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Jess T
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 06:47
I was planning on getting tgchelp.com back up and working with a whole new look and feel (did a little work over my Uni Holidays), but looks like I don't need to now.

Here's what I was planning, so you can do the same with the wiki if you want:

o A 'See Also' section for related topics.
o A 'Related Commands' section for related commands.
o A 'Tutorials' section which would have both posted code, and linked in with tutorialcity.thegamecreators.com.
o A 'Snippets' section which would have both posted code, and linked in with Nick's new Code Base.
o I was talking with Mnemonix a while back about hooking it in with the devhat IRC. So, you would call a command such as:
!tgchelp sync on
and it would return the link to http://dbp.tgchelp.com/commands/sync%20on etc.
o Periodic emails (weekly/monthly) which would email all those signed up with new changes/additions since last time.
o A downloadable CHM (Compiled HTML file) which can be stored with all the data locally on a computer (In an effort to eventually replace the standard DBP help files).

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dab
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 07:17
I'm sorry but that site is really really slow for me.

If absolutely needed, I have a Dreamhost account with like 2.5 tb of bandwidth. So just holler and I can create a mini account on my account.
Jeku
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 07:49
Yah, I was going to say-- it's a great idea but sooo sloooowww...

I too have a Dreamhost account with buckets of bandwidth. They even have a MediaWiki installer, but anyways... if I would have seen this thread earlier I would have piped in

Roxas
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 08:11 Edited at: 25th Jul 2007 08:23
Yes. Site is now slow because im torrenting old movie (Yea i know but i cant find it on stores anymore.) Also i need to make little restart so speed issuses should be fixed after that.

After i get my older computer online. My sites should speed up also.

(OK server is resting now. It will be back up soon!)

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Roxas
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 09:06
Ok server is now rested. Can anyone try if its faster?

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Jeku
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 09:36
You're hosting this from your personal home computer?

Roxas
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 09:54 Edited at: 25th Jul 2007 09:55
Yes unfortunally. My second computer wich i use hosting purposes doesnt have cable now.

I dont like the hosting services on net because own http server will give you more things that you can do.

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dab
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 11:31
Quote: "You're hosting this from your personal home computer? "
Roxas
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 12:14 Edited at: 25th Jul 2007 12:14
Quote: "Yes unfortunally. My second computer wich i use hosting purposes doesnt have cable now.

I dont like the hosting services on net because own http server will give you more things that you can do."


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Chris K
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 12:24
I would be good if we could get it put on a proper 24/7 dedicated host...?

Shouldn't be too hard to copy all the data over should it?

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Roxas
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 12:35
Nope

Server just installs the Mediawiki then i give him my wiki settings and then i give my mysql mediaWiki database.

But i look forward going shop today to get my cable to my host computer Then i can host from that 24/7

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Jess T
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 14:58 Edited at: 25th Jul 2007 14:59
Alright, I actually just got an email telling me that my service for www.tgchelp.com and www.darkbasichelp.com are about to run out.

I can renew them and I'd be happy to point the DNS at whatever host you are using

That way, we can keep an already established domain name, and use your new system.

If anyone's interested, here's my MySQL database of all the commands, comments, and examples from the online help files:

Download

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To be completely honest with you, I'd still like to use my system rather than seen all my work go to waste. I mean, I wrote an entire CMS for it...

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Roxas
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 15:26
Umm.. I dont know did i get that..

But if you mean as domain name the DarkBIBLE.co.nr it can be easily to change to redict somewhere else address.

Can you tell me little more. Sorry that i dint understand competelty. And you mean with this that we can put the wiki on better host? If so then tell more please!

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Chris K
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 16:00
@ Jess T

We definitely don't want to see your work go to waste, hopefully we will be able to get them integrated somehow.

Quote: "o A 'See Also' section for related topics.
o A 'Related Commands' section for related commands.
o A 'Tutorials' section which would have both posted code, and linked in with tutorialcity.thegamecreators.com.
o A 'Snippets' section which would have both posted code, and linked in with Nick's new Code Base.
o I was talking with Mnemonix a while back about hooking it in with the devhat IRC. So, you would call a command such as:
!tgchelp sync on
and it would return the link to http://dbp.tgchelp.com/commands/sync%20on etc.
o Periodic emails (weekly/monthly) which would email all those signed up with new changes/additions since last time.
o A downloadable CHM (Compiled HTML file) which can be stored with all the data locally on a computer (In an effort to eventually replace the standard DBP help files)."


The 'Related Commands' and 'See Also' are done perfectly in a Wiki, whenever you mention a command just put it in [[ ]]s and it becomes a link to that page.

The tutorials I think would be best on a wiki, because people can add them and adjust them at any time.

We definitely need some way of organising them, and I suggest a page only mods can edit that groups them together and shows which ones are the best.

The code snippets I think could also work awesomely, I mean, you could have a snippet, and then you could click every single command in it, and it would take you to the page for that command! Awesometacular!

The emails, I don't know if we could do that automatically...

The last bit is obviously the hardest to intergrate with the wiki (and the best). I assume that as long as people stick religiously to the templates, it should be able to automatically compile a .chm somehow?

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In other news, I pasted the Command Template onto all the CORE commands. Let's start filling them out, while we decide on the overall structure of it...

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Chris K
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 16:02
What would be cool, would be a little program that you could give some DBPro code, that generated the Wiki BB code/ HTML code, all linked up and coloured correctly.

It would certainly speed things up...

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Jess T
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 16:17
Chris, I think Nick has syntax highlighting for DBP code on his code-base. Ask him for the PHP, and I'm sure he'd be happy to help out.

All you have to do is some-how hook it into mediawiki's code so that when someone edits a page and puts it within some sort of [code[i][/i]] tag, the PHP script is hooked in and returns the code properly linked and coloured. Like some-sort of pre-processor.

As for the compiled CHM, since my site already output all the pages in HTML format, I was planning on writing a php script that could create legal CHM files, and would simply scan through all the possible pages, capture the html output exactly as it was on the website, and add it to the CHM. Quite simple to do with my system, but alot harder to do with mediawiki.
Unless, of course, you can access the database in a reasonable manner. Then you'd have to either catch its output as HTML and put that in, or compile a HTML page yourself whilst parsing the all the BB codes, etc.
The worst thing would be links. You'd have to make them relative links between pages rather than between the website itself. So, either way, there's got to be some sort of post-processing.

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Roxas
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 16:26
MediaWiki has syntax highlight extension I think you just need to make keywords.

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Lukas W
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 16:39
If it was possible to, I think we should try to get Jess's old "wiki" up and running. It was too cool

Roxas
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 16:42
Yes.

I agree with that. Jess has more knowledge in php and else things and etc. lol

So if its possible just ressurect the wiki Jess

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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 19:03
http://80.223.24.234:8080/mediawiki-1.10.1/index.php/Portal:C%2B%2B%2CC

Tut tut

Does DARK ring a bell, who did that...

PowerSoft
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 19:48
Jess's system was EXCELLENT

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Chris K
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 21:02
What was the old wiki I don't remember it...?

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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 21:13
I can't remember as it's been a while but Jess's system was great, I really liked it,

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Jeku
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Posted: 26th Jul 2007 06:10
I've had this domain for almost 10 years and it's been collecting dust. We can use it for now, if it's ok. I have installed MediaWiki on it, like you have already done, but it should be much faster. Of course, you can keep using the other Wiki instead, and I'll delete this one. Or, we can transfer the database to mine. Doesn't matter to me at all!

http://www.codercafe.com

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Posted: 26th Jul 2007 11:30
Ok i can give you my Mediawiki Sql Database (Sql Tables) Soon. But not yet im kinda busy

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Roxas
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Posted: 26th Jul 2007 13:00 Edited at: 26th Jul 2007 13:02
Jeku i have E-Mailed you

Ill shutdown the server now So if everything goes fine just post here the new DarkBIBLE address. And tell me to make you a admin. (I have the roxas account still in the darkBIBLE )
Also i can change the DarkBIBLE.co.nr to redicet the new address.

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Jess T
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Posted: 26th Jul 2007 13:05
Wow, lots of support, thanks guys

Like I said, I did a little work on the interface, so it looks a whole lot better, but the major re-work needs to be on the database (mainly, adding those things I listed in the ToDo a few posts ago).

Alright, I'll re-register my domains for another year and we'll see how it goes

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Roxas
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Posted: 26th Jul 2007 13:10
Hey great! So how umm.. I just sent my database and other to jeku you need them aswell?

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Jess T
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Posted: 26th Jul 2007 14:03
No, no, I have my own complete system (kind of like a wiki, but more limited so that things don't get out of hand, and it already has an established database of comments and example code).

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Roxas
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Posted: 26th Jul 2007 14:14
Ok then Open that up So i can start rewrite my articles there

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Posted: 26th Jul 2007 19:45
I signed up for an account and have added some stuff for T3DGM (although I have never used it myself), but i'll post some other stuff sometime. I can see this developing.

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Posted: 26th Jul 2007 20:16
Thanks Roxas, I will put those tables into the site when I get off work tonight. By the way, nobody should add anything to my site in the meantime, otherwise your content will disappear. I'll post here when it's done (in about 13 hours from now, after I give blood after work).

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Quote: "By the way, nobody should add anything to my site in the meantime, otherwise your content will disappear"


Bugger, that's 15 minutes of my time wasted. Bah, never mind I didn't contribute that much.

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Posted: 26th Jul 2007 21:22
Sorry about that! Feel free to copy the data onto your computer then repost it when the site's database is updated tonight!

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As you're here and reading this, what's the maximum width for a forum sig? I think mine is too large.

Cheers

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600 x 120 pixels,

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Please put your old system back up, Jess! It was great! I came back to using DBpro for a serious project this summer and was extremely disappointed to see your site gone.

I can't remember too clearly, but if it isn't already implemented, a way to edit your previous comments would be nice. But first worry about getting something up again.

-Xol

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Posted: 27th Jul 2007 09:28 Edited at: 27th Jul 2007 09:39
Alright, peeps, looks like the database transfer was a success! Roxas will still be an admin, and all of your content should have been transferred. You can point darkbible.co.nr to http://www.codercafe.com for as long as it needs to be there.

I have enabled image uploads so you don't have to point to photobucket or anywhere else. Have fun Hopefully it's a lot faster. This will be permanent, as I have no intention of switching internet providers.

EDIT:

Roxas, one thing I've noticed is you didn't send me the images from the images/ directory on the server. Either you send them to me or the users can re-upload them on the site. Either way it's all good. All the user has to do is click on the image link that isn't there and click 'upload a new version'. It will warn them and tell them an image with that name already exists, and the user has to press to upload it anyway.

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Posted: 27th Jul 2007 12:56 Edited at: 27th Jul 2007 13:05
Yeh. Im not right now home so i cant sent the images dir.. So ppl need to upload images again. And Jeku will i need to make you admin aswell?

Edit:

http://www.DarkBIBLE.co.nr works again..

Edit2:

Jeku did you put the Skin.php file in includes folder? You should or we lose the co.nr domain

And maybe you and Jess T can combine your "powers" lol

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CJD
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Is it possible to have automatic syntax highlighting rather than having to type


There was a post in one of the other boards about such a feature, i wonder if it can be integrated into this?

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Yes! There is extension for mediaWiki wich allows highlighting.

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Tom J
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Posted: 27th Jul 2007 19:33
When I just visited the wiki I was extremely surprised to see that there were 136 articles, then I realised 90% of them were blank command files

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Yeah, I am intending to fill them out just got a load of other stuff to do at the moment!

If anyone is bored for five minutes, filling out a DBPro Core command page would be helpful...

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Quote: "If anyone is bored for five minutes, filling out a DBPro Core command page would be helpful..."


I may do one or two core commands sometime tonight although at the moment I'm quite busy working on my WIP game, Speedball.

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I found it surprising that the wiki wasn't mentioned at all in the August newsletter

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How do you create pages :S?


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Just search for it, and if it doesn't exist you will get the option to make the page.

When you search type it out properly and nicely.

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Jess T
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Posted: 2nd Aug 2007 05:38
Alright, unfortunately, I've started back at Uni and I don't have time.

Between creating 2 other paid websites, making a game in DX with other students for assessment, and just normal classes, I'm booked-out.

If anyone wants to get the system and maybe have a go at fixing it up, email me, and I can package it all up and send it over.

It requires PHP and MySQL.

email: jessticular[@]gmail.com



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Posted: 2nd Aug 2007 09:55
Jess T - I just sent you an email regarding this. I used to be a professional PHP programmer for a living, so it would be a welcome addition to the Wiki resource. Next week I will be visiting Asia for a few weeks, but in the meantime I can host everything as long as you send me the SQL dump from MySQL. Thanks!

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Done
Enjoy it!

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