds?


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You'll have to learn C/C++ which is very different from any kind of BASIC.
So, to get a game from DBP to C++, you'll pretty much have to rewrite the entire thing.
Everything that is in DBP you can do in C/++ on the DS, but you'll have to write all your own functions for images, sprites, rotating, 3D transformations, 2D transformations, saving/loading, or even to put a bitmap on the screen.

If you're not very good at C/++ yet and don't want to have to write all your own functions, PAlib is a good place to start for the DS.

Personally, I write everything myself.

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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 19:50
Hmmm it is pretty hard to program for unless you are experienced in programming a few languages...

I wouldn't pay any money just yet, you should learn a bit about it, program for an emulator first.

As to porting a game from DBP, it would have to be a complete rewrite.

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Quote: "it is pretty hard to program for unless you are experienced in programming a few languages"


I wouldn't say that.
Although I do know a number of different languages, none of them helped me to program any better for the DS hardware.
It all comes down to learning to think differently when it comes to controlling hardware directly through registers etc.

One of my mates at Uni tried (he's not the strongest programmer), and just couldn't get his head around the concept of registers even though we'd just finished a 6month class on programming in ASM! It was the fact that whatever he did would have a direct effect on the hardware, and each register needed to be set up specifically, etc, etc, he just didn't grasp it all.
Having said that, it did take me a full hour to explain to him how a for loop works only 2 years ago... He's not the brightest spark in the fire.

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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 20:07
Yes. I dont mind if i dont learn to program right away with C.. But i just like the ds games and for the r4 i would but the media player forgot name (it was something starting with word "moon").

So i dont really just buy it for hombrew dev..

Newegg has everything cheaper but they dont ship europe so i just need to buy those with that price. Altrough im looking forward for the FFIV, FFCC DS , FFIII , Zelda , And etc. games coming to ds

( I give you a cookie if you know any cheap shop what ships europe )

Oh and thanks for the answers. They really raised my intrest on DS more!


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Quote: "PAlib is a good place to start for the DS."


I agree. This is what I'm using to tinker around with, and it can save a lot of headache when you're learning C++.

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Hey this PaLib is pretty funky I already got Hello World text running on DS top screen Ill try now to make little text adventure

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Wow good going!

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Posted: 15th Jul 2007 00:06 Edited at: 15th Jul 2007 00:23
Thanks I looked some templates and documentation. I just love the doc its just like in dbpro! Hmm.. Its late here and i start reading c++ tutorials tomorrow.. So i ask fast question.

How i use ints with strings?

How i can get the variable asd after the text ASD : ?

Edit:

I got it working Hehee.. I really like this Next i mess with returning stylush touches

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Guitar Hero DS? You've never seen StrumMe on GBADev, then.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
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Quote: "How i use ints with strings?"


Something like PA_OutputText(0, 0, 0, "Score: %d", iScore);

Use it like you'd use printf in C.

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Posted: 15th Jul 2007 01:25 Edited at: 15th Jul 2007 01:26
Yes i already found it out

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Posted: 15th Jul 2007 02:35
Okay Heres my Random Text Adventure game It sure was fun

You skip the text by touching the second screen on DS..

Oh and at the end you can draw on second screen lol

Well atleast all works on emulator! If somebody have time and is kind enough can try this on ds and post screen that would be great

Heres the source:



But now i go sleep

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Wow, I didn't know palib has a built-in keyboard. Pretty sweet

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Posted: 15th Jul 2007 17:27 Edited at: 15th Jul 2007 17:30
Thanks!!

Now i moved on plaftmover I got little help from mario plaftromer tutorial

Heres the NDS File:



Yes i know AI Sucks on other mario But i try to make it better

Reason why the game is in touch screen is because im gonna implent some touch things on game

Oh and the collision.. I will change it to collision map when need Not yet..

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Nice to see that you're putting the examples to good use

I hope to see some of your work posted around the net soon!

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