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Pus In Boots
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Posted: 14th Jun 2008 01:14
"The animate existence or period of animate existence of an individual" -dictionary.com

What do you think the meaning of life is? Be as serious or as silly as you like, but remember one thing: All forms of life serve only to be subserviant to pus in boots and to adhere to his every whim with unquestionable immediacy.

(Also, the first person who says "42" gets a slap on the wrist.)

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Posted: 14th Jun 2008 01:27 Edited at: 14th Jun 2008 01:27
math.Round(41.99999999999999)



EDIT: I still don't know what 42 has to do with the meaning of life...

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[Silly version]

There needs to be some way to make me! Thus, life exists.


[Serious version]

The same as the meaning of a rock. Simple spheres were created out of fatty chemicals and within reproducing polymers emerged. They reproduce, and evolution begins To me "meaning of life" means that the universe was designed just for us, but I don't like to be that arrogant about Earth life. We aren't that cool

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I would answer, but it would bring up religion so I can't.

Anyway, I think we exists because a clowns need someone to hunt.

I allways afraided from a clowns. aww..
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Quote: "I still don't know what 42 has to do with the meaning of life..."


Ah, but that is the ANSWER... what is the QUESTION?

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Posted: 14th Jun 2008 01:55
Why shouldn't we say 42, exactly?

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Big bang! No! Some guy come down from a lovely paradise. And made a hell called earth.


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Whatever the meaning of life is, you're not going to find it on an internet forum geared towards game creation. Try #meaningoflife.

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Quote: "Whatever the meaning of life is, you're not going to find it on an internet forum geared towards game creation. Try #meaningoflife."


This particular board isn't all about game creation. Are we not allowed to start threads about what musical instruments we play or something because it's not about game creation? Come on now.

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The meaning of life is to survive as long as possible, bring new life into the world and enjoy it as much as you can along the way.

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I believe it is self-actualization.

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Posted: 14th Jun 2008 02:39
Meaning?


I fail at life. No, really.
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Posted: 14th Jun 2008 02:41
The meaning of life is to end it quickly.

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Posted: 14th Jun 2008 02:57
BiggAdd basically summed it up for us, that is my opinion of what the MoL is as well.

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Quote: "This particular board isn't all about game creation."


It pretty much is about that general area. Also I meant you're not going to find it on the Internet, much less a forum about game creation.

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Posted: 14th Jun 2008 03:20
Quote: "I still don't know what 42 has to do with the meaning of life..."

Remove yourself from Geek Culture, sir!


I personally like Rico's answer is the time-honored classic motion picture Judge Dredd. "The Meaning of Life? It ends."

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In all seriousness, I believe the meaning of life is to find meaning.


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Quote: "In all seriousness, I believe the meaning of life is to find meaning."


Humanity has been here 2 million years.. Life itself has been here about 4 billion years. A bit unfair for all the life that has to die that doesn't get to find out the meaning before we discover it. I feel especially sorry for plants which aren't conscious and not able to find meaning. Plus, once we have found meaning, what do we do with ourselfs after that?

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Quote: "A bit unfair for all the life that has to die that doesn't get to find out the meaning before we discover it."


Sadly, yes, but its better then just being handed some generic meaning for all of humanity.

Quote: "Plus, once we have found meaning, what do we do with ourselfs after that?"


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Quote: "Sadly, yes, but its better then just being handed some generic meaning for all of humanity."


Depends. I personally don't believe in an actual "meaning", but I do believe that we are allowed to make them up - meaning's like BigAdd's for instance. Besides, the "meaning to find the meaning" is a bit circular; it'll never end


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Oh cmon, you're acting as if we've already found the meaning

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Posted: 14th Jun 2008 05:23 Edited at: 14th Jun 2008 05:26
What does meaning mean? The purpose of something, how something ends up. So the meaning of life is death!
But life is a cycle, an end is a new beginning, and so the creation of new life is also the meaning. The meaning of life is sex!

or... life is just movement of energy, the fact that we are contained in a body and all these energy movements are interconnected gives us consciousness: one energy (eg light) feeding into other energies (our eyes and brain) allow these energies to be connected so multiple effects are felt from the same cause. It is the constant flow of energies that makes us appear conscious.

I just made both those theories up :p

is energies a real word? i like it

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Posted: 14th Jun 2008 11:41
I agree with BiggAdd, but think about it, if we were told that say, we weren't really the beloved creation of an extremely benevolent entity, and were infact just the result of a group of Amoebas acccidentally joining together, then the world would freak, I mean, it'd be like that monk who commited suicide after reading The Da-Vinci Code, but on a much larger scale......

I mean, maybe that's what Douglas Adams was referring to when he said that the world would end if both the question and answer to life were found.....

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Posted: 14th Jun 2008 13:33 Edited at: 14th Jun 2008 13:34
Quote: "In all seriousness, I believe the meaning of life is to find meaning."


But that means you could waste your life trying to find it's meaning instead of living it. If the meaning of life is to find the meaning of life, than life is just one big cat-and-mouse game. (Although I prefer my theory that we were all crafted as chess pieces- pawns, if you will- for God's big game night.

Me personally, there are to many explanations for why we inhabit this earth, so any one theory wouldn't serve the argument justice. When you cut out all the crap, we can boil things down to the sole reason we are here. The sole reason HOW we are here. Reproduction and evolution. You could say it's to "find love" or to "leave a legacy" but we wouldn't have these notions if we didn't reproduce and evolve to the point where our minds and the society we live in are evolved and educated enough to make these assumptions. So if we continue to reproduce and evolve, future generations will be smarter and more mature and they will continue to allow their future generations to benefit from the social and mental benefits they will bestow upon the earth BECAUSE they are evolved enough to be able to even guess the meaning of life.

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This topic makes me depressed.


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Posted: 14th Jun 2008 17:16
If you like, we could discuss the meaning of death. What's the opposite of depressed?

Just kidding. Remember, we can take this with a pinch of salt. No need to get too philosophical.

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Am I the only one that believes in self-actualization? If it is not the meaning of life, then it is at least the reason to continue living it.

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I second that. As individuals, we should strive to fulfill our own dreams and enjoy the time we have. This doesn't discard my biological theory, but still...

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The meaning of life certainly isn't sitting around trying to figure out what it is lol
total opposite to what someone else said!

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Posted: 14th Jun 2008 18:30 Edited at: 14th Jun 2008 18:33
Grandma, what's self-actualization?



Quote: "if we were told that say, we weren't really the beloved creation of an extremely benevolent entity, and were infact just the result of a group of Amoebas acccidentally joining together, then the world would freak"


I agree, but I wish it wasn't this way. We didn't end up the way we are "accidentally" exactly (accidentally as in shaking around some matter and hope to get life out of it), but we are lucky to have our conscience and our senses.

To me, I'd much rather be the eyes, ears and intellect of the universe rather than the creation of something we can't see by definition. We can see the universe (which in the broadest terms created us, but without intent to do so), but atleast we can study it, learn it, and appreciate it, unlike any other form of matter.

"We are a way for the Cosmos to know itself" - Carl Sagan

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When Grandma talks about self actualisation, I believe he is referring to an existential interpretation, that is; a life has no meaning other than that which you give it.

When Satre talks about the soul, he talks about a person existing first, before they truly have essence. It is though his growth and environment that he becomes 'him'. So when talking about 'self actualisation' in this way, we're talking about you becoming yourself, to be the best 'You', you can be.

Whether there's a purpose to life in general, I don't know, but I doubt it very much, I do however subscribe to the Carl Sagan quote Zotoaster posted (in a ponderous hopeful manner).

Whether there's a purpose to a persons' life, certainly, but only in human terms. To assume that we are the gears in the great cosmic machine, or all part of a plan is naive, vain and ridiculous all at once. Really we and all living beings are just a curiosity of the interactions of atoms and particles. That said, we're one hell of a by product.

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Quote: "a life has no meaning other than that which you give it."


Then I guess that is what I believe. Empirically there is no other way. Sagan put it best IMHO.

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The meaning of life is ________

severity.

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The meaning of life is somthing that varies between people.

The meaning of MY life is to achieve. I don't really care about making new ones of myself, and I don't care how long I get to live.

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Quote: "I mean, it'd be like that monk who commited suicide after reading The Da-Vinci Code, but on a much larger scale......"


Please tell me that didn't happen. Da Vinci Code was great, but it was fiction


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Quote: "Please tell me that didn't happen. Da Vinci Code was great, but it was fiction "


Are you kidding? I'm not going to go into what happened when I found out Jedis didn't exist

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Hehe, it was considered alot more than fiction......

The whole Jesus was getting it on with Mary Magdalen thing, that apparently ruined the guys image of Christianity.....

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Yes, self-actualization is what Manic said. Be all that you can be, and all that deep stuff.

Quote: "Are you kidding? I'm not going to go into what happened when I found out Jedis didn't exist"


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Turn away Grandma! Self-actualize yourself! Jedis exist if you want them to!

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Quote: "Da Vinci Code was great, but it was fiction"


Blatantly and to think people went around trying to prove it...


The meaning of life - well self-actualization sounds good. But I say does life have any other meaning than what you give it? (There's the religious aspect if you believe in god or multiple gods) But if life wasn't created by a divine entity and we live without design, then really is there any meaning to the existence of intelligent life? Well no, but your life and the lives of other people, of course they have meaning - but each individual meaning is different because we individually make our lives meaningful. Where any external 'being' comes into play it's how other people around you effect your life.

Searching for the meaning of life is really then a lost cause, because you're trying to find something absolute in something that relative and finite.

Unless, you mean Monty Python's Meaning of Life, you can find that on Amazon.

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Quote: "Blatantly and to think people went around trying to prove it..."

I seen the Code! In my very eyes! IT said...
"100101001001010-Da-Vinci Wuz Ere-10010101"


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Quote: "But if life wasn't created by a divine entity and we live without design, then really is there any meaning to the existence of intelligent life? Well no"


That's the part where you give it one.

@ Zotoaster

I think you mis-interpreted the meaning somehow.

self-ac·tu·al·i·za·tion [self-ak-choo-uh-luh-zey-shuhn, self-ak-]
–noun Psychology. the achievement of one's full potential through creativity, independence, spontaneity, and a grasp of the real world.

There's no hippie "wishing" involved. Also, jedis do exist. I've seen them. They wear suits and you can often see them on TV, doing mindtricks on the masses.

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Quote: "Please tell me that didn't happen"

Ok, it didn't happen - probably.
The guy had suffered for 12 years with depression and was on medication - he attempted suicide two years prior to his successful attempt. He *might* have been reading the book prior to his death, but no-one will actually confirm or deny that.

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Quote: "Quote: "Blatantly and to think people went around trying to prove it..."
I seen the Code! In my very eyes! IT said...
"100101001001010-Da-Vinci Wuz Ere-10010101""


Ah Cleverly Da Vinci saw that binary would be an important element in the future and that its usage would be looked upon in the information age where people would be able to handle the truth he kept hidden and so he put the first missing clue cleverly disguised as binary coding. Clever man Da Vinci and by Yoda's beard I think you're onto something!

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That's the part where you give it one. "


Yup, then I guess me and self-actualisation get along greatly, perhaps, he, you and I could go out and get some tea one time?

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on the serious side my father who happens to be a minister feels that the meaning of life is for a man to stand up and walk on the path that God has set for him. I think the meaning of life is fulfill your potential. By that I mean be the best at what ever it is u r.

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Like Sepp said earlier if we are all the spawn of amoebas from a pond of ooze life is pointless. In that note we should do whatever we want when we want. Utter chaos could ensue.

No. I choose to believe something more than that. I believe we were created by an intelligent being. He has a purpose for us all. We all need to find that purpose and do our best to live up to it.

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I believe in a religious reason why were here.

Can't go any further.


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Agent Dink, just because we weren't put here intentionally doesn't mean we have no point. Here's a thought: why is there a rock sitting there outside my window? What's the point in it? Well, there isn't, it's just a rock. The world would function exactly the same without it.

Nobody has specifically given any use for that rock, but humans have picked it up and said to themselfs, "hey, I can use this to break open by coconut".

You'll have to go a long way before you find someone who thinks the sole purpose of life in "utter chaos"

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@Dink:So you believe this is god?



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You guys lets not try and get this thread locked. It's too interesting, let's not turn it into a religious battle.

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