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Geek Culture / We need mods on Game Design Theory Board!

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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 23:20
Quote: "To be honest I think the FPSC boards have too many mods. The game development boards only have 3 or 4. I can't see any in 2d chat aswell.
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Well they do have a lot of mods but still they have a lot Noobs there as well. So I think it just right.

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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 23:22
Well Jeku locked the original one in game design theory. He said that we should email a mod to lock a thread. Pretty pointless they should have active mods on there atleast a minute.

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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 23:23 Edited at: 19th Sep 2007 23:25
Well, how about starting with the grid based strategy one, the Super Smash Brothers one and all random two-line idea posts? And some rules and guidelines on the board?

We aren't voting and I don't know how this got to voting. I was already afraid it would end like this at the start, but I was away for 30 minutes and it ended up in this anyway so I guess the purpose of this topic is getting clouded.

The main post is we need a (existing) mod to cover the GDT board more often. It isn't a busy board at all, so it isn't so much of a strain. We need guidelines that prevent random 2-liner ideas and someone enforcing those rules. That's all.

Lol, the original thread in GDT shouldn't only be locked, it should be deleted completely. Like I said in there, ironically that post was a post that should not be on GDT. I think three different people claimed to have reported the grid based strategy post - all we need is love... I mean mods.


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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 23:26
I agree on the deletely completely. And I think that your right a existing mod should be on there. Or me!lol Joking.

Robert F
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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 23:35 Edited at: 19th Sep 2007 23:35
Quote: "We do try to cover a lot of the forums, but sometimes we miss a thread here and there. Shoot us an email if something is getting out of hand and we didn't notice.
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I totally disagree that we should have to send you an email to show you that there is a thread that is out of hand... I think that if you don't see it you are not doing your job. Well ok i understand that you might not be able to cover every thread, and if you cant then thats when i think we should have a little more mods.
I'm not trash talking or anything. That is just my opinion
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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 23:35
Quote: "Pretty pointless they should have active mods on there atleast a minute."


Pretty classy of you to say you want to be a mod, then bad mouth the existing mods. Like I said, we don't get emails when new threads are created, and we all have day jobs. We can't be everywhere at once. While *some* threads get out of hand before they're locked, a *lot* of threads are locked right when they need to be. Like I said, just send an email. Why is it pointless?

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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 23:37 Edited at: 19th Sep 2007 23:38
Quote: "Pretty classy of you to say you want to be a mod, then bad mouth the existing mods. Like I said, we don't get emails when new threads are created, and we all have day jobs. We can't be everywhere at once. While *some* threads get out of hand before they're locked, a *lot* of threads are locked right when they need to be. Like I said, just send an email. Why is it pointless?"


Yes i understand that we all have day jobs, but why send you an email when you cant read it because you are at your job, do you see what im saying. I think that is why we should have more mods. Im sorry if im offending you off being a bad mod or something, because thats not where im trying to go at all
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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 23:38
Quote: "I totally disagree that we should have to send you an email to show you that there is a thread that is out of hand... I think that if you don't see it you are not doing your job."


Well then we'll agree to disagree. There are no promises between TGC and the users here that every thread that is "pointless" will be deleted. If there's a thread where somebody posts hardcore porn or illegal links, that is more of a concern than somebody's game idea that you think is "lame". Give me a break

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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 23:40
Quote: "I think that is why we should have more mods."


Like I said, take it up with an administrator. There's no point in creating a thread about your issues. If the administrators think there should be new mods, then they'll appoint them.

Honestly if it's just because some whiny forum users don't like reading what they feel are "useless" threads, then I doubt anything will be done about it.

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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 23:40
Come on, guys. Why are you all putting off the people who maintain these forums because a few threads were missed? Anyone who looks at more than two or three boards knows how massive a place the TGC forums is, and that the mods are volunteering their time to keep it from exploding.

Robert F
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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 23:40
Quote: "Give me a break"

I understand that its not easy to be a mod but, we are the ones who have to deal with all the fake and stupid posts
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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 23:41
Jeku's right. Besides, there will always be a mod around, just not all of them at the same time. And since the Game Design Theory board isn't used that much, it's not much to get upset about.

"It's like floating a boat on a liquid that I don't know, but I'm quite happy to drink it if I'm thirsty enough" - Me being a good programmer but sucking at computers
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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 23:46 Edited at: 19th Sep 2007 23:47
Quote: "Jeku's right. Besides, there will always be a mod around, just not all of them at the same time. And since the Game Design Theory board isn't used that much, it's not much to get upset about."

I understand what you mean because really i don't really i don't care if we get another mod or not im just trying to stick up for the people who want more mods, and i have already emailed the admins about this. No i don't think they will do anything about it but hey its worth the shot
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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 23:47
Thanks for the support, guys It's not up to me how the site is run, in the end, but I honestly feel things are running smoother here now than in the past. A *lot* smoother.

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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 23:47
In all fairness, mods can't monitor every single thread, every moment of the day, they don't get paid and they get enough abuse is. It's not up to people here to decide who should be mods, or to decide whether they'd make good mods.

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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 23:49
On that note; Kent would make a good mod

Just kidding guys.

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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 23:49 Edited at: 19th Sep 2007 23:50
Quote: "It's not up to people here to decide who should be mods, or to decide whether they'd make good mods.
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I agree entirely Kentaree. Almost every new person to the forum, at one point or another, wants to be a mod, when they have little to no experience in such a thing, or have not contributed enough to the community.

Let the admins decide who will be a good mod or not. Let everyone else respect the work the current ones do.



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Robert F
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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 23:49
Quote: "In all fairness, mods can't monitor every single thread, every moment of the day, they don't get paid and they get enough abuse is. It's not up to people here to decide who should be mods, or to decide whether they'd make good mods."


Quote: "Thanks for the support, guys It's not up to me how the site is run, in the end, but I honestly feel things are running smoother here now than in the past. A *lot* smoother."


Yes i agree with you both and now i think this thread should be locked now because i think all that was going to be said, has already been said.
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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 23:52
Quote: "Kent would make a good mod"


I think some of the existing mods would disagree after last week

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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 00:09 Edited at: 20th Sep 2007 00:13
Quote: "Pretty classy of you to say you want to be a mod, then bad mouth the existing mods."

Jeku, you know I won't bad mouth any of the mods. I was just saying that we should atleast have 1 check up a day.
Quote: "when they have little to no experience in such a thing, or have not contributed enough to the community.
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I have lots of things I contributedlol.

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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 00:11
Sorry for double post: I'm amazed how quick this became a hot thread.

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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 00:19
I'll be a mod!



Jeku
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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 00:23
@Robert F - Please explain your last post. I don't understand.

Robert F
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Quote: "Haha just kidding I know yall hate me"


Thats right, no im just kidding
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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 00:29
Quote: "I have lots of things I contributed"


Now, I didn't mean every person wanting to be a mod contributed little

Just most have.

Hell, at one point, years ago, I tried the same bit. Didn't really have much to contribute then either.

But then, neither do I now, so not much has changed



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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 00:47
Jeku, no offense meant in any of my points. I'll be contacting the administrators as you recommend. I just want to share some views - not to attack your status as moderator but just man-to-man replies.

Quote: "The minute some of you start talking trash about mods being hypocritical, and raising a fuss, we're going to lock this thread. Period."

Heh, the minute we started this thread we knew it could end up like this, but we had to try anyway, don't you think? The forums are about creating an as pleasant experience for everyone and with none of the numerous mods checking in there in 2-3 weeks I think there's enough reason to at least raise questions.

Quote: "Like I said, take it up with an administrator. There's no point in creating a thread about your issues. If the administrators think there should be new mods, then they'll appoint them."

Well, there obviously was a point to this thread after all - now we know who to contact. Thanks for the tip.

Quote: "Honestly if it's just because some whiny forum users don't like reading what they feel are "useless" threads, then I doubt anything will be done about it."

Honestly, if there's an entire board (or even 2) being left unmoderated... Well, I think there should be whining.

And then, Dr. Manette:
Quote: "Why are you all putting off the people who maintain these forums because a few threads were missed?"

I think this thread more than any other thread shows that the moderators are hardly needed and respected people. At least, that's what the thread says to me.

Finally, indeed Jeku, it's not up to you how this site is run and honestly, I think you're a great mod on these forums. Keep up the good work and please drop by at Game Theory somewhat more often if you can - there's some interesting posts up there between the clutter.

That being said, this topic can be locked if you ask me .


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Robert F
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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 00:51
Quote: "Please explain your last post. I don't understand."


I meant that yes i know that all the mods cant keep control of the whole forums and i agree with you and Kentaree
Robert F
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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 00:53 Edited at: 20th Sep 2007 00:54
Quote: "I'll be contacting the administrators as you recommend"

I already did, but you can if you want.

Edit: Sorry about the double postMy Bad
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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 00:54
I locked the Grid thread (at the request of those users that pointed it out). It shouldn't be deleted, it should stay as an example of what not to post.

I also locked a couple of others. Just shout if something looks untoward. We are all mods in the sense that if we want a good community, we all need to be vigilant. The only difference with actual mods is that we have been trusted with the lock and slap buttons. Imagine if every noob had the same power


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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 00:54
Quote: "hat being said, this topic can be locked if you ask me "

Agreed. Goes off to email Admin.lol

Robert F
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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 00:55
Quote: "Imagine if every noob had the same power "

I would be terrified
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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 00:55
@tha_rami - No offense taken. I highly, highly doubt that no mod has been in the GD board for 2-3 weeks. When I go into a board, I don't read every post in every single thread--- there's just not enough hours in the day for that. If anything is suspicious I look into it. The GD board is one of my favourite places to go, actually.

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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 00:56
Quote: " I locked the Grid thread (at the request of those users that pointed it out). It shouldn't be deleted, it should stay as an example of what not to post.

I also locked a couple of others. Just shout if something looks untoward. We are all mods in the sense that if we want a good community, we all need to be vigilant. The only difference with actual mods is that we have been trusted with the lock and slap buttons. Imagine if every noob had the same power"


Thanks Batvink and you're absolutely right . Could you also lock the Super Smash Brothers one for me? Would be appreciated.


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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 00:58
@Mods: I have this little Horror guide on there aswell just to let you know.(Do not lock!) Got to go to bed now anyways. Pls could you check it out?

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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 01:42
Heh, I wouldn't mind being a mod there. I love game design theory I haven't posted in there much though because I feel some of the topics are a bit odd and I've also been working on programming more and more.

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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 01:44 Edited at: 20th Sep 2007 01:59
I haven't read this, but i think announcing you want to be a mod, voids you from ever being one.

EDIT: I think the mods do a decent job of keeping nearly 30 boards pretty clean, people should just quit moaning.


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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 02:10
Ooh ooh I want to be a mod, I mean all that power you have to abuse, I could have a week of power madness before I get permanently banned...Actually I'm wondering...Why didn't Indi do that? He left anyway, so he should have left in style, so I'm going to make Jeku promise to do it if and when he leaves.

Truthfully the only reason I'd volunteer myself as a mod is because I can imagine on places like this it can hilarious to check your inbox every morning, I mean I just get random newsletters and a proper email if I'm lucky - I bet Jeku and his crew get there's fill with hilarious emails. Though as Jeku rightly said, the forums have improved an awful lot, and I'm glad of it - hence mods are less needed

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Sigh. This happens every once in a while, but if I seem to remember correctly, almost EVERY new member got mod fever as soon as they joined up, me included (around the same time as my faked screenie post, and APEX's parody, ah, the memories). When new mods are needed, the call goes out (Remember the FPS Creator Boards BEFORE the new mods?). So, until we get a new nomination thread up, I think what we have now is just fine.

*Or* we could just light the Game Design Board on fire and run like the wind.


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Quote: "Though as Jeku rightly said, the forums have improved an awful lot"


Agreed, they seem a lot less immature of later days and those posts that are immature, manage to keep relatively in control.


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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 02:20
Just shine a spotlight into the sky at night with the TGC mod logo if you need help, and we'll come to the rescue

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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 02:29
Ah, that explains it, you guys are just not around during the day

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I'll volunteer to mod the board, I've been here long enough to know all the rules and how folks should conduct themselves. I've always attempted to be a voice of reason here in hairy situations.

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Quote: "Just shine a spotlight into the sky at night with the TGC mod logo if you need help, and we'll come to the rescue"

lol
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Well its not sooo terrible over there but some threads just aren't about theory anymore and that seems to be an issue..its as though some users think its just a dumping ground for their games that aren't worthy enough of a wip yet, its kinda annoying.

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Quote: "its as though some users think its just a dumping ground for their games that aren't worthy enough of a wip yet, its kinda annoying."


Well that's the whole point of the GD forum, isn't it? If you have a good idea, and haven't even started it or got it to a point where you can do a WIP post, then post about it in GD for some feedback. Or just talk about GD topics.

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thats true, I guess I was just hoping for some more theory posts...there are topics over there I want to talk about though so its all really okay.

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Quote: "Well that's the whole point of the GD forum, isn't it? If you have a good idea, and haven't even started it or got it to a point where you can do a WIP post, then post about it in GD for some feedback. Or just talk about GD topics."


"I have a idea teh best RPG ever its gonna be gridbased and turnbased and in 3d and i need ideas on the storie (in the time of castels and king) and teh game (how i make this) feedback please!"

Game Design Theory is for Game Design Theory and extensive idea's you want feedback on. Now it's usually just... well... uhm... that.


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Posted: 20th Sep 2007 05:45
Well it's impossible to keep everything on topic, all the time, everywhere. Show me a forum that doesn't have annoying noobs.

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http://biofox.aceboard.com

We killed all ours. =D

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Quote: "Well it's impossible to keep everything on topic, all the time, everywhere. Show me a forum that doesn't have annoying noobs."

I ain't claiming that, I'm just saying that there's a significant higher amount of such posts (compared to the average, excluding Geek Culture) on one of the boards. Don't get me wrong, I feel some people reply as if I'm saying the mods aren't doing their job right - I'm not saying that. I'm saying Game Design Theory could use some more frequent visits by our honored and respected mod-squad and a clarification for what it's for.


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