It's not so much Ermes comments being bad, if you understood what he ment.
and therein actually lies the problem ... and the fact he wont apologise despite his words & actions.
i mean his first post was oki, he didn't believe there were any female programmers and he just wanted proof there is some - although personally i'm sick of those kinds of posts thats oki.
(before i joined in here)
he then goes onto (and agreeing with Geri's comments which were quite simply 100% offensive) saying that he didn't feel that there are women programmers capable and they should remain in the jobs that he believe is usual for them.
(so far we have him singling out women, belittleing them & saying that it is unusual for them to even be near computers let alone programming)
do i really need to go on?
i mean if your joking around with the joke
"three people are in a life, Santa, a clever woman and a clever man. there's a tenner on the floor who picks it up?
the clever man as the other two don't exist!"
then people KNOW i'm joking, but i would deservidely get some stick about it because it is pretty offensive.
i'm not going to deny there are more guys on the forums which do DB/DBP ... because there are, however to say that it is almost totally guys is bull. And to claim that just because people arn't on the forums they don't use DB/DBP is also bull.
non of this really is about "real-life" experiences, but on that fact. I believe say a fashion designer, doesn't know more about real-life women using computers.
that is like saying that frank spenser knows more about fixxing a car than a mechanic...
people who are around the industry will meet people in the industry who do this and are not make. i've been to a good few colleges - Digipen for example doesn't seems to have a majority either way, it has just as many female students as male.
however, the point made here is that perhaps there are less female users - and do you seriously believe you will entise MORE female users here by showing them that this community is made up of grossly sexist men?
there are 4 women alone this week who have put DB/DBP away and probably arn't going to touch it for a while because of how the community is being.
i don't care if being "sexist" is nature... all i care about is trying to give an equal opertunity to people to come and learn DB/DBP without a worry of being harassed for who they are rather than thier abilities.
you'd think in the one place where people can't see you to judge you on what you look like you'd be free from the prudices.
but sadly that isn't the case, while there are a few bad apples there to spoilt the entire crop.
i want more women here, i honest do, i think getting them interested into programming and making things is great.
and i don't expect the guys not to be a little oogly, but that said - we should give them more room until it is a more common place occurace.
after all when you teach you kid to ride a bike, you have to make sure they keep thier balance until eventually you let go and they cycle all on thier own.
there are very few women active here mate, and we shouldn't be scaring them away or all leaching all over a new one whenever they arrive. We should be just being supporting to make it seem friendly so that we can have more feel safe actually being here and that they are actually wanted for more than just a rolling the hey from the adolesents.
that shouldn't be too much to ask should it?
