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FPSC Classic Models and Media / [WIP]5PARTAN model

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Marc Steene
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Posted: 17th May 2008 12:17 Edited at: 21st May 2008 23:15
LOCK THIS THREAD

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Posted: 17th May 2008 13:32
Quote: "Master Chief"


Sigh...

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Posted: 17th May 2008 16:18
I was woundering when someone will make a master chief, hope it will come good

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Posted: 17th May 2008 17:06
You do know that this is illegal? And most likely to be flamed to a horrible death?
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Posted: 17th May 2008 18:51
Oh sorry all. I was assumed because some other guy remade the map it was allowed. Sorry, please can a mod delete this.

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Posted: 17th May 2008 20:02
Well, as long as you don't call him master chief, it is allowed.



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Posted: 17th May 2008 20:23
Someone released a pack once that had a character who looked like Master chief. Can't remember exactly.

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Posted: 17th May 2008 21:39
...yep. The DL has long since been removed.

Modeling this from scratch is fine. You'll have to do the same with the textures as well.

Using the name Master Chief is probably going to get you into some trouble. I'd choose something else...


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Posted: 17th May 2008 22:05
I'm a bit useless on the copyright issues. What can I do and not do?

Seth Black:

So I can model Master Chief but I would have to change the name?

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Posted: 17th May 2008 22:07
Call him master tchief lol.

Quote: "So I can model Master Chief but I would have to change the name?"

Yep.

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Posted: 17th May 2008 22:12
That's a bit weird

So could I call him a Spartan (because Spartans are greek if you've ever seen 300)?

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Posted: 17th May 2008 22:13
@marc steene,

You can model it from scratch without incident. I'd be your original work, so there'd be no copyright issues.

When done, give your new creation an original name, and you're all set...


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Ah Ok. I'll change the name

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Posted: 17th May 2008 22:19
Please could a mod lock/delete this thread so I can create a new one? Thanks

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Posted: 17th May 2008 22:22
No. Dont make a new one. just email a mod, asking him to change the name of the thread.

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Posted: 17th May 2008 22:28
ah OK

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Posted: 17th May 2008 22:44 Edited at: 17th May 2008 22:45
Updated:

Character upgraded to 964 vertices, skeleton adjusted to the model, and a basic texture and visor added. Enjoy!

P.S I requested a new name.

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Posted: 17th May 2008 23:29
To be honest, this isn't stealing in my eyes, it's fanart.

And if I recall it right, this is only stealing if he is using this in a commersial way, or taking full credit for it, and he did none of those two.

Or is it some new rule on this forum I don't know about?

I mean I DO wan't people to use there own ideas in a FPSC game, but we have to remember that this software is also used just for giggles rather than serious use.

The chief itself looks good however.

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Posted: 17th May 2008 23:47
Call it Spartan. Bungie doesn't own that name. The model looks really good. What you need is texture variants (blue, red, green, black, etc.) If you do your textures in photoshop, fireworks or something like that, this should be easy.

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Posted: 17th May 2008 23:50
Here's what I was thinking:

Now, this is gonna take a very long time, but hopefully within a few months I will have completed the following:

A Campaign (Obviously with a different story), where you fight the Covenant (More modelling). Hopefully by this time the Migration would have been released, allowing for allies.

And finally, a multiplayer map, possible a recreation of Bloodgulch. Red Team Vs Blue Team sounds good.

Thanks for the comments everyone, i will update this as often as I can.

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Posted: 18th May 2008 02:52

Yeah baby
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Posted: 18th May 2008 06:36
That's awesome

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Posted: 18th May 2008 11:39
I'm not really a halo fan but... is that some sort of base?

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Posted: 18th May 2008 16:52
Okay, those weapons and the building are from Halo 2, right? If they are, then I'm pretty sure that's ripping media.
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Posted: 18th May 2008 17:13
Why do you think that AI?

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Posted: 18th May 2008 17:47
I'm not sure, but I was just pointing out that so that he doesn't get the ban hammer. If I'm wrong, please say so.
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Posted: 18th May 2008 17:51
weapons and building?

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Posted: 18th May 2008 17:57 Edited at: 18th May 2008 17:57
You know, the ones in the big picture by maniac modeler

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Posted: 18th May 2008 19:17
The base is mine, but i got the smg from a friend. Im not releasing it though
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Posted: 18th May 2008 22:50
The Spartan, looks good so far, better textures and it will be great.

Hmm, this is quite funny actually, I'm making a fully wearable spartan outfit myself (I'll start like a showcase or post in geek talk when I get the helmet and other basic parts done).

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Posted: 19th May 2008 02:43
nice master chief u got there. u also a big fan of Halo?

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Posted: 19th May 2008 10:52
Quote: "You can model it from scratch without incident. I'd be your original work, so there'd be no copyright issues."


Not by far: If you repaint the Mona Lisa from scratch, it'll still be more a daVinci than a daHuntzburger- Copyright and artists intelectual property clearly include unique forms, original concepts and sometimes even titles. So instead of copying what someone already created for other than learning purposes go create something truly original. think of art as the truly satisfying process of creation rather than exploiting someone elses creativity. If you went to the store and could buy HalfLife, why would you buy LalfHife instead even if it was cheaper?
Your modeling skills seem to be good, now reach out further and show us your best original ideas, I'm perfectly sure they're worth it!!!

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Quote: "Not by far: If you repaint the Mona Lisa from scratch, it'll still be more a daVinci than a daHuntzburger- Copyright and artists intelectual property clearly include unique forms, original concepts and sometimes even titles. So instead of copying what someone already created for other than learning purposes go create something truly original. think of art as the truly satisfying process of creation rather than exploiting someone elses creativity. If you went to the store and could buy HalfLife, why would you buy LalfHife instead even if it was cheaper?"

So you've never done anything you've seen before? You've never quoted a joke from a movie? Ever heard of a fan-based game? Obviously not. There is nothing wrong with recreating material in anyway at all.

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Quote: "So you've never done anything you've seen before? You've never quoted a joke from a movie? Ever heard of a fan-based game? Obviously not. There is nothing wrong with recreating material in anyway at all."

a) i did, and i learned a lot from it. My point was that i would rate anything you come up with yourself higher than the best copy you can do from whatever someone created before you.
I saw marc doing his model with great skill and wanted to encourage him to go on and create something great of his own which he imho is perfectly capable of!
Fan based games never did it for me as long as they didn't add any great new angle to the original. I love parody but in art and games i prefer the new and original concepts...But that is just my 2 cents.

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Updated!

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Posted: 20th May 2008 02:13
nice work Marc, keep it up!

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It's a nice model, but the texture could use a little bit of work, it looks kind of... plain. it needs more detail like scratches and the like.

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That's looking really good now. All you need to do is make the armor look less like what it is now and add better textures to it and you got a good model.

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Posted: 20th May 2008 18:02
I'm sure if Bungie heard about this they'd be coming down on you like a breezeblock of lawsuit pain.......

Seriously, do you have any idea how much work they put into concept art, modelling and the like to end up with what we now call "The Master Chief"......

Trust me, it's safer to just make a person in armor that doesn't resemble the chief....

Also, Blood Gulch in FPSC, that's copyrighted.....and...I'm sure Bungie would be slightly insulted that their most popular Halo 1 map be ripped off like that...I know, I would.....

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Posted: 20th May 2008 18:27
I can rig the model for you.


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Posted: 20th May 2008 19:39 Edited at: 20th May 2008 19:40
@coffee grunt

I'm not selling this, or even mentioned that I'm distributing this, so in theory I've done nothing wrong. I don't understand why other people can make fan games in flash, and I can't even make a model without breaking the copyright?

P.S The idea of the game is now gone - It would be too much work, and the copyright issues surrounding it are constantly haunting me

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@ i want to game

Thanks, i'll send you an e-mail with the attatchment

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Posted: 20th May 2008 19:45 Edited at: 21st May 2008 10:44
Quote: "I'm sure if Bungie heard about this they'd be coming down on you like a breezeblock of lawsuit pain.......

Seriously, do you have any idea how much work they put into concept art, modelling and the like to end up with what we now call "The Master Chief"......

Trust me, it's safer to just make a person in armor that doesn't resemble the chief....

Also, Blood Gulch in FPSC, that's copyrighted.....and...I'm sure Bungie would be slightly insulted that their most popular Halo 1 map be ripped off like that...I know, I would....."


We might aswell report all fans at Deviant art for stealing the chief, those dirty fan artist are going down!

See my point? we might as well report Airslide for his DOOM tribute.

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Posted: 20th May 2008 21:14 Edited at: 20th May 2008 21:16
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@I want to game

do you have an email address I could send it to?

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It should be right under my post. Here it though ifitoldya@gmail.com


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Posted: 21st May 2008 02:34 Edited at: 21st May 2008 02:49
[edit] I don't want to get in an argument lol.

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I believe, that as long as you don't sell a copyrighted product, say a Master Chief character or a Bloodgulch map, you shouldn't be in any trouble unless your selling a product with a copyrighted object in it.

Like, Red vs Blue, that was a comedy based off Halo 1, 2 and 3. It was a none profit project, that eventually became a top seller once Bungie and Microsoft allowed them to sell it under them.

Like, the Half-Life 2 Zombie on these forums was none profit, and alright as long as nobody used it in a commercial game.

So, I believe your alright, if Microsoft or Bungie bugs you about it, tell them that It was a none profit project and legally you've done nothing wrong.

I believe you're alright, check out this site: www.theforce.net

It's a site stuffed FULL of Star Wars Fanfilms, as long as it's a none profit project, you are perfectly alright.

Edit: Check out this: http://www.fpscreator.com/pack11.html

Scroll down to MP 12 and you might see that it includes 6 Halo Spartans in it. The only difference in why they were allowed to sell it was they added a big backpack to it. So, you're completely safe.

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Posted: 21st May 2008 18:45
Ok thanks for the support everyone. I will be starting a new thread soon to contain ALL characters, rather than just one.

@i want to game

I'll send you an e-mail ASAP

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Posted: 21st May 2008 19:03
Unless you a great copier, you just imported Master Cheif from Combat evolved.



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Posted: 21st May 2008 19:06 Edited at: 21st May 2008 19:09
Well - visit photobucket hang on let me get a link

http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y134/marcsteene/

you can see in the previous pictures how it developed




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