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Geek Culture / weird red ring of death (eek!!)

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puppy 101
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Posted: 14th May 2008 06:33 Edited at: 22nd May 2008 00:47
today i got the red ring of death it is was on my ~~NEW~~ 360 from the factory because my old one broke I am mad because i got a piece of junk computer hooked up with we5 because my computer is busted now back to the red ring i got it when i was playing portal and i just killed GLaDOS and then i got a crazy static sound my screen got screwed and then my 360 turned off and then i noticed when it was off the red ring was on i rebooted i got green ring of life but should i still send it in ? now i have 2 rings !!!

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Posted: 14th May 2008 06:44
Wrap it in a towel for a little bit, then try it again. However you should probably send it in, how long was it since you got it from the factory?

RIP Max-Tuesday, November 2 2007
You will be dearly missed.
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Posted: 14th May 2008 09:16
You have the time to spell GLaDOS with all it's silly capitals but you can't use a single punctuation mark?

Anyhoo, my 360 does the red ring thing most times when I power it up, then I switch it off and on again and it's fine. I think it's actually the PSU that is dodgy on mine though.


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Posted: 14th May 2008 10:34
I had something similar about 5 months ago... even had the static sound... I'm pretty sure it was just a power surge that caused it and I haven't had it since...

Obviously I have now doomed my 360 to rrod when I next turn it on

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Posted: 14th May 2008 13:06
My PS3 is problem free.

Also, you're going to want to beat glados again. You must see the credits. They are the best part.

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Posted: 14th May 2008 16:55
Quote: "My PS3 is problem free."

Your PS3 is far from problem free. 1) It's a PS3. 2) Has horrible games.

Anyways, I had the exact same thing happen to me. I had the red rings of death. So I just turned it off immediately and let it sit for 15 minutes. I turned it back on and I haven't had it again since. That was about 6 or 7 months ago.

Roxas
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Posted: 14th May 2008 17:12
Quote: "Your PS3 is far from problem free. 1) It's a PS3. 2) Has horrible games."


Everyone has opinions.. For saving you and others from flame war, keep things like those out of this forum.. We dont want more kids arguing about wich is better and making pointless arguments.

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The Kurgan
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,,.,..,,,,..,

There's the punctuation for your post.

And now, just to try and further even it a little...

,.>,.??!!""'::;'"//.

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SunnyKatt
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Posted: 14th May 2008 22:30
Quote: "Your PS3 is far from problem free. 1) It's a PS3. 2) Has horrible games."


I like all the systems, I'm just saying the PS3 has none of these issues, no need to get angry.

Chenak
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Posted: 14th May 2008 23:07
Quote: "I like all the systems, I'm just saying the PS3 has none of these issues, no need to get angry."


YES they do, Ive seen many go through the game shop I work at for repairs because they froze up and won't play games anymore... or it won't run disks, broken hard drives and many other things. Mine almost did that while playing gta4, was a scary experience. Only difference is the ps3 just does not show red lights. Stop baiting. They are both as bad as each other

Anyway it seems to have fixed it self, if it happens again send it for repairs, preferably before the warrenty expires.
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Posted: 14th May 2008 23:33
Really? Never heard of these PS3 issues. I believe they are a myth. Of course, my Wii Also has no issues.

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Posted: 15th May 2008 00:33
Quote: "You have the time to spell GLaDOS with all it's silly capitals but you can't use a single punctuation mark?"

To his credit, he used a few tildes and a question mark

I've never heard of any technical issues with the PS3. I did hear about GTA4 not running very well on either the 360 or the PS3 for some people, and the controller on my sister's PS3 broke two days after she bought it, but otherwise, none of my friends have reported anything bad with theirs. And bad games? wth? I can't flame you if you flame yourself j/k.

I'm spending the George Bush alimony check (aka the "Stimulus Check") on a PS3 and GTA4. This is the first GTA I haven't gotten on the day of release, so I've been depressed since it was released lol. I even tried to borrow $600 from my mom and my sister until the Stimulus gets here lol, and I hate borrowing money! But I'm a huge fan of the series and every time I get close to buying a PS3, some financial crap comes up that needs sorting first . I'm seriously bummed about it . Sorry for venting lol.

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Posted: 15th May 2008 00:42
Quote: "Only difference is the ps3 just does not show red lights"


i heard it shows a yellow flashing light instead of the normal green

www.firelightstudio.co.uk
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Posted: 15th May 2008 00:48
Quote: "Really? Never heard of these PS3 issues. I believe they are a myth"


Well I work at the shop and we definately do have them in, not as often as xbox360s but then there are more 360s about. The broken disk reading is the most common but we've had some that have just broken down completely. Fortunately they get repaired very quickly, sometimes the 360s can take months.
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Posted: 15th May 2008 00:50
Quote: "My PS3 is problem free.

Also, you're going to want to beat glados again. You must see the credits. They are the best part."

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Posted: 15th May 2008 01:08 Edited at: 15th May 2008 01:09
Well, I want a PS3. We already have the XBOX360, but honestly... Metal Gear Solid 4...

...must... know... why... Shadow Moses... in... trailer...
...must... know... Naomi... Patriots... Ocelot...
...must... know... Snake... suicide...
...must... know... Young... Snake...

...must...play...

*strangles nearby person*


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SunnyKatt
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Posted: 15th May 2008 01:43
...Gack!
*chokes to death*

Anyways, the only PS3 problem I ever heard of was the GTAIV install screen glitch. The XBOX360 gets that on the intro movie.

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Posted: 15th May 2008 07:02
Quote: "We dont want more kids arguing about wich is better and making pointless arguments."

WHAT?! That's the best part about forums.

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Posted: 16th May 2008 01:37
You know what! The console wars are stupid. Because..
A.People made them for your enjoyment not to be fought over.
B.They are there to entertain you not be a item of smugness.


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Posted: 16th May 2008 01:39
I've started sighing when I hear about 360 issues. They've caused a lot of hassle at work, we've had around 30% returned with faults and not a single PS3 returned!

You should get compensation

My PS3 has never had any problems not even with GTA IV (also I think R* have solved the issue now)

I'm not gloating, I feel sorry for you, 360 was always unreliable but it was worth the risk to get the exclusive games, now that PS3 has started releasing better games where does that leave the 360?

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Posted: 16th May 2008 03:58
Still #1 - Halo really boosted it, even though it's overrated.

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I agree with you about Halo being overrated, but I think we're in a very small minority of people who think that lol.

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Posted: 16th May 2008 06:44
Quote: "now that PS3 has started releasing better games where does that leave the 360?"


Not trying to be funny but what are these games of which you speak?

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Quote: "I agree with you about Halo being overrated, but I think we're in a very small minority of people who think that lol."

I must agree Halo games are all the same and even levels are the same. It really doesn't need the hype it was getting.


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Posted: 16th May 2008 13:04
Quote: "Not trying to be funny but what are these games of which you speak?"


MGS 4, and also Haze has been getting really really popular at gamespot (it got up to #1 every now and then on the popularity list) which is a game made by the guys who made the Timesplitters games, and it will be PS3 exclusive. That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

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Halo 1 and 3 are pretty similar, Halo2 is quite different. It's clear that Halo1 was quite repetitive, but it was still the best FPS for the XBox, I'd even go as far as to say that if not for Halo the XBox would have died due to the market strength of the PS2. Games sell consoles at the end of the day.

Halo1 made me need to buy an XBox, I've seen nothing on the PS3 that makes me want one. Although the next time I get a RROD I might feel differently . The 360 has a lot of killer titles, Dead Rising, Gears, Halo3, I bought a 360 because of Dead Rising. I used to dream about a huge scale zombie game and how much fun it would be, running around a mall trying to survive, and DR is a pretty good effort at that.


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Posted: 16th May 2008 15:15 Edited at: 16th May 2008 15:16
If i ever buy next-gen console.. Then it will be ps3. Why?

Because i dont play games really that much.. And only games that i like are from Square Enix.. And Square Enix does only make games for Nintendo and Sony (There is some multiplaftrom games for x-box too) But most of them are only for Playstation 3

The only games id propaply buy for ps3 would be:

Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Last Remnant (Multiplaftrom Ps3,X360)
Other Sqeenix games if they sound good.

Also maybe metal gear solid and GTA IV.

I really cant think of any good game for xbox really.. When i had it the only game i liked was halo and thats why i sold it really cheaply and was really dissapointed so im propaply really diffrent than other people but for myself its myth that xbox has all the good games.

But yeah afterall.. I propaply never buy next-gen console so i stick with my Nintendo DS and Computer

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Ah well, we already have the 360. I like it. Didn't ever show a single red light for us. GTAIV is certainly worthwhile, and so were the three Halo games. Screw what they were according to whoever, they were a hell lotta fun, besides when you got sniped twelve times without even seeing the sniper in the Legendary mode. So much fun was Gears of War, and not to forget the Dead or Alive games. Ah, if only MGS4 were 360. If only. That'd save me quite some cash.


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Posted: 17th May 2008 03:41
Quote: "now that PS3

has started releasing better games where does that leave the 360"


Quote: "MGS 4, and also Haze"


Those games aren't out yet.


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June for MGS . Everyone gave Halo the benefit of the doubt, I think it's only fair MGS gets the same treatment hehe.

To be perfectly honest, Haze doesn't impress me, not from what little I've seen anyway. Maybe playing it will change my opinion, but as it stands, I'm not really looking forward to it or anything.

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The only reason I think I may like it is because its made from the timesplitters guys.

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Quote: "The only games id propaply buy for ps3 would be:

Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Last Remnant (Multiplaftrom Ps3,X360)
Other Sqeenix games if they sound good."


My thoughts exactly.

However, I would get a 360 before PS3, do to my own reasons, I honestly think that the PS3 is better, but I just hate Sony for allot of things they did recently.

IE:
Their little copyright deal on their CD's,
The Wii released info on Motion Sensing, PS3 then makes a big deal about theirs in combat,
Xbox 360 comes out and they top their graphics,

and allot of other things I find mildly immature, lowering my trust in Sony, which makes me not want a PS3.

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@Maindric
you don't like PS3 because it has motion sensing & good graphics?
the Blu Ray deal was a very smart move maybe even smarter than MSoft's exclusive title deals

I would have thought the procrastination over every tiny thing would have been your main gripe, it's certainly bugged me
but I bought the PS3 for the long haul so it's OK as long as things speed up after MGS4 launch

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Posted: 17th May 2008 10:25
Quote: "Xbox 360 comes out and they top their graphics"


I'm still waiting for proof of this hehe.

The Haze demo was fun, but it still felt like a generic scripted FPS. It's still one of my favourite types of games, and I have it on pre-order. They have a promotion at EB where you can return the game within the first 7 days and get 100% in-store credit


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what is it with all these FPS games recently?
they're so boring and there's a new one each week

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Quote: "They have a promotion at EB where you can return the game within the first 7 days and get 100% in-store credit"


We have the 7 day thing here in Australia permanently... But you can get a full refund not just store credit...

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Posted: 18th May 2008 02:57
Quote: "you don't like PS3 because it has motion sensing & good graphics?"


Not really. When Nintendo released that they had motion sensing, Sony showed the motion sensing, as a "in your face" deal, and the graphics, the same deal. I see them as acting like kids.

When did I say I did not like the PS3? I said, Sony, and Sony makes the PS3, so I do not want a PS3.

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I honestly think that the PS3 is better,"


I mentioned it there. You read it wrong. =P

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Posted: 18th May 2008 15:41 Edited at: 18th May 2008 15:42
Quote: "I see them as acting like kids."


Wow honestly.. There is no people who dont act like kids.
Also your arguments are stupid.. How you know that Sony dint make the motion sensing before? Also motion sensing have been out for years.. And ALSO thats how business works.

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Quote: "How you know that Sony dint make the motion sensing before?"

Cause they didn't O.o Before they presented the six axis a games development company had 2 weeks to implement the six axis features to a demo they were presenting in E3, they had no IDEA the six axis feature existed (it wasn't in the dev kit they were provided) and at the last minute they had to update the thing to work.

Sony claimed it was in the works for a while. However keeping a company in the dark about such an "important" feature that they have been working on "for a while" shows that they rushed the feature in to attempt to compete with the wii. And thats fine, its a business after all, but they didn't have to lie about it.

They also lied about the dualshock problems, stating that dualshock wouldn't work because it intefers with six axis rather than admitting they were getting slapped in the face by the dualshock company for being so bloody arrogant and thinking they were too important to pay the license fees. I mean it was well known, how could they possibly think they could get away with that lie? They still did it anyway o.o

So I understand where he is coming from, ethics is very important for a companies reputation, Sony did some really unethical things to attempt to get their console to the top and some customers will boycott their products because they believe businesses should not beable to get away with that sort of stuff. Trust in the company is sometimes very important, especially if you are buying an expensive beast like the ps3 o.o

[edit] urm yer back on topic, have you had anymore problems with the red lights? it still working? I was thinking of getting an elite xbox because we have had NONE of them sent for repairs here. Hopefully it is more reliable
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Chenak, that's like saying Redhat lied about some Linux feature not making the cut because of the M$ lawsuits . Is it an actual, confirmed fact that they lied about the SIXAXIS Dualshock technical problems, IE, was there a leaked document proving it or something? Or are we just chalking this up to the popularity of bashing Sony lately?

Edit: PS, anyone in the Playstation Underground group might remember rumors of the PS3 controller having some form of motion sensing in it well before the PS3 was unveiled at E3. There was some "unconfirmed report" about it as I recall. Then they unveiled the ugly PS3 baterang at E3... I remember telling my girlfriend "motion-sensing or not, I refuse to buy a PS3 unless they replace that ugly controller" lol. They just didn't make a big deal out of it until Wii started bragging about their controller, probably because people like me kept saying motion detection is gimicky

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Back when the controller was first released, a magazine said
"At least if we chuck the thing in anger, it will always come back to us."

HA!

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Quote: "Chenak, that's like saying Redhat lied about some Linux feature not making the cut because of the M$ lawsuits ."


Maybe they did? I don't know what you are refering to really. I'm not a sony hater, but I'm not going to deny their unethical actions like lots of people who support sony or anyone else do.

Quote: "Is it an actual, confirmed fact that they lied about the SIXAXIS Dualshock technical problems "


If you want to go through the legal rubbish go right ahead, I want to remain sane. There are enough articles out there that state this but what was definate was they lost the patent case vs Immersion.

This means they were FORCED not to sell controllers with dual shock after a set date without insane fines or settling the dispute. They could NOT have released anything with dualshock until it was settled.

OK so what is easier to believe: Sony developed the controller but could not sell it, they feel a bit embarrased about even attempting to get away with not paying patent fees so instead they say "we had a hardware problem". OR

They did actually have a hardware problem and could not figure out how to have motion sensing and dualshock vibrations at the same time. The company that prides itself on innovative design, tech developments, next-generation consoles, the company that made the freaking PS3 : - Could NOT make dualshock work with motion control.... Am I the only one to think this as insane?

Seriously Id rather believe they lied, otherwise I'd be very mistrustful of there technology in future... O.o
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Quote: "How you know that Sony dint make the motion sensing before? "


I never said that. They MAY have had it before Wii did, but when the Wii informed the public about the motion sensing, Sony talked about theirs as if it was the best. They did not put to much on it till the Nintendo talked about their motion sensing.

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Motion sensing was used in an Atari 2600 controller well before the Wii. In my opinion it's smart of the other console manufacturers to copy what works.


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Quote: "This means they were FORCED not to sell controllers with dual shock after a set date without insane fines or settling the dispute. They could NOT have released anything with dualshock until it was settled."

Other than the millions of PS2 controllers they were selling throughout that case, you mean . And they weren't selling the PS3 when they announced the problems they were having, which makes me think they were generally having technical problems with how it works. I very highly doubt there's some huge lie about anything here. It genuinely sounds like a conspiracy theory, imho.

Quote: "The company that prides itself on innovative design, tech developments, next-generation consoles, the company that made the freaking PS3 : - Could NOT make dualshock work with motion control.... Am I the only one to think this as insane? "

How many problems has NASA had in the space program? They have the smartest people in the world working for them... but they make mistakes (on a different scale of course) all of the time. Just because a company is tech-savvy doesn't mean they're instantly free and clear from making errors or facing complications. Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo have all had technical issues with new concepts in the past. To immediately assume (and proclaim) that Sony is lying about something without tangeable evidence is nothing short of proof that there are people out there (like the people you got this idea from) who are buying into the anti-Sony hysteria of semi-recent times. Some people are having a hard time coping with the fact that the PS3 is witnessing stronger sales than it was previously, has very few technical issues (especially in comparison to the 360 or the Wii, and the Wii has VERY few technical flaws mind you!), and has really cool games coming out steadily for it.

Give me a second... there, I have my flame-retardant suit on. This one is going to undoubtedly irk someone, I'm sure.

I honestly, truly believe that Nintendo is under-manufacturing and/ or under-shipping the Wii on purpose as a sales ploy, because it sounds cool to say "yeah, we're selling out constantly." My sister, who works at Toy R' Us, says they get about 30 Wii's a month in her store. So here's the question: whose going to agree that this is (in the very least) plausible, and whose going to flame me into next tuesday for pointing out something evil that Nintendo is doing . Yes, I'm going somewhere with this lol.

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I still think its a bit too simple of a thing to have that many problems with. And besides there are many many articles that state that they were on hold because of disputes. Some of them maybe bias but there are too many to ignore
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/09/20/dualshock_3_confirmed_ps_home_delayed/1

And btw they faced HUGE fines for continuing to sell the ps2 controllers, it was over $80mill all together apparently. I'm not sure when they solved the dispute, but by the time the ps3 was available in england we somehow managed to get some ps3 controllers that had dualshock. The rest of the delay was just due to Sony hating europe and making us wait

Quote: "truly believe that Nintendo is under-manufacturing and/ or under-shipping the Wii on purpose as a sales ploy"


Be glad you don't have to deal with their distributers, they ARE evil
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Quote: "I honestly, truly believe that Nintendo is under-manufacturing and/ or under-shipping the Wii on purpose as a sales ploy, because it sounds cool to say "yeah, we're selling out constantly." My sister, who works at Toy R' Us, says they get about 30 Wii's a month in her store. So here's the question: whose going to agree that this is (in the very least) plausible, and whose going to flame me into next tuesday for pointing out something evil that Nintendo is doing . Yes, I'm going somewhere with this lol."


Heh, almost all stored are like that. The only thing is though, if they are, then why have they been the number one selling for the seventh gen consoles since September 2007? They must distribute enough to reach that number.

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Posted: 19th May 2008 05:18
Eh, I dunno, I've seen some pretty simple issues completely delay (or halt) things from completion (or even existing) before. I'm definitely not saying Sony's execs are saints... not by a long shot lol. I just think it's a bit unfair to the PS3, as a device, that people hate it vicariously through the brass. I'd say dualshock in a motion sensing controller is far more complicated than putting tires on a vehicle and not seeing them explode, and yet year after year some silly company gets sued because a soccer mom flipped her SUV, and they end up recalling tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of vehicles as a result. Probably the most famous of those cases was the Ford Explorer/ Bridgestone tire fiasco from a few years ago.

I just think it's unfair to the technicians/ engineers developing the PS3 and facing those issues, who undoubtedly wanted the brass to go public with the issues. If you look at the alternative, Sony could have launched the PS3 with broken hardware -- something Microsoft did, mind you -- and screwed over consumers in the worst way imaginable. So it's a catch 22 I think... they delay the product to fix the issue, but people think they're lying because of the lawsuit (and the recent actions of the brass), or they launch with a broken product and everyone hates them more, lol. That's how I see it anyway... I can't prove you're wrong and you can't prove you're right, so really it's down to personal interpretation I think .

Quote: "Heh, almost all stored are like that. The only thing is though, if they are, then why have they been the number one selling for the seventh gen consoles since September 2007? They must distribute enough to reach that number."

Well, if you mean they're continually beating Sony and Microsoft in sales every month, they aren't. I think they had a really strong start, and feed consumers enough to keep their numbers moving each month, but they purposefully sell fewer units than they could so customers complain to their friends how the Wii is always sold out. It generates an unholy amount of hype for the Wii, and it beats seeing units sitting around on shelves, as you'd see with the 360 or the PS3. In reality, 360 and PS3 are being produced to meet and beat demand and the Wii isn't, but it looks to average consumers that the Wii is more popular than it actually is. And the cycle continues for them, with demand staying steadily above supply .

But that's just a theory.

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Posted: 19th May 2008 05:24 Edited at: 19th May 2008 05:24
It all boils down to the fact that we love games and these machines play games, so why should anyone hate any of the companies that make them?

We're all so silly. You know if anyone doesn't want their 360, Wii, or PS3 you can send 'em my way any day. I'll even pay shipping

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Posted: 19th May 2008 05:25 Edited at: 19th May 2008 05:26
Um, the Wii *is* more popular than any other game console on the planet right now. The article you posted was from November 07 when the PS3 dropped in price. That was the FIRST and ONLY time the PS3 has caught up to the Wii, and that was in Japan. It's an artificial enhancement so to speak, with the Wii consistently stronger in sales than everything else.

The PS3 and 360 are very close in sales right now, however, in America.


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