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Geek Culture / What is there to live for?

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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 20:05
I realised something today; just what am I living for? I'm working hard at college so I can get a job I can work hard at so I can have a lot of cash and no time in which to spend it... but frankly why bother? What is there really left to live for now except to watch history repeat itself, the world slowly fall apart and resources dribble to nothing? Some might say "love", but I've seen so many marriages and relationships fall apart that I don't think that counts either. Years back, there were technologies to be advanced and invented, art to be perfected. But everywhere I turn, whatever I want to do others have already done already a lot better. Every new song that comes along sounds the same as the last, every new invention is a rearrangement of the old.

So, what do you think is worth living for?

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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 20:09 Edited at: 10th Nov 2008 20:14
I believe life is to be enjoyed, nothing more. So enjoy yourself.

I do ask myself the same question every day though.

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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 20:20
I live because im to scared to suicude.

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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 20:38
I don't like to get very zen with these things; technically I believe life is to spread our genes...


... but, seeing as part of that process involves me being conscious, I might as well use it for something.

Look at all these really rich people like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett. Any day they could easily retire and spend the rest of their lives living out their money, but every day they just go back to work. Me personally? I live for butterflies - the nervous feeling you get in your stomach when you are about to do something new and exciting!

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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 20:41 Edited at: 10th Nov 2008 20:42
I live for hope. Hope is everything. Without hope, you would emo-yourself. That hope can be anything you want it to be of course.

Hope for a better life, hope for a soulmate, hope for duke nukem forever. If you got everything you need, then go for ben's philosophy. If that feels too "empty" for you, then get actively involved in stuff you care about. Make the world a better place for you and your children and yadayada etc.

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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 20:44
Quote: "If that feels too "empty" for you, then get actively involved in stuff you care about."

I meant to say that I believe life is only worth living if you get some enjoyment out of it. I didn't mean you need to be out partying 24/7.

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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 20:46
I think George Carlin said it best!

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“The most unfair thing about life is the way it ends. I mean, life is tough. It takes up a lot of your time. What do you get at the end of it? A Death! What's that, a bonus? I think the life cycle is all backwards. You should die first, get it out of the way. Then you live in an old age home. You get kicked out when you're too young, you get a gold watch, you go to work. You work forty years until you're young enough to enjoy your retirement. You do drugs, alcohol, you party, you get ready for high school. You go to grade school, you become a kid, you play, you have no responsibilities, you become a little baby, you go back into the womb, you spend your last nine months floating...


...and you finish off as an orgasm.”"


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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 20:51
Quote: "I meant to say that I believe life is only worth living if you get some enjoyment out of it. I didn't mean you need to be out partying 24/7."

I didn't mean it as "one or the other".

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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 20:53
Quote: "Make the world a better place"


...that being the problem. I don't want children. And how could the world be made a better place? Just what can one man do in today's society in which everything seems to have been done? No matter how hard you try, you'll never outdo Beethoven or Van Gogh or whatever.

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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 20:56
my personal beliefs mean that i live for God but i wont talk about it here cos it aint allowed

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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 20:59 Edited at: 10th Nov 2008 21:01
Quote: "Years back, there were technologies to be advanced and invented, art to be perfected.

No matter how hard you try, you'll never outdo Beethoven or Van Gogh or whatever."

That's a very ignorant statement. I'm sure people thought the same thing 100 years ago and now look how far we've come. You live to experience pleasure and to better or advance the human race. Do you never have fun? Have you ever loved someone? Have you ever been happy? Have you ever accomplished something? Do you enjoy those feelings? Yes, so that's why you live.


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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 21:01
Quote: "Years back, there were technologies to be advanced and invented, art to be perfected."

I'm not sure of the exact date, but I believe that some time back in the early 1900's, the head of the US patent office resigned, declaring that there was nothing left to invent.
Quite obviously, he was wrong.

If the good lord had intended us to go outside or have a social life, he wouldn't have invented the internet.
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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 21:05
I live because I am. Why would I need more reason besides realizing that I am, unlike the billions of potential humans that die off every day?


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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 21:05
Honestly, no matter how emo this sounds, technically, we sort of live to die. We live, we die. The end.
Although obviously you will want to make the best out of the short time you've got on this planet but in the end you'll still die.
I just tend to live because I want to get through school and eventually get a good enough job to make me able to feed myself. If I get to that point though I don't know what I would live for.


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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 21:07
I'm not saying that nothing new is being invented, I'm saying that it all seems to be the same. Just modifications or adaptions of what was there already.

Quote: "A) Do you never have fun?
B) Have you ever loved someone?
C) Have you ever been happy?
D) Have you ever accomplished something?
E) Do you enjoy those feelings?"


A) Occasionally. But it always seems hollow afterwards.
B) No.
C) In short instances of delusion.
D) Sadly not. Even what I have accomplished has been accomplished by the majority already and therefore it's not really that much of an accomplishment.
E) Not a whole lot. At the time when they happen, yes, but the low afterwards is naff.

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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 21:07 Edited at: 10th Nov 2008 21:12
First off:

Quote: "Hope for a better life, hope for a soulmate, hope for duke nukem forever."


I lol'd.

But, on a more serious note, I think Grandma is right for the most part. Hope should be a major driving force in your life. As for what Benjamin said: he's correct, as long as he doesn't mean the "party like hell" kind of enjoying life; rather the "make something of your life, and enjoy that" kind of enjoying life.

As for a personal answer, the AUP prevents me from answering. v.v

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Quote: "I'm not saying that nothing new is being invented, I'm saying that it all seems to be the same. Just modifications or adaptions of what was there already."


To quote King Solomon:

Quote: "9 What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun. 10 Is there anything of which one can say, "Look! This is something new"? It was here already, long ago; it was here before our time. 11 There is no remembrance of men of old, and even those who are yet to come will not be remembered by those who follow. 12 I, the Teacher, was king over Israel in Jerusalem. 13 I devoted myself to study and to explore by wisdom all that is done under heaven. What a heavy burden God has laid on men! 14 I have seen all the things that are done under the sun; all of them are meaningless, a chasing after the wind.

-Ecclesiastes 1:9-14 NIV"


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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 21:13
Quote: "Make the world a better place"

Quote: "...that being the problem. I don't want children. And how could the world be made a better place?"

How couldn't it?

Quote: "Just what can one man do in today's society in which everything seems to have been done?"

There's a whole lot more to do, and with that attitude, nothing would get done.

Quote: "No matter how hard you try, you'll never outdo Beethoven or Van Gogh or whatever."

It's not about being the best. It's achieving your potential and be proud of yourself for it. That will come a long way to happyness, yay!

And there's more to it than any art-related goals. What about politics? Or something grand unlike "changing the world" with your vote for the next [country] idol?

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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 21:16 Edited at: 10th Nov 2008 21:17
I live for God mainly. At my pivotal age, I am looking for my full time career for the rest of my life. I don't feel God just wants me to go to church and tell my co-workers about him. I feel I need an intense or out stretched job. I am thinking about moving out of the country or starting my own buisness in 4-5 years. Once, I acquire more maturity and knowledge.

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Quote: "starting my own buisness in 4-5 years"


Always best to start early IMHO.

I'm in 1st year uni, and I'm already going about making my own record label for local bands. I'm doing it because I think it'll be a more fun and exciting way to make some spending money rather than work in Tesco's, and that it'll give me some experience in business which I can use in the future, but above all, because it's fun and exhilarating!

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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 21:22
Quote: "rather the "make something of your life, and enjoy that" kind of enjoying life."

Yeah, that's what I mean.

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Quote: "Yeah, that's what I mean."


Good.

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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 21:34 Edited at: 10th Nov 2008 21:35
Quote: " hope for duke nukem forever "


Stuff hope, I wish... just messing (not about duke though).

Stop living in the future and start enjoying the present, going outside the box will open up your life to new things aswell, but guessing what your life's going to be like gets you no where, you can't possibly know. You say every new song that comes along sounds the same as the last, well invent a new sound then. Do whatever you can to enjoy life.

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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 21:48
I live for... I am confused for what I live for. My girlfriend is important, I like computers, writing is something I am extremely talanted of, but life still feels empty. Guess I will have to find my path sooner ot later.

Fact, I live. Fact, I will die. Fact, if I do not want my life to be invane, I cannot ly down and give up. So I continue. Have yet to find a reason to live, everyone has their own reason I guess, just have to find mine.

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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 21:48
Quote: "So, what do you think is worth living for?"


Ironically, look at life like a game that never ends!

There are unexpected, and expected events around every corner.

The path you choose decides your fate.

And its worth living for to see how well (or not) you play the game and how well (or not) you handled the obstacles.



But seriously, its worth living for by making sure the future generations benefit from your actions here in the present. Bringing happiness to youself and to those immediately around you is good enough reason for me.

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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 21:49
Quote: "well invent a new sound then"


As though it's that simple. What if there were no more sounds? And besides, I never did Music, how am I supposed to know how to make a "new sound"?


Quote: "And there's more to it than any art-related goals"


Art is the only thing I'm vaguely good at and I use the term good loosely.

I dunno, it just feels like I've come into a video game in the last ten minutes of play and so there's no adventure, nothing left to do. I could go over that hill over there, but what's the point? Somebody's already been over there and built exactly the same town that's here with a different name. Might be a little bigger, might be a little smaller. But it's near enough the same.

I've looked at similar questions on other sites and the answers are always "get a girl/boyfriend" but the ultimate result of that is children who would just end up in the same predicament as me. Or worse. After all, it can only get worse without rewriting the laws of physics from scratch.

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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 21:56 Edited at: 10th Nov 2008 22:00
Quote: "What is there really left to live for now except to watch history repeat itself, the world slowly fall apart and resources dribble to nothing? Some might say "love", but I've seen so many marriages and relationships fall apart that I don't think that counts either. Years back, there were technologies to be advanced and invented, art to be perfected. But everywhere I turn, whatever I want to do others have already done already a lot better. Every new song that comes along sounds the same as the last, every new invention is a rearrangement of the old."


You obviously don't listen to the right music You want something new and not rehashed, stop listening to MTV and the radio, and start checking out people like Philip Glass, Annie Gosfield, etc..

Love? Meh, lame. An idea given by romantics.

I've mentioned it a number of times before, but I think Sagan hit the nail on the head, "We are a way for the universe to know itself". So that's what I live for, to know the universe.

You want something new to do? Start working on AI, that fields still fresh. Math, there's always new discoveries to be made. Astronomy, new things to discover every day. And it's the one field of study where you don't need to compete with the big boys. There's so much stuff out there that we could all be staring into the sky in a cheap telescope and still discover something unseen before.

You're just glum cuz you're tired of what you're doing now. So drop it, and do something new.


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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 22:02
I've gotten feelings like yours before; to quote a Bright Eyes song -- "once we're gone, who's gonna care if we were ever here at all?" When we die very few of us are gonna be remembered. The only ones that will remember us are friends and relatives, and once they're dead any thoughts and memories of us will have vanished into thin air; what we did in our time no longer matters. So you should spend your life doing what makes YOU happy. If you aren't experiencing joy and fun, try making some changes to your life. Maybe you're spending too much time helping others and don't have time to enjoy your own life. Maybe you're not helping others enough and feel useless. Whatever it is try changing around your lifestyle and see what happens.

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The meaning of life is to love, hell, thats what we are here for, to multiply...
Seriously though, as long as i'm enjoying myself and making myself and other people happy, thats fine by me. You will have off days and you will be stressed, you will feel that life is not worth living sometimes, but at the end of the day, there is always something worth living for, it just takes time for you to realise that.
In reference to the music and stuff, there are plenty of new styles that are coming out, we are just going through a very specific phase as a species, try branching out your interests to other genres and interests, you will always be learning something new then.


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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 22:05
Quote: "Whatever it is try changing around your lifestyle and see what happens."


I almost smiled at that one.

Get up at 6.45 -> Go to college -> Get back at 6 -> Eat, wash, etc. for an hour and a half -> Do homework for at least an hour -> Go on here because I'm too tired to do anything else -> Sleep.

Like that ICT teacher who told me I needed to fit contingency time into a time plan which needed three extra hours just to get the basic work down.

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Quote: "Like that ICT teacher who told me I needed to fit contingency time into a time plan which needed three extra hours just to get the basic work down."


Have you stopped to think perhaps you're working too hard?


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Yes, often. But I still get behind in my work more frequently than the others in my groups. I never go out because I don't have the time or the energy at the same time. And anyway, I live in the absolute middle of nowhere. Even if I wanted to go somewhere it'd end up being a pub. And I don't drink.

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Quote: "Get up at 6.45 -> Go to college -> Get back at 6 -> Eat, wash, etc. for an hour and a half -> Do homework for at least an hour -> Go on here because I'm too tired to do anything else -> Sleep."


Wait, you go to school for 11 hours AND have an hour of home work everyday?!?!?!

Well in that case:
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Have you stopped to think perhaps you're working too hard?"


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Living in the middle of nowhere is never good for a teenager.

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Quote: "Wait, you go to school for 11 hours AND have an hour of home work everyday?!?!?!"


Well, not quite eleven hours but I spend a lot of time on the bus and waiting for college or a bus because the British public transport is useless and only runs every four hours.

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Nex, you seem very nihilistic and depressed. Are you really ignorant enough to think that there can be no more music, art, or technology? That is one of the stupidest and most ignorant statements I've ever heard.

Rap and hip-hop were invented within the last 20 years and music has been around for thousands of years.

We have just now learned to fly a hundred years ago, and when you compare it to thousands of years of technological advances it is nothing.

We have not even come close to the limits of technology, we've probably barely even begun to scratch the surface.

On a smaller scale, new and more innovative games are coming out all the time, trying things that haven't been done before. Heck, video games themselves didn't exist 50 years ago, and now they rival the movie industry and almost everyone plays them.

50 years ago computers were the size of a room, and now it seems like almost everyone has one in their pockets.

By love I don't necessarily mean romantically. What about your parents? Siblings? Aunts? Uncles? Friends? Do you have friends? Do you not have fun with them? Do you not enjoy spending time with them?


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Quote: "As though it's that simple. What if there were no more sounds? And besides, I never did Music, how am I supposed to know how to make a "new sound"?
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I didn't mean literally.

As for music, there's hundreds of sounds out there. Just look at jazz, there must be more than 10 style of jazz (example: bebop, cool jazz, hard bop, free jazz, swing, latin jazz, soul jazz, jazz fusion etc), before you judge you need to experience them all first.

Quote: "Somebody's already been over there and built exactly the same town that's here with a different name. Might be a little bigger, might be a little smaller. But it's near enough the same. "


Heres how I see it. I don't want it to feel the same so I could change the hill to a cliff, maybe build the town on the cliff... wait no, this could be a cliff face on the side of asteroid, are town has now become a space port. Let's just say there's an endless amount of possibilities.

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Quote: "Rap and hip-hop were invented within the last 20 years and music has been around for thousands of years.

We have just now learned to fly a hundred years ago, and when you compare it to thousands of years of technological advances it is nothing.

...

50 years ago computers were the size of a room, and now it seems like almost everyone has one in their pockets.

..

What about your parents? Siblings? Aunts? Uncles? Friends?

"


And rap/hip-hop is a rehash of things that have come before. The beats are often noticeably inspired by tribal music. Not to mention it's crap.

Look at the Boeing 737, quite old now. Compare it to the new superjumbo being rolled out by Airbus. Near enough the same shape and technology, just bigger.

Computers haven't changed much in the last few years. With the exception of the ASUS Eee, I don't think there's been any real innovation at all. It's just gotten bigger, and more powerful, and more power hungry. (nVidia 6 series compared to the 5 series, 7 compared to 6, 8 compared to 7, 9 compared to 8) Oh, and less reliable. (X360 anyone?)

My family members who haven't already died of cancer (both grandparents on one side gone, both on the other side on their way, another reason why I don't want children. It'd be irresponsible of me.) do little more than get on my nerves and bicker following their trainwreck marriages and subsequent divorces.

And oh no, I've turned all emo.

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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 22:29 Edited at: 10th Nov 2008 22:29
Quote: "My family members who haven't already died of cancer (both grandparents on one side gone, both on the other side on their way, another reason why I don't want children. It'd be irresponsible of me.) do little more than get on my nerves and bicker following their trainwreck marriages and subsequent divorces."


:/ I'm sure your grandparents had led meaningful and productive lives. Certainly no reason to not have children. Particularly when a cure will probably be in our reach within the next 100 years.

(And unless you're having sex with your sister, you may not even carry on those genes).


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NeX, it sounds to me like you're feeling the need to do something new, to establish some new form of art and contribute to society. Why? Just get a decent job, get married, enjoy life. You don't have to be outstanding to lead a fun life. Find a new hobby, something you enjoy, and develop it further. Or maybe take your art more seriously and try to develop that. You're sounding like, "I'm not gonna be the best, so why even try?" Well, I'll answer that: you should try, so that you can enjoy your life. You don't have to be the best at anything and you don't have to be remembered after your time on Earth. Just find a way to enjoy life.

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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 22:41 Edited at: 10th Nov 2008 22:42
Quote: "My family members who haven't already died of cancer (both grandparents on one side gone, both on the other side on their way, another reason why I don't want children. It'd be irresponsible of me.) do little more than get on my nerves and bicker following their trainwreck marriages and subsequent divorces."


* Since you didn't specify exact details, the cancer(s) may or may not anything to do with genetics

* If you're considering suicide or something (that's the gist I get from this thread) I highly recommend listening to this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cFhPl67r1E


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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 22:42
Quote: "And rap/hip-hop is a rehash of things that have come before. The beats are often noticeably inspired by tribal music. Not to mention it's crap."

I disagree, and I dislike most rap and hip-hop too, but it is a new form of music.

Quote: "Look at the Boeing 737, quite old now. Compare it to the new superjumbo being rolled out by Airbus. Near enough the same shape and technology, just bigger."

Look at the wright brothers first plane and the new airbus. Yeah, tiny improvement there.

Quote: "Computers haven't changed much in the last few years. With the exception of the ASUS Eee, I don't think there's been any real innovation at all. It's just gotten bigger, and more powerful, and more power hungry. (nVidia 6 series compared to the 5 series, 7 compared to 6, 8 compared to 7, 9 compared to 8) Oh, and less reliable. (X360 anyone?)
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Except for the fact that they double in speed or half their size every, what, 5 years? You are looking at a time span of a few years, maybe you should open your eyes and look at the last 50 years. If we've come from a room-sized computer that could do nothing more than add, subtract, divide, and multiply into something that can fit in the palm of your hand and run semi-realistic graphics, imagine how far we will go in another 50 years. If you don't kill yourself before then, wait 10 years and see just how much things have changed even in that time period. The internet didn't even exist 20 years ago, and now almost everyone is connected. I can communicate instantly with someone sitting in their living room across the world with no charge (other than the general internet fee), an idea that even 30 years ago probably seemed insane.

Quote: "My family members who haven't already died of cancer (both grandparents on one side gone, both on the other side on their way, another reason why I don't want children. It'd be irresponsible of me.) do little more than get on my nerves and bicker following their trainwreck marriages and subsequent divorces."

Well you're doing better than me, both of my granddads and great granddad died of heart attacks, my grandmother and great grandmother died of cancer, but I don't sit around and cry about it and complain about how useless life is. How does them dying from a common disease make you having children irresponsible? I hope that you don't have children with the attitude you have, because you seem to be unable to love or enjoy yourself in any way.


Grandma
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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 22:51
I would have to agree with Gil here.

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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 23:02 Edited at: 10th Nov 2008 23:02
Quote: "How does them dying from a common disease make you having children irresponsible?"


They looked after themselves and their family histories were not too rosy either.

I think it's about time I left the forum before I depress someone else.

Bye.

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Gil Galvanti
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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 23:06
Quote: "They looked after themselves and their family histories were not too rosy either.

I think it's about time I left the forum before I depress someone else.

Bye."

Yes, I'm sure that their lives were completely wasted and they did nothing with the time that they WERE alive. That's like saying "I'm going to die eventually, possibly from a genetic disease, so I shouldn't have kids because THEY could die when they are old from that disease too". You aren't depressing me, you're just bewildering me at how ignorant someone in our society can be.


NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 23:13 Edited at: 10th Nov 2008 23:15
As a final retort before I remove TGC from my link bar, one died at 38, one at 55. The other side has lived a bit longer but they're both under 75 and not looking too great. Whilst the latter have had half decent lives, you can't say the former have.

After all, life is supposed to begin at 40, not end at 38.

(btw, if anyone wants the darkSMASH source, one of the few things I ever came close to achieving, feel free to drop me a line at (three "N"s )(six "F"s)@yahoo.co.uk.)

I get the feeling I've annoyed a lot of people over the years and so this is farewell.

And once more, goodbye.

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AndrewT
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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 23:15
Okay NeX it's starting to sound like you just want sympathy. Every time we make a suggestion you just make an excuse not to do it. From what I've read up to this point it sounds like you need is a therapist. You sound depressed, helpless, and I don't think that a bunch of programmers are going to be able to help you.

Quote: "I think it's about time I left the forum before I depress someone else."


As Gil said you're not depressing us. However your attitude is extremely negative and I really think you need to talk to someone about this before it gets any worse. Good luck dealing with this problem of yours.

bitJericho
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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 23:28
Nex, you just need an adventure.

No need to leave 4evar!


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Gil Galvanti
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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 23:39
Quote: "As a final retort before I remove TGC from my link bar, one died at 38, one at 55. The other side has lived a bit longer but they're both under 75 and not looking too great. Whilst the latter have had half decent lives, you can't say the former have."

My grandparents died young too. And that is still 38 years that could have been filled with happiness and progress.

And goodbye, I have little sympathy for you, honestly, and your extremely negative and ignorant attitude will not be missed by me.

Quote: "I get the feeling I've annoyed a lot of people over the years and so this is farewell."

Actually I've had no problem with you until now.


Sasuke
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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 23:50 Edited at: 10th Nov 2008 23:54
Quote: "sig: No longer a member of this forum."


Wow, you really don't want to talk this though, it's like you've made up your mind before starting this thread. All I can say is I hope you sort this out, this really is an issue only you can work out in yourself. Finding your passion in life isn't always that easy, my friends, teachers at school and college say i'm a talented artist, I even won some award and got a piece put up in a gallery, but the funny thing is... I have no interest in art (well that kind of art, painting and that), i'm just very good at it. There are so many thing I like, how can I choose I uesd to tell myself. So I said stuff it, i'm doing them all no matter what it takes, so i'm now learning 3 languages, doing 17 sports, teaching a couple of those sports, free diving, training to be a tomb raider... why not, everything I have an interest in, i'm doing and you should be too.

Why are you leaving these forums anyway, it's like your trying to cut everyone off, do you have many friends cause it sound like you haven't put yourself out there enough if you have views like this. I thought you were a pretty cool guy round here, it's like something has drastically changed over night. Even if you've left the forums I hope your still reading theses posts cause it just shows that we are here only to support you, if only you would let us in.

Edit: sorry for the spelling mistakes, quickly wrote it while my toaster was starting to smoke, I really need a timer.

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soapyfish
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Posted: 10th Nov 2008 23:54 Edited at: 10th Nov 2008 23:57
Heyup Nex, I sent you a PM over at the eeeuser forums (it had nothing to do with this thread, I'd sent it a few days ago) but on that site there is no notification to let users know they have a new PM so I was guessing you hadn't noticed it yet.

I was waiting for you to post on TGC so I could contact you here regarding it (I don't know your msn and couldn't find any contact info on your deviantart profile) but now it looks like you aren't around anymore. If you do by any chance happen to check this thread one more time it would be groovy if you could help me out with my little eee related query as I don't know of anyone else who my question applied to. Thanks in advance.


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