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Dazzag
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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 09:07
Quote: "I think that's just an American thing"
Thats how it was where I was, and most of the places where my friends were. If it was a proper University then was normally a big campus. You have all your dorms split out into sections (girls only one was especially good) and basically most of the time you would go to a friends dorm and normally just join a random party or set one up yourself. Easy. Just add people and alcohol etc. Normally ranged from quietish efforts with mates, to full on "don't do this if you want to go into politics/the police" type efforts. Fun. And then there were the bars and clubs.

In the 2nd and 3rd year there wasn't enough room for us to live on campus so we all lived in town. And then travelled up to campus for parties, or did our own and sent mass invites. No worries. Anyone who commuted in (ie. lived with their parents if they were our age) might as well have been your mum.

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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 11:13
I guess not partying to you're purple is a Canadian thing. Well if it's fairly quiet in terms of partying, I suppose in some respects that's a good thing - you're still able to enjoy yourself and not have the noise when studying. I suppose it's a difference in cultures, the English and the Americans tend to have partying as part of their main youth culture, hence so many people drink underage and why England is full of binge drinkers. Though there hasn't been much of a party in these neck of the woods as we're all a bunch of quiet guys.

Quote: "I think if peer pressure is still an "issue" by uni, then you've been doing something wrong through highschool."


It's not, I was just saying people don't have to party just because it's the student thing to do or because everybody else is doing it, but to do what you want to do...but then you rightly said nobody is partying in your uni.

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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 12:25
Quote: "hence so many people drink underage and why England is full of binge drinkers"
Normal Uni students (not super young geniuses) are all old enough to drink legally in the UK. None of that stupid half paid off your house/been driving for years/married with kids type age for us Saying that, yep, I started properly at about 16. Hehehe. But c'mon, you are only that age once. Not as if I have a vodka bottle in my hands now. All the time that is...

The binge drinking thing though I put down to the stupid closing hours they used to do. Should be getting a lot better now. I was still in the UK when they started relaxing things, and it was a hell of a lot better. None of that everyone wants a fight at 11.20pm. Basically that was one of the only things that most of the rest of Europe had totally correct and we were a bunch of idiots. Then again where I grew up we had the ferries (international waters are good...)

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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 18:36
Well, I was told correctly about the timetables. They hoik you in with a nice timetable where you don't start too early or finish too late. Essentially, a big fat juicy worm on their hook. In the second year and onwards, they've got you, so they take you off the hook, and throw you in the keep net, and give you an absolute bugger of a timetable. Where before I'd be starting at 10:00 earliest and finishing at 17:00 latest; I'm now expected to be there at 9:00 twice a week, and finishing at 18:00 twice a week

So, where before my timetable would look like this:



it now looks like this:



(interesting use for code boxes, isn't it?)

That said, who else had their re-enrolment and induction on the rainiest day for months day. As you can probably imagine, it's not fun... Although the pilot online enrolment scheme meant I didn't have to stand in a line for two and a half hours like last year. A small mercy to be grateful of.
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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 18:42
Yeehaaw freshers week round 2 the week where universities open their doors and say come in and get smashed to students both new and old! The only week I actually want to spend time on campus . Tonight is the best night, bogof on all drinks .

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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 19:17 Edited at: 19th Sep 2007 19:19
Quote: "I was told correctly about the timetables"
Timetables?.....

And even normal students should use FAF week as a good excuse to meet new people and pass out a lot. After all, we all know the true meaning of FAF week...

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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 01:30
Well today I found out about a couple of interesting people, first a guy in my class is a FPSC user and has hovered around these parts, though I forgot his username and my flat mate who's doing a 'Games Programming' course is acquainted with our old friend Baggers - I think he's staying in the same building as I, I'd have to catch up with him some time.

Quote: " Tonight is the best night, bogof on all drinks"


Hehe, we got a 'Plonkers' off license at the end of our street, now that's a place for cheap booze, might check out to see if they do rum at a decent price, you can't beat a good bit of rum, even if you're not a heavy drinker.

As for timetables, mine is a bit simpler, though mine is only provisional at the moment and is subject to change: It is set out between 'morning' (9.00-12.00), 'Afternoon' 13.00 - 16.00) and 'Evening' (17.00 - 20.00) and I take up 4 of those time periods a week, all together on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday with Thursday and Friday free. Much more simple IMO

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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 11:03
Quote: "Much more simple IMO"
Not as simple as mine. But then just turning up by accident (the main building was on the way to the main bar, and it was always nice to catch up) and falling asleep in the odd lecture doesn't really count as a "timetable". Heh, those were the days (again) Think our record was five people falling asleep in a single lecture. Nice.

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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 11:37
Haha, something I'll avoid doing, a couple of mates turned up to a lecture already with a hangover and the tutors decided to dislike those and fail to even make an effort to get along with them. Though I can see the amusing side of falling asleep in a lecture, I mean for goodness sakes everybody is a critic these days...

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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 12:24
Sometimes is not that easy. I remember some lectures where everyone in there had a hangover (sometimes even the lecturer). Especially after large parties. Then there was that time when they closed the main Sun lounge (Solarium) in the night for a while because we had left a load of munchies, ciggies, and beer cans all over the place after a large group effort to get a big assignment done. Hehehe....

Sigh. Damn work is so annoying in comparison...

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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 12:58
Sounds like you lot had a whale of a time, though I'm sure I'd be amused by a hungover lecturer/tutor - a privelidge we never had at school or 6th form.

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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 13:51
Well I was in Wales These were lecturers that were pretty young and used to come to some of the parties. Never saw the older ones. One of our lecturers told us if we got nervous before an interview or speech then have a glass of brandy before hand, or some of these morphine tablets. Honest. I never have a problem with speeches, but a few glasses of Guiness before (and after) a job interview set my up nicely

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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 13:59 Edited at: 20th Sep 2007 14:00
Arg module selection today, too many choices! My timetable is pretty good, Monday&Tuesday 1pm-4pm and Thursday all day . Then next semester its Monday&Tuesday 1pm-4pm, Thursday & friday 9am-12pm . I picked some pretty easy modules so I'm confident this years gonna go well but then next year is a year in industry that is gonna suck.

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Ah, partying lecturers, love to see that, the guy I had this morning was a little Scottish guy...if I know anything about the scots no doubt we could get him drunk...though it would be better if he was Irish...but beggers can't be choosers. One of our school/sixth form teachers was a party animal, he actually made his own parties for sixth formers, last year we had some alcohol and went down the canal on his boat and had a barbecue, some got drunk, others didn't, but hey who could say no to a sixth form boat party?

We've had the fresher's fair (where all of the clubs trying to beg you to sign up) I found this group of people just about to start developing a game in XNA and kind of offered my 3D modelling skills to their project, though I don't have any 3D tools on this laptop, but I can work something out for them.

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Posted: 24th Sep 2007 15:36
Did you go to Bangor Dazzag?

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Posted: 24th Sep 2007 16:08
Quote: "no doubt we could get him drunk"
More like get you drunk. Us Welsh can really drink, but is a tough one with scottish and irish

Quote: "went down the canal on his boat and had a barbecue"
We did that near Windsor a few years ago for a work do. Reminded me getting smashed on the ferries as a kid Loads of fun on a boat.

Quote: "Did you go to Bangor Dazzag?"
Nope. Most of my childhood was nearer Holyhead, and my sister lived in Bangor for a while, but I didn't go there. Too near my family I'm afraid. I comprimised and went to Aberystwyth instead. Nice and far away from parents, but near my mum's family (Aberaeron). They weren't exactly thrilled that I only went to visit family once in 3 years though. Ahem....

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Posted: 24th Sep 2007 18:57 Edited at: 24th Sep 2007 18:58
Quote: "More like get you drunk. Us Welsh can really drink, but is a tough one with scottish and irish"


I dunno, my Nan's Irish and it didn't take much for her to get drunk with any of us drinking much, the Irish being the drunkiest of the drunk, I doubt a Scotsman would be a problem either.

Then again...it was my Welsh uncle that got me into Whiskey...

Quote: "We did that near Windsor a few years ago for a work do. Reminded me getting smashed on the ferries as a kid "


Drunken Kids on a ferry...I hope social services weren't called! To be fair I got drunk at 2, so I can't be one to complain...might explain why I'm a sober guy when everyone else wants to get drunk(plus the lack of money)

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Posted: 24th Sep 2007 23:12
Quote: "I dunno, my Nan's Irish and it didn't take much for her to get drunk"
Nah, I mean they are dangerous. You will be on a drip getting your stomach pumped before they go to bed. I used to be pretty good, but my girlfriend's 85 year old irish grandad almost killed me once when she said to respect him then wait until he goes to bed first. And drink everything he gives you. Old git. Went to bed at like 5am (after the 40 or so strong group of other relatives went to bed earlier) after lots of whiskey and vodka. But I won. He eventually went to bed before us. Not sure I got up for a day (ever wake up the morning after you thought you would? Tis weird) or so though...

Quote: "Drunken Kids on a ferry"
Well, when I say kids, I mean like 16 to about 18 (I'm 34). Who doesn't at that age? Avoiding police is part of growing up. I wasn't as bad as my sister though, who got into nightclubs at like 13 years old (blame the bouncers). Erm, you got drunk at two years old? Eh?

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Posted: 24th Sep 2007 23:19 Edited at: 24th Sep 2007 23:19
Quote: "Well, when I say kids, I mean like 16 to about 18 (I'm 34). Who doesn't at that age? Avoiding police is part of growing up."

Ah, I remember back being 16 in a field 3 litre bottle of cider and then the police would come, we would all run away someone would always get caught (never me though, I'm too speedy ), so much fun!

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Posted: 25th Sep 2007 09:19
Quote: "in a field 3 litre bottle of cider "
Heh, yep I remember doing that. Did you also have various items of road signs and cones? Heh.

I remember once camping some place with lots of cider and a friend of mine going ballistic with a large rambo knife effort. Shut myself in the car for ages (hands on door lever thingies as he had the keys). Had to go to the loo though after a while so while he was away somewhere I nipped out. He came hurtling towards me from the other side of the field. All my friends were shouting to hurry up, but you know how it is. Amazingly got into the car at the last possible second. The next day everyone told me he was winding me up and I was so wasted that he had to move incredibly slowly otherwise he would have been right on top of me Heh, funny how things seem when your back teeth are floating and you are quite a bit toasted. Smacked him around a bit for that one. Twit.

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Posted: 26th Sep 2007 13:47
Quote: "Did you also have various items of road signs and cones? Heh."

haha, yeh I still have one in my room from ages ago, a street sign "Butts road", I still laugh when I look at it.

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Posted: 26th Sep 2007 13:53
Aren't they huge though? We had a men at work sign, and hid it near a friend's house. When we went to pick it up his parents were really angry with him, so we quietly pushed the car to where the sign was while he went inside to make nice with them. After a while he came running out while his dad was chucking bricks and stuff at him. And I think a big knife (that was what the argument was about). Soon got out of there.

Totally disfunctional family. Heh, one time a friend of mine went there to go out on the raz, and the bloke started having a fight with his dad. So my friend pulled his mate off his dad by grabbing him under the arms (you know that headlock manouvre). His dad then said "Cheers mate" and started punching his son in the stomach. Class.

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Posted: 26th Sep 2007 13:55
Oh yeah, and those flashy lights you get at men at work places, make sure you know how to turn them off as they only come on in the dark. Not good trying to avoid coppers seeing you have quite a few in the car. Think needs a sharp object to turn them off properly.

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Posted: 26th Sep 2007 16:04 Edited at: 26th Sep 2007 16:13
Quote: "Nah, I mean they are dangerous. You will be on a drip getting your stomach pumped before they go to bed. I used to be pretty good, but my girlfriend's 85 year old irish grandad almost killed me once when she said to respect him then wait until he goes to bed first. And drink everything he gives you. Old git. Went to bed at like 5am (after the 40 or so strong group of other relatives went to bed earlier) after lots of whiskey and vodka. But I won. He eventually went to bed before us."


Good old Irish.

Quote: "Well, when I say kids, I mean like 16 to about 18 (I'm 34). Who doesn't at that age? Avoiding police is part of growing up. I wasn't as bad as my sister though, who got into nightclubs at like 13 years old (blame the bouncers). Erm, you got drunk at two years old? Eh? "


Ah, those sort of kids and you're right who doesn't? I was 17 on the canal boat party, going to parties underaged, having a drink, it's fun as long as you have your limits - but most don't and get absolutely wasted. Though I probably wouldn't encourage our youngsters here to go out and break the drinking laws because I don't know how sensible people are or how strict people in their area are.

Probably the best place to drink and socialise is the town park, once back when I had a social life, we just went to Sainsburys bought a load of drinks and snacks and just sat down chilling out in the park, 'tis a peaceful thing to do. Though I think it's illegal to drink in public (then add that we were underaged) but nevertheless, I may sound like a hippy, but with the effect of nature, drink, friends and a summer's evening makes something peaceful about hanging out.

Oh and yes...I did get drunk at two years old...barbecue party, sombody brought a load of punch, I went around drinking the bottoms of people glasses, 'A little bit won't hurt' was their attitude, but a little bit times by a number soon has a drunk two year old walking around giggling and not keeping a steady line in walking.

As for nightclubs at 13? Wow those bouncers must be careless or stupid. 16/17 is understandle because they can look 18. Unfortunately a nightclub is a place where 13 year olds (especially girls) can have advantage taken of them, so it would have been her safety at stake.


Back to the uni topic, we've had this event being advertised for some club (Zanzibar I think...) where Chico was to show off his self love and vanity etc. etc. and I heard that he got booed...bwahahahahaha, that is SO amusing, sorry, but it is and thought I'd share it with you guys. I so wish I went, it would have been so worth the £5 or so entry.

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Posted: 26th Sep 2007 16:21
Quote: "Probably the best place to drink and socialise is the town park"
Taking me back now boy! I remember we used to have a broken down old castely thing we used to hand out at. Loads of fun, especially at end of term (this was BTEC college). Dozens of people all pretty much off their heads on cider and, ahem, other such stuff... Hehe, used to spend my lunch money on a 2 litre bottle of cider. It's like appletise but gets you smashed! Nice.

Quote: "I did get drunk at two years old...barbecue party"
Ah. Yes. BBQs really get kids drunk. Isn't it like 14 where you are allowed to drink wine in your own house or somesuch? Anyways I remember getting off my face at about 12 at a family BBQ because of the fruit flavoured wine. Nobody realised Two years though? Nice. My grandad was a publican (and a complete alcoholic) and used to give us beer when we were babies to shut us up.

Quote: "Wow those bouncers must be careless or stupid"
Girls even at 13 can be difficult to tell. Some grow up fast. My sister seriously did. Plus bouncers let fit birds in no matter what. Sad but true. Think my sister was 16 when she was on the cover of an Ibiza dance album. Basically she was dancing on a beach covered in foam. As for her safety, well no. Not my sister. More like their safety. She is like nothing else when she gets mad.

Quote: "Chico was to show off his self love"
I don't even want to know what that is all about...

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Posted: 26th Sep 2007 16:39
Self Love - Uh I think I must have used the wrong thing to describe him...it's not the thing you might be thinking I meant vanity and 'ooh look at me, I'm so great' - like boy bands, I think Chico was one of the people to win XFactor - I don't pay much attention to this, but from what I've seen of him, he seemed very much love with himself.

Quote: "Plus bouncers let fit birds in no matter what. Sad but true. Think "


Sounds like most bouncers, trying to look sweet in front of good lookers hoping for a kiss - but I wonder how often that actually works? Come to think of it one of the teachers we had at school went doing bus duty always let the girls on the bus first, no matter how much cheek I gave him about it...oh goodness I never made that connection before... Perv.

Quote: "and used to give us beer when we were babies to shut us up."


Hehe, and to delude himself with you all calling him your 'best buddy in the whole wide world *hic*'.

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Posted: 26th Sep 2007 17:23
Quote: "Uh I think I must have used the wrong thing to describe him...it's not the thing you might be thinking"
Ah, you mean he is a complete and utter ****? Typical. Just go and accidentally glass him. Always the way.

Quote: "Sounds like most bouncers"
Not all bad though. I used to hang around with this huge bloke who used to work for that outfit in Sheffield that made a documentary about bouncers. Brilliant for being a mate with. Comments when you first meet them like "The instant someone even slightly looks at you when using a urinal then make sure you slam his head into the porcelin. Then kick them if they are still twitching" means you know you are going to have a laugh. Especially when they say it totally seriously and like really mean it as if giving out secret advice. I was his team leader when he changed to become a programmer. Was actually pretty good. Honest...

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I know they're not all bad, just a lot of them are weird, same with security guards at Tescos. I know one guy who used to one of our Karate black belts, huge guy (muscular, not obese - his hands were freaking dustbin lids), very friendly and out going, married and isn't in the least an idiot.

Similarly, the security guard at Sainsburys, big black guy with dreadlocks, lovely bloke who's actually trying to get into the game dev business.

Also, back to the uni thing, wasn't it you, Dazzag that said something about girls at uni? All I can say is dude they're so socialable, I guess it's a thing from moving from school/6th form and into a more 'mature' (I say 'mature' as I mean 'more adult', but maturity is really subjective when looking at some of the people...including myself, I mean dancing jesters with scary masks giving you leaflets is something with a serious 'what the hell' factor, so much so I was caught off guard, meaning I forgot to give them a hug) atmosphere.

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Posted: 26th Sep 2007 23:19
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Yep thats Uni for you. Especially during FAF week/month. Almost like fish in a barrel. Of beer.

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Where's me rum gone? All me rum is gone and somebody drank it and I didn't get much bloody rum, somebody's nicked me rum...rub a dub a dub gimme my freaking rum...

Uh that's my idea of a drunk post, I am kind of giggly and strange...lots of rum, good ol' Captain Morgan, now that's a real pirate...

Oh yes and the whole friendly girl thing has got my friend next door really excited. Heck I was walking back with a mate just now and a load of girls said 'hi' and we replied and bursted out laughing and shushing each other blatently...yeah we've got a way with words.

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 02:19 Edited at: 28th Sep 2007 02:19
Quote: "Uh that's my idea of a drunk post, I am kind of giggly and strange...lots of rum, good ol' Captain Morgan, now that's a real pirate..."

When I was 16 I drank a bottle of rum, people litterally had to carry me round all night, haven't drank it since. Had a similar epsode with whiskey but that was much worse, it involved me going up to a couple girls 1 after the other declaring my love for them, then passing out being picked up by the police and taken home...thats when it got bad my dad was nay impressed. Drinking was much more fun when it was not allowed, its all so samey samey now.

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 04:29 Edited at: 28th Sep 2007 04:30
Quote: "me going up to a couple girls 1 after the other declaring my love for them"


Yes, that reminds me of when I was 19 and got drunk at a farm party on whiskey. The hosts's daughters kept refilling my cup, and they were so cute, how could I say no?

By the end of the night I ended up hitting on a girl and telling her she had a great particular asset *cough*. 5 years later she married my best friend, and I still hear about that story.

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 08:57 Edited at: 28th Sep 2007 08:59
Quote: "Uh that's my idea of a drunk post"
Back when I started on these forums (2000) thats all I ever did.

Quote: "good ol' Captain Morgan"
Ah, those were the days. One of the quickest (so cheapest) ways to get blotto Most people smooth out to Bacardi when they get older. Mainly to save their liver.

Yeah, Uni is great with birds. If the same thing happens again then just ask if they are going to the party. If you don't know of one then walk around with them until you find one (must be one going on somewhere on a campus). If not then back to your place and break out one yourself. Can't go wrong

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Quote: "Ah, those were the days. One of the quickest (so cheapest) ways to get blotto Most people smooth out to Bacardi when they get older. Mainly to save their liver."


lol, I was actually surprised how quickly it got me drunk actually, I mean I suppose it's because I'm a lightweight as well, I was actually wobbly after the visit bar we visited.

Quote: "Yes, that reminds me of when I was 19 and got drunk at a farm party on whiskey. The hosts's daughters kept refilling my cup, and they were so cute, how could I say no?

By the end of the night I ended up hitting on a girl and telling her she had a great particular asset *cough*. 5 years later she married my best friend, and I still hear about that story."


Hehe, I just hope you don't continue to talk about her asset.

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I'm not much of a party animal, but I have nothing wrong with going to them occasionally, as for girls, well I'd be pretty looney to make a post about looking for one, I mean after all of these 'I have a girlfriend posts' that I had my part in getting locked or sounding too much like my neighbour, but I think I've met one.

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 16:19
I've never tasted alcohol.

Mainly because most else drink alcohol, and i like nothing more than to stand out of the crowd.

But since other drugs are less popular, ofcourse i had to try that. Mmmmm mexican plants....

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 16:51
Quote: "and i like nothing more than to stand out of the crowd"
Erm, ok. Do you also avoid steak, ice cream, movies, women, sex?.... If you are not a twonk there is nothing wrong with alcohol. Of course if you drink to excess all the time....

Quote: "But since other drugs are less popular, ofcourse i had to try that. Mmmmm mexican plants"
Yep. I was actually quite surprised that after a month or so it was considered a good idea to turn up to a lecture. Not so comfortable to sleep in however...

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 16:58 Edited at: 28th Sep 2007 16:59
Quote: "Erm, ok. Do you also avoid steak, ice cream, movies, women, sex?.... If you are not a twonk there is nothing wrong with alcohol. Of course if you drink to excess all the time...."


Haha, i guess i should paraphrase? It's tough to explain, but let's just say principles are involved.

Edit: and yes, i do avoid most things popular (like owning a cell phone), but i have my limits.

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 17:12 Edited at: 28th Sep 2007 17:13
Quote: "Haha, i guess i should paraphrase? It's tough to explain, but let's just say principles are involved.

Edit: and yes, i do avoid most things popular (like owning a cell phone), but i have my limits."


Heavily flawed principles it seems! You seem to miss the point of owning a mobile phone, most people do not own mobile phones to be popular, its because they actually have a use for them...

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 17:28
Geez, do i suck at explaining or what? Ok, it seems i do.

No, that's not the reason why. Popular is the wrong word, let's use NORMAL in this context. I do what i can to be least normal as i can, and as it seems, i'm doing a good job at it.

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 17:38
I don't drink either...couple of my friends at uni don't either, for a range of reasons. With me it's kinda religious/kinda personal choice.

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 17:40 Edited at: 28th Sep 2007 17:44
Fair enough. In Uni my policy went along the lines of anything to enjoy myself as much as possible. Luckily alcohol and other similar stuff makes you enjoy yourself. Nice and handy that. Now I just drink to forget.... Hah, just kidding! Drink (and other stuff) makes you forget no matter what... Good old blackouts from yesteryear. This was all fields you know...

Note I was originally posting that at Grandma. Although works with both of you I guess... And fair enough on the religious thing. At the end of the day I don't knock people for not drinking (I gave up totally for a couple of years a little while back), just that I couldn't even contemplate the idea back in Uni. Basically everyone is an alcholic. I mean really. And don't give the argument of "Don't need a drink in the morning or hide drink" etc etc. Look it up on AA sites (a friend was pretty bad at one time). Different levels basically. You know you are bad when registering at a doctor requires a whole new box of units drank every week as the max one is not even a third of what you drink. Hmmm. Swung the other way a bit there...

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 17:44
Common misconception that not drinking = not having fun....

I still go the pub with friends, I just drink something else.

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 17:47
Quote: "Common misconception that not drinking = not having fun....
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Never said that. And I personally have never had a problem not drinking. Some people do though. All I can say is that I definitely had a better time at that age drinking. There is a reason why people drink, and it's not for the hangover. Tis lucky really that you are almost bulletproof at that age. Move it to now and I would probably be hospitalised.

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 17:48
What like explain yourself normally like most people can? Not drinking is fine, but sounds like you're doing just to be not normal rather than doing what you want because that's who you are - if you do mean the latter then great. But to avoid things that are normal is abnormal, why not do things you want to do and not what care what people think of you? But it's your choice, I knew you were strange, but not that strange my man...

But like you said you can't explain it, so it seems obvious we need to learn Norwegian quickly, or what you're saying is being explained really poorly as it can't be brought into word.

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 18:04 Edited at: 28th Sep 2007 18:13
Quote: "Not drinking is fine, but sounds like you're doing just to be not normal rather than doing what you want because that's who you are"


Can't it be both? I ain't normal, because that's who i am. It's just not in my nature to go with the flow, and i would sacrifice alot of things to be that way because i feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing i'm spechial.

Also that's one of the many reasons i'm like this, because i don't care what people think of me. You turned that on it's head you fish person you.

It's all i have left, if i started drinking, bought a cell phone etc, i would loose my identity. I'm sure that sounds strange, but what do you expect from me? Something sane that makes sense?

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Quote: "why not do things you want to do and not what care what people think of you?"

That's exactly what i'm doing.

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 18:24
Quote: "That's exactly what i'm doing"
Well yeah, I agree with you on that one. Much easier to drink because you care people will think badly of you if you didn't.

But not doing something simply because you want to be different confuses me. At the end of the day Uni for me (and a hell of a lot of people) was basically trying out loads of new things (not alcohol though), and finding out what I liked. But no way was I going to stop something I liked to do. Not at the time.

I understand your need to be different (doesn't everyone in Uni? I know I did), I just don't get how avoiding alcohol does that. Alcohol or not, it was the gimps with no social skills that stuck out like sore thumbs. In our CS department there was very few of us who were normal. Which kinda helps with the few birds on CS degrees. I mean geek birds can be kind of hot. Ish. Well, for a night or two at the very least

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 18:33 Edited at: 28th Sep 2007 18:34
Yes Dazzag, that confuse alot of people. I have no good answer because i'm strange, pure and simple.

It would make some sense if i told you my lifestory, but i'd rather not.

Where's a shrink when you need one...

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 18:39 Edited at: 28th Sep 2007 18:39
Ah, fair enough. Each to their own. I wrote a 100+ A4 page book in Accounting classes (when I wasn't asleep) and co-wrote an entire book of poems (must have been hundreds in the end) by a fictional Irish poet (with fictional history of his life) at that age, so I kind of get it.

Only bit of advise there is creative writing groups are full of complete tosspots. Plus they seem to want to meet on friday nights (well, any night in those days was out). Sheesh.... Birds can be kind of easy though once you praise their drivel, so silver lining and all that...

Now I'm really off for a beer in front of the TV to relax. Been one of those weeks at work...

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Ps. Who needs a shrink? There is always beer! Kidding... Sort of...

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 20:08
What you're saying is beginning to make sense 'ma and well as Dazzag said 'each to their own'. If not being normal is who you are, then it's who you are, it just sounded like you were doing it on purpose because you want to be something you are not for the sake of not being normal, conforming against the conformists, sounded a little strange to me.

Quote: "Only bit of advise there is creative writing groups are full of complete tosspots. Plus they seem to want to meet on friday nights (well, any night in those days was out)."


Ahem! I was going to use Friday nights, as my going out nights if my flatmates didn't want to go out last I am spent for the week...And I am creative writing...what are you trying to say...oh right tosspot, well fair enough, I suppose it is true as many forumers would agree, right Grandma?

Quote: "Sheesh.... Birds can be kind of easy though once you praise their drivel, so silver lining and all that..."


lol, well I'm not the kind to humour a girl for her to like me, but to mean what I say and do, works out better in the long run I think, plus it's a bit more honest and well, decent girls dig honesty... (I think I've contradicted my own personality there somehow, but what the hey, I'm English)

Quote: "Ps. Who needs a shrink? There is always beer! Kidding... Sort of..."


That is wise advice that we can take, I've always told people of my psychiatrists who quit on me and many who committed suicide, judging from some of Grandma's MSN conversations I have with him, he's probably in the same boat...so do they medicate Beer on the NHS? Or do I have to buy some myself?

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Posted: 28th Sep 2007 23:32
@ Dazzag

Quote: "I wrote a 100+ A4 page book in Accounting classes (when I wasn't asleep) and co-wrote an entire book of poems (must have been hundreds in the end) by a fictional Irish poet (with fictional history of his life) at that age, so I kind of get it."


...yes, that about levels with my "normalness".
Seriously, great work.

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Quote: "oh right tosspot, well fair enough, I suppose it is true as many forumers would agree, right Grandma?"


Yes.

.....pssst! what's a tosspot?

Quote: "That is wise advice that we can take, I've always told people of my psychiatrists who quit on me and many who committed suicide, judging from some of Grandma's MSN conversations I have with him, he's probably in the same boat"


No comment, but i do suppose NSA have a whole floor of computers dedicated to monitor our conversations, they must be 120% convinced we are communicating in some sort of code...

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