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Geek Culture / Xbox live experience

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White Fang 12
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Posted: 19th Nov 2008 14:41
New Xbox dashboard today! the only good thing about it so far is the ablilty to use netflix, and put games to hardrive, but that will likly run out. The Avatars, they are complete rip offs of the wii's. At leaast make them look better then the wii's mii's, or let me carry a gun.

Well tell us what you think of the new xbox experience.

I'm a noob help will be accepted
RedneckRambo
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Posted: 19th Nov 2008 15:43
I downloaded it about ten minutes ago. It's actually really cool. The avatars are kind of silly but I actually enjoyed making my own. It's awesome being able to install games to your hard drive.

Unlike the original dashboard, everything moves much quicker.

All in all, it's an awesome update.

Richard Davey
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Posted: 19th Nov 2008 15:53
I prefer the new Avatars over Mii's any day, but they're still pointless unless you play a game with them in, and you're limited to just 3 of those right now, none of which are worth buying.

The speed of the new system is significantly better though, and the layout of the information too. It's much much cleaner. For that reason alone it was worth the couple minutes it spent installing it.

Oh and I like the new boot sequence too.

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Posted: 19th Nov 2008 18:37 Edited at: 19th Nov 2008 19:48
I think the NXE is brilliant. The new avatars are smashing!
Here is me:


Definitely feels like you have a new console. (I also installed GOW2 to my HDD, which solved all the "Disc Unreadable" errors I was getting.)

To get a .PNG of your avatar, type this into IE (It won't work in Safari or Firefox), replacing "GAMERTAG" with your gamertag.
http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/GAMERTAG/avatar-body.png

The link takes a few moments before an image is generated.



Richard Davey
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Posted: 19th Nov 2008 19:25
Ah you genius BigAdd! I have been totally unable to play GTA IV because of the constant crashes reading from the disc, but of course now I can install it and this will solve my problems totally - nice one

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Posted: 19th Nov 2008 19:50
Quote: "Ah you genius BigAdd! I have been totally unable to play GTA IV because of the constant crashes reading from the disc, but of course now I can install it and this will solve my problems totally - nice one"

Hopefully you can get it onto the HDD alright. I had to have a few attempts getting it on, due to the disc read errors occurring during the read process.
After giving the disc a thorough clean, I finally managed to write it to the HDD.


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Posted: 19th Nov 2008 19:54 Edited at: 19th Nov 2008 19:55
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Frankie Pawnage5
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Posted: 19th Nov 2008 20:45 Edited at: 19th Nov 2008 22:52
I got up at 5 in the morning to see what it was like, and to be honest, i would've rather slept for the rest of the 2 hours i had before school. Not that its not good, but its really not something you would get and say WOW! Its more of like when V1.13 for FPSC gets boring and they release V1.14....nothing too special

dude if you really want a turkey sandwich, then make one, and make ham.sdaF?
RalphY
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Posted: 19th Nov 2008 20:46
Bah! I can't post an image of my avatar as my 360 gave the RRoD on Sunday. Worst time of the year to break, so many good games out/ coming out at the moment.

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Posted: 19th Nov 2008 21:33 Edited at: 19th Nov 2008 21:33
Nice avatar, BiggAdd.

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Satchmo
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Posted: 20th Nov 2008 00:36 Edited at: 20th Nov 2008 00:42
I love the new Xbox, but the Avatars should have been more realistic, they kind of feel like wanna-mii's. But here's mine.

AndrewT
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Posted: 20th Nov 2008 00:59
Very stylish Satchmo!

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Posted: 20th Nov 2008 01:03
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Agent Dink
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Posted: 20th Nov 2008 03:23
I can't really decide if I like the new dash or not... It does make some stuff better, other stuff I'm not so sure of. Perhaps I just need to get used to it.

I do like the avatars even if it's not quite as customizable as the Miis, but I don't totally see their point.

What I really like is the info browsing on game titles. You can see screenshots and stuff. It's all at your fingertips. THAT part is awesome.

I think I just need to get used to it. It's unfamiliar. Everything seems a lot faster though which is good as well.

I give it 8/10 galactic credits as they say in Milk Paton.

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Jeku
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Posted: 20th Nov 2008 03:55
I haven't done this yet--- is it true the XBLA games all have boxart now?


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Posted: 20th Nov 2008 05:21
From what I have seen, yes

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Posted: 20th Nov 2008 06:00
lol xbox fails


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Posted: 20th Nov 2008 06:30 Edited at: 20th Nov 2008 06:44
The Avatar system right now is really just for having a giggle for the moment.

A new XBLA title from Ninja Bee takes advantage of the Avatar system so you can play as yourself, and Uno also recieves a nice update when you start it that allows you to have them show and emote while you play with friends over your gamercard or camera.

Primetime is really where the Avatars will see their true workout as far as what the grand scheme is for them. Although still there are a number of features that won't be implimented until the next update to the XDK in Spring... still I'm sure those of you who have premium themes might like the new 3D backgrounds for your parties and it is a good laugh seeing your friends.

Some aspects will be released prior to the Spring Update to make the Avatars a little more interactive in Party Mode, but a few things have been taken from the update. One was the confidence that the servers should easily handle the usual Winter influx given the sheer number of people who logged on and downloaded the update the moment it became publically available at 10am GMT (2am PST), truely staggering.

Although there are some performance issues that currently are directly linked to Live's performance. Probably most noticeable is the freezing on your visual friends list, but there are a few other issues like Lives download performance and peering; although the system should stabilise within a week as it all gets fine tuned for daily useage, everyone can still expect some teething problems.

While it has been noted over and over by a good majority of people across the web, the receiption on the whole is good; but still only a small number of people actually see much of a point, with more still saying they prefer the old blade system.

Personally I wish that there had been a system in place over the past month (while the Dashboard has been in it's current ready-state so to speak) where everyone could flip between the new and old systems.

Realistically what the new dashboard offers, past a much better cleaner presentation (particularly on HDTVs) is performance.
Games load quicker, almost instantly in most cases.
Your Guide which now provides you with direct links to practically your entire Xbox Experience is faster to access and use... not just slightly; but seriously how often would you be in a game to get a message press the guide button and have to wait while the guide took it's sweet time to appear then populate with the message?

Depending on the title you were playing and live connectivity performance this could be between a few seconds to almost 30seconds at times. The new system is practically instant no matter what you're doing.

If you could switch between the two (like some of us have been the past month) trust me, you REALLY start to appreciate just how much damn quicker the guide is.

There are other little touches that might not be obvious but you'll come to appreciate, are things like being able to scroll description text rather than it randomly scrolling. Direct information, screenshots, videos, downloads, etc... again all right there and split in to easier to manage sections.

The alphabetised sorting, with direct links to each letter and searching features for those with the messenger boards (or USB Keyboards provided you set to you're language + Keyboard type)

Installing to Hard Disk, not only great for games on their last legs; but in the majority of the Xbox 360 library will drastically improve loading times.

Fallout 3 for example, running normally from disc will take up to 30 seconds to load areas; where-as from HDD the loading screens practically disappear. Mirror's Edge is another good example as the entire game almost eleminates loading times running from the HDD.

There is a selection of currently 11 Community Games online right now, and you can just expect that number to keep growing over the next few weeks/months. All with Trial modes, information, screenshots and videos just like XBLA titles.

Background downloading has been drastically improved, performance wise but also streaming bandwidth has been increased as well allowing 720p to run on regular 2Mbit Broadband rather than just the previous 8Mbit requirement before.

There are new display modes available for HDTVs allowing for a larger range of Widescreen and Normal Aspect modes to take full advantage of your HDTVs.

Realistically I think everyone expected some complete renewal of Xbox Live; sort of like how Xbox 360 originally hit with seriously awesome new features over regular Xbox Live. Although sure the new party system is quite a fun new feature... realistically not much has changed in the way of what is available.

Instead you've got a much easier to navigate system, that for the most part is far quicker to get around and access. It's not a revolution that was expected, but over time as people become more used to it; it will become a change that everyone will embrace because of the subtle changes not the major ones.

Basically the difference is like Windows XP and Windows Vista.
Once you get past the visual differences, on the whole they're the same thing doing the same job... while it's the major differences people want now, in a few months it's the subtle ones that people will wonder how they ever lived without.



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Posted: 20th Nov 2008 08:34 Edited at: 20th Nov 2008 08:34
I like it. It goes faster, and the 8-way chat is better than the old crappy 2-way.



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Posted: 21st Nov 2008 00:31
I dont really see a point of putting it on your hard drive. If the disk gets scratched to much, then you can't play anyway. You need to have the disk to verify it.


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Posted: 21st Nov 2008 02:42 Edited at: 21st Nov 2008 02:43
Quote: "I dont really see a point of putting it on your hard drive. If the disk gets scratched to much, then you can't play anyway. You need to have the disk to verify it."


I've tried it with CoD 5 and it seems quite a bit quieter as the disk/disk drive isn't continually spinning, it may also load quicker although that wasn't much of an issue with this game in the first place.

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Posted: 21st Nov 2008 04:09
Quote: "If the disk gets scratched to much, then you can't play anyway. You need to have the disk to verify it."

It prevents it from the disk getting scratched....

Blobby 101
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Posted: 21st Nov 2008 07:43
umm... it only needs a little bit of info off the disk to verify it. Unless you've taken a knife to your disk, it's unlikely to fail after it been installed to the HDD. The only problem is getting it to avoid failing while it's ripping/installing.

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Posted: 21st Nov 2008 13:54
I've installed cod4 to my hard drive, seems quieter and it loads quicker, but it takes up so much space! I need a bigger drive.

Jeku
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Posted: 21st Nov 2008 16:32
GOW 2 is *much* quieter when installed to the hard drive.


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Posted: 22nd Nov 2008 00:36



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Posted: 22nd Nov 2008 00:48
Quote: "lol xbox fails"


Why? Why come and waste the timer it took to type that, you want a flame war? Go somewhere else......

I beleive that the new avatar system is pretty awesome, people moan that it's a ripoff of the Mii, hello, it's called intertextuality. Nothing is original when it comes to media, everything is based on or draws from other ideas......

I think that everything is alot better, other than CoD4 crashing out on me after installing this update.....

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