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Zdrok
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Posted: 1st Jun 2008 23:32
Hello, forum-goers. When my new computer comes in this Wednesday, I'm planning to buy CS: S after I come back from my post-graduation trip on Saturday. I'd just like to ask a few questions, considering I'm a newbie at CS, but not to DOD: S.

1. What weapon loadouts do you recommend for a newcomer (i.e. CV47, 228 Compact, HE, Kevlar+Helmet {yes, I've played CS on XBOX})?
2. One of the primary weapon I may get for my first match is a FAMAS. Is that a good choice?
3. Does CS: S come with a "single-player" mode with bots so I can train myself?
4. See you on the field someday, I'm AmericanInfantry!!

Aertic
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Posted: 1st Jun 2008 23:45 Edited at: 1st Jun 2008 23:45
Good, buy it, and I`ll whipe the blood of the floor with you're chest...Uhm, actauly no I meant, urm...

1) m1a4/Deag/Kevlar+Helmet/H-E.
2)No, the famas is weak, its a last resort weapon for me.
3)Yes, there are, just go to new server, then modify the options.
4) I'll see you too, also you have DOD:S already? Whats you're steam acc? mines Tatters620.

--edit--

Nevermind I can tell what you're steam acc is already.

Sid Sinister
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Posted: 1st Jun 2008 23:49
Best learn all weapons as soon as you can just to be flexible. But you insist on a specific answer, probably a sub machine gun, the ak, and the deagle.

FAMAS? Ew. Most use AK's, some us M4's and if your good with the awp, the awp. The AK's first shot if tapped is like a lazer. It's a really good weapon.

Yes, what you do is set up a match, but just use bots instead. They are pretty decent I suppose, but I'd rather train with actual people instead because they tend to get headshots a little easy.

I stopped playing last summer because I graduated and didn't have the time anymore. On top of that, my clan was disbanded for various reasons and that really took the heart out of playing. We weren't the greatest, but we were a good community. Ah well, tis only a game.

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Zdrok
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 00:03
Thanks. Not playing DODS anymore (but I'll install it on my new PC), but I can imagine the gameplay's a bit similar. Personally, I think the AK and M4 are a bit overrated, but still could be good weapons. I'd rather use more non-noobish guns (guns that noobs never use) like the FAMAS, .228, M249, etc. Personally I'd also use the P90 as I hear it's very good. If anyone else has more tips and tactics, feel free to post as I may need them on the road to mastering CS and becoming...oh, what do the kids say these days? 1337, that's it.

puppyofkosh
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Adding you to friends...
Yea, I used to love the famas, I was a pretty good shot, so 1 burst headshot = dead. But yea go for something else. Yea, they are overrated but the main thing is they're well rounded...

SunnyKatt
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 00:17
I played source for a bit - but then I went and played power struggle on crysis online. Now that's the only online shooter I played. Strategy + FPS + multiplayer = happiness.

dark coder
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 00:54
Quote: "I'd rather use more non-noobish guns (guns that noobs never use) like the FAMAS, .228, M249, etc."


You mean guns that noobs use, I've done many scrims and have been playing CS/CSS for many years, I'd be amazed if you see anyone using a famas/228/M249 etc in any serious matches, simply because they are a waste of money and not good for any serious games. I will personally stick with my USP as a CT but buy a deagle as T if it's the first round, or if I have a lot of spare cash, otherwise I'll stick with the glock. If I have the money I'd get an AK/M4 simply because they are accurate, don't cost too much and do a nice amount of damage. If I can't afford it then I'd get an MP5 or deagle, if I'm on a map like Dust2/Office I will get an AWP if I can afford it, especially as a CT simply because they are good maps for sniper cover, you can call them noob weapons all you like but using the others will put you at a disadvantage.

Depending on the map and money I have, I will buy at least one flash and a defuse kit, if I have more I'll buy a second and then a nade. As for the rest, it's not really something you can instruct over a forum, you just need practice. Things like being able to hear very well, which requires good headphones(never use external speakers), and when you hear something you need to be able to identify very quickly where the sound is coming from, even when being shot at from behind at close range you do have a chance at killing them. If I hear running behind a wall and there's no allies there then I'd most likely throw a flash then pop out and kill them, when hearing running it's important to walk so they don't hear you, but this depends on the situation.

If you plan to be of any use in a game you need to master sniping(as well as close-quaters combat), as easy as it may sound with an AWP, due to it being almost always 1 hit kill, against another good sniper it's very hard. The main thing is to just learn all the maps, and I don't just mean learn your way around but watch other good players and see where they hide, see how they attack etc, it isn't easy. If you think you're ready and that people using M4s are still noobs with no skill then find yourself a mix scrim against good players and see how you do :p, in comparison pub players are almost always far worse, mainly due to the lack of coordination between them.

Zdrok
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 01:15
I don't plan to be a sniper, but I'll just train sniping anyways.

draknir_
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The AK is the most powerful automatic in the game, but it takes skill to aim and control it. Avoid spraying.

The AWP is the most powerful weapon in the game, period. Every hit is a kill, except a shot to the foot/lower leg.

The FAMAS isn't as weak as a lot of people think, the burst spray is very useful when you're playing at range, but the other guns outclass it generally.

Have fun
Sid Sinister
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 01:40
Quote: "The AK is the most powerful automatic in the game, but it takes skill to aim and control it. Avoid spraying."


In addition that, learn which guns recoil which way and move your mouse the opposite direction with spraying. It will help you with your shot.

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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 07:38
In CS:S you pull down with the AK when spraying at close range at long range you use a 3 rounds burst just tap the fire button at a quick pace and boom head shot, Mac10, tmp, deagle ,p228 are good weapons once learned correctly most people would say they are not but they are rifle noobs

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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 08:25 Edited at: 2nd Jun 2008 08:29
I agree with you that all of those weapons are useful, except Mac10. Its terribly inaccurate and only any good at close range. TMP is reasonably accurate if you know how to control it, even at a range, but its weak. I am talking about scrim/match experience though, where most players know how to use the guns. So if you join some terrible noob public server Im sure you can get kills with the mac10
Mr Makealotofsmoke
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 10:19 Edited at: 2nd Jun 2008 10:20
1. Id go with M4A1, HE, Kev+Helm (screw the deagle, piece of S#^@)
2. Famas = Fail. Its good sometimes but 95% of the time it sucks.
3. Only if you make your own lan server like 2nd post said
4. Orly? I dont think so since im in Australia

If you feel like pwning some noobs get the Scout or M3 and a USP.

lol im compiling a map i made as i type


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Zdrok
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 14:19
What about the P90? Is that a nice gun to use?

Aertic
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 18:50
Its nice, but it runs out of ammo fast due to its fire rate.
I'll go for the standard pistol actualy, cuz im so pro, I beat you all.
*gets "T-Bagged" by a noob*
OMFG! That haxor!



I'll actualy choose: mp5/any of them black pistols?/H-e/flashx2/smoke/kevlar+helmlet.

Luciferia
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 18:58 Edited at: 2nd Jun 2008 22:01
I never understood kevlar plus helmet as your health seems to deplete faster than the armour. Does it absorb a percentage of the damage or what?

Aside from that, do not do what everyone always does and go for the machine gun. It is wildly inaccurate and very low on the damage end. Get Ak47 or m16 and flash/He grenade and adesert eagle for pistol.

(For anyones interest, my steam name is archeon1 )
Aertic
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 19:06
it asorbs damage from bullets to the chest and head, not legs, but not fall damage, it asorbs some damage but not all, you're health will still drop if hit in the chest, but not by much, it would be considered as a hurting flare of pain, or; a bad bruise/graze, but not a blood wound, until you drop below 90.

Keo C
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 19:58
So, AI, what's your Steam name? Mine is the same as my forum name.
I'd recommend a UMP45 or P90 if you can't control your sprays,
My personal outfit for CT is M4A1/228/Kevlar/HE/Smoke.
T would be AK/228/Kevlar/HE/Flash.


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UnderLord
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 21:53
Quote: "even at a range, but its weak"


Yes weak indeed, but i'll have to demo a TMP sniping session for you...its funny to see as people start to think you hack once you kill them from long a with a tmp on dust2

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Zdrok
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 21:58
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....AmericanInfantry, obviously.

My new PC may be coming in tomorrow so I might get CSS later tomorrow or Wednesday. I'll get ready to own your *profanity* with my P90, 5-7 and HE!

UnderLord
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 21:59 Edited at: 2nd Jun 2008 21:59
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If your a first timer to CS:S then good luck just remember to aim for the gut, for the head shot....

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Zdrok
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 22:09
Right.

I remember in the XBOX version of CS, there was a map called cs_bank. Is that in CSS?

Keo C
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 22:32
Don't use a P90 and a Five-SeveN. They steal bullets from each other.


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Zdrok
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2008 22:41
How about a P90 and a USP?
M4A1 & 228?
CV47 & .40 Dual Elites?

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Quote: "Dual Elites"

no.

I go M4/Ak and then a deagle, flash and kevlar.

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Counter strike is a great game..but steam on the other hand...

Ive got a long story of why steam sucks and ruins ur pc

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dark coder
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Quote: "Ive got a long story of why steam sucks and ruins ur pc"


I'd love to hear it because I think steam is great, I've never had any problems with it, I'm sure when it was first launched there were some issues but as long as you have a net connection it's far simpler than having 50 game discs lying around, buying games is easy, updating them is easy, running them is easy, so clearly you just fail at using it and just jump on with the, now small minority that seems to hate everything to do with steam despite probably never using it.

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it destroyed me and a few of my friends pcs...I used if from basically when it came out..i played CS 1.5 and to continute playing you had to download steam and play 1.6 cause 1.5 servers shutdown....few other of my friends had this problem too...steam wont even delete of one of my friends pc...to get my pc back to normal(it was my old pc when steam just came out) i had to put all our stuff on disks and them reset the whole pc...very annoying

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Aertic
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Quote: "cs_bank"

No, that was one of the 7 eclusive maps, I miss fastline.

Oolite
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Part of me is surprised that people take CS:S this seriously, i remember when people just used to sit down for an hour and blast anyone and everything with anything.

Also, steam has never messed up with me, the only thing that annoys me is when i installed half life 2 and had to go through an hour of downloading and decrypting.

Aertic
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I agree there, but some people like to game with "fame", and be the best of the best, which I can see me being, but I like to game, i could say harcore gaming.

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Usually I just buy the guns that look cool, but after a while, I realise their names, so now I'm hardcore(lol).

Aertic
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lol, want to play kosh?

5Louiz
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CS.. Good times those. My favourite weapons were an accurate pistol and a fast rifle. I killed like a whore with those. The only weapons that I disliked were the shotgun, the grenades and a very heavy machine gun.

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You guys make me lol. I play CS:S for fun with whatever guns or items I feel like using. Many times it just ends up being a TMP or a MAC10 cause its so fun to pwn people with the crappiest guns

Ok, well most of the time I get pwned in CS but sometimes I'll get that 4 or 5 kill streak with a Mac10 with like 2 or 3 random headshots and it's oh so rewarding.

Mr Makealotofsmoke
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is it just me that buys usp's when on t?


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Why not play seriously? I play for money prizes at LANs in Holland with my team.

As for steam: I frickin love it. Never had any trouble with it.
Mr Makealotofsmoke
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steam is good if you have a fast-ish internet


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Aertic
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Steam crashes on some games, like warrock...I like warrrock because its like how I like games.
Crahsed 13 times in a row, not even one game.
But xfire is also nice, also I buy usp's sometimes.

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Quote: "I killed like a whore with those. "

That powerful huh? Lol.


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Posted: 3rd Jun 2008 20:17
Quote: "TMP or a MAC10 cause its so fun to pwn people with the crappiest guns"


You too? Hahaha, i did that when i played 1.5 with the tmp back then it was more fun, now its just better graphics with the same level of fun...

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My new rig just came in today, took all of 20 minutes to hook up. Unfortuneately, my dad doesn't want to drill a hole down into the dining room (since my bedroom is above the DR) so he's gonna call Comcast and see what they can do, so no CSS until God knows when.

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Hmmm yes yes....i see....

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Quote: "That powerful huh? Lol."


ahaaaaha

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I gave up with CS:S a long time ago, its just way too hard to play IMO, and there are so many that have the ability to head-shot you the split second you are visible.

I always played DEDust2, which was my favourite level just for the visuals. I just hated the inevitable flash-bang every 3 or 4 seconds around every corner.

I don't mind dying, but waiting for a whole new game to start is agony, especially when you get killed fairly soon after the match starts.

I think I'll stick with UT2004/UT3, where everyone eventually gets their moment of glory (tank/leviathan spawns by you) and the strategy of precise aiming is useless

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I agree with JF. Unreal Tournament is my fav Online game.


Zdrok
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Posted: 16th Jun 2008 21:14 Edited at: 16th Jun 2008 21:28
Apologies for the bump, been around two weeks with no Internet...

Ordered a wireless Internet card for my computer (will post specs later) and it will arrive either later today or tomorrow via the good ol' UPS truck. I'm also asking for people's Steam names so I can add you to my Friends list when I get my Internet hooked up. Mine, again, is AmericanInfantry. Will edit this post with system specs soon.

Specs for my rig:
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual
Core Processor 5200+
2.59 GHz, 1.87 GB of RAM

Keo C
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Well mine is Keo12. Can't wait to play. ^_^


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I added you, my name is puppyofkosh...it says you are spymaster or something?

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Feel free to add me, I'm jerico2day on steam. Although I don't have it installed atm, also, I'm a total newb to the game

But I'd be up for a few rounds sometime


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