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Matt Rock
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Posted: 23rd Nov 2008 23:26 Edited at: 23rd Nov 2008 23:56
Before I begin, the first person who posts a Rick Roll is going to be executed by firing squad.

I was having a conversation with a friend today, who said that his younger cousin made a startling comment earlier, that his generation (he's 14) doesn't have an identifiable group of songs that really define or speak for their generaiton. I chalk it up to him just being a dunce, but it got me thinking... what songs defined various generations? How much of a role does personal taste play in this?

Okay, some ground rules. First off, if you're younger than 18, just say that, don't type your name or say "I'm the same age as your friend's cousin." I noticed a threat in that regard, so just don't do it. Secondly, this IS NOT a list of your favorite artists or favorite videos. List songs that you think spoke for your generation as a whole, not just songs you like (for instance, I'm putting Nirvana on my list and I can't stand them). Third, post your age (observe the previous statement!) and/ or a general period in which you really "discovered" music.

Me, I'm 28, and came of musical age in the 1990's, from about 1992 to 2001 or so. Then I fell into the category of "old" when I started thinking most new music was rubbish, lol. Five of the songs that defined my generation:

Smells Like Teen Spirit - Nirvana
This was one of the anthems of the 90's, though I didn't care for it. But to say they didn't have an impact would be absurd.

Blackhole Sun - Soundgarden
Still a cool video

Paranoid Android - Radiohead
The Beatles had "A Day in the Life." Queen had "The Bohemian Rhapsody." And Radiohed had "Paranoid Android." This is the most powerful mega-ballad of the past 20 or 30 years, hands-down. Okay, I'm showing bias, but I defy someone to name a bigger highly composed song like this since the 1970's.

Human Behaviour - Bjork
One of the most groundbreaking, style-defining videos of all time. And the song was cool too . Anyway, I don't know anyone my age who doesn't know this song, though I'm sure someone will say they haven't heard it now, lol. (audio quality warning)

Cannonball - The Breeders
Another anthem, but not as dirty as Nirvana's.

Edit: Switched out tracks to youtube instead of MTV Music. And should have included "Plush" by Stone Temple Pilots but five is a good number

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Posted: 23rd Nov 2008 23:43 Edited at: 23rd Nov 2008 23:45
Just as a note you should convert those to YouTube links, as people outside the US can't view those videos


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Posted: 23rd Nov 2008 23:51
Ouch, I didn't know that. Alrighty, will do, thanks for the heads up.

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Posted: 23rd Nov 2008 23:59
Well maybe one of the reasons your friend's cousin said that is because music has so many genres, artists and songs that it's really not possible to say that a generation has a song.

Even the five you list, may only apply to you and your circle of friends, where you live, with the exception of 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' perhaps.

I'm not as old as you (20), but the songs that were massive for me and my friends during high school are completely different for my friends who grew up elsewhere.
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Posted: 24th Nov 2008 00:07
I'm the same age as you. I never really bought music until i was grown up. I guess i listened to whatever was on top of the pops at the time. I guess the big thing was Britpop in the nineties. Blur, Oasis, Pulp and that. I quite like eighties music. Whether that's because i heard it when i was little or if it's just inherently good i don't know.

There are so many genres and artists etc. It seems there is more and more- at least, more readily available to consumer, so the zeitgeist is less well defined or something. Like how back in the day everyone watched the same TV shows, and now there's digital TV and the internet.

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Posted: 24th Nov 2008 00:08
I agree for the most part, but even still, aren't there songs that you recognize as definitive of the era when you came into music? It doesn't have to be music you liked per say, but wasn't there music that acted as a sort of ambassador to the era?

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Posted: 24th Nov 2008 00:28 Edited at: 24th Nov 2008 00:40
We built this city on ROCK AAannnd ROOOOOOOOHHHHLLL cue awesome 80's synth.

Various Iron Maiden, Guns and roses, Megadeth and Metallica. That's what everyone around me was listening to when I grew up. But my all time childhood favourite has to the the song I mentioned at first, and that other song I can't remember the title of. It was a guy on a harley? bike out in nowhere, singing about rock or something. Good times.

Quote: "Just as a note you should convert those to YouTube links, as people outside the US can't view those videos"

I must be inside the US then. They played fine and dandy here.
Edit: Yes, that's right. Even dandy.

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Posted: 24th Nov 2008 00:41 Edited at: 24th Nov 2008 00:43
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipZDG6__Zfc

This was a big song in '91 at about Grade 5 or 6.

And the women were all over this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lht_tdJQFbs


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Posted: 24th Nov 2008 00:48
Sadly, it's probably Pop for someone as young as me....pop sucks....

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I sorta caught the tail-end of the grunge era, considered the last of generation-x. Music was beginning to shift from grunge (cause all the singers died) and some of the punk-look was going around when thrift shops became popular again, to the beginning of what the current rock scene is. Rage was the first and only good one in my opinion, then you had crap like korn and limpy bizcut coming out.


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Posted: 24th Nov 2008 02:18
These were the songs going around a lot when I was growing up:

Deftones - My Own Summer (Shove It)
I didn't like this song when it was popular with my friends, but I think its quite good now.

Rammstein - Du Hast
Classic techno This really turned me onto Rammstein, and they're now one of the mainstays of my playlists.

Rob Zombie - Dragula (Hot Rod Herman Remix)
Popular because it was part of the Matrix soundtrack, though I prefer the original track.

Linkin Park - In The End
I HATE THIS SONG. I did when it was absurdly popular and I do now. :/ Linkin Park has lots of other songs that are good though.

Limp Bizkit - Nookie
Despite all the hate LB gets, I still think they made some awesome songs. Nookie was one of the more popular ones where I lived.
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Posted: 24th Nov 2008 02:37 Edited at: 24th Nov 2008 02:38
Quote: "Sadly, it's probably Pop for someone as young as me....pop sucks.... "


coffeegrunt, you can't complain I have it much worse me, well it's not even music, but new age rap. OMG! It's horrible people at my school filging the words OG, izzles, shorty, and the stupid rap artists name (T-pain wtf..?) Also emo and skater it's just a gathering of conformists at my school with people like "hey lets go to hot topic omg! FALLOUT BOY!". Don't get me wrong I liked hot topic before everyone else shopped there (had the coolest invader zim stuff), but I grew up on rock and techno which is close to what I listen to today.

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Posted: 24th Nov 2008 03:21 Edited at: 24th Nov 2008 03:23
Matt I'm only a year younger than you, but growing up this side of the pond there were some differences in culture I think.

Although yeah I remember all the ones you've posted being big particularly Nirvarna; personally these would be my top 5

Garbage - ...when it rains

Deep Blue - Breakfast at Tiffany's

Blur - Song 2

The Rembrandts - I'll be there for you

The Cardigans - My Favourite Game

Mind the 90s were a fantastic decade for indie music, just a shame there was the whole boy-girl "band" thing going on in pop culture, plus some truely awful stuff... anyone else remember the Vengaboys?

I feel deeply sad it was our generation that introduced that and happy hardcore that is big with the Chav culture right now lol

that said it wasn't quite as bad as the copy-cat groups now like good god "Fast Food Rockers"

[edit] haha just found the original track I was thinking of
it's cheesy and annoyingly i still enjoy it

The Outhere Brothers - Boom Boom Boom!

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Posted: 24th Nov 2008 09:40
Pearl Jam's TEN album, without a doubt (still my fave album).

But also...

Superunknown (Soundgarden)
Faith No More (Angel Dust)
Prodigy (Experience)
Ice T (O.G.)
Cypress Hill (Black Sunday)
Radiohead (The Bends)
Nirvan (Nevermind)

These are all albums because this was back in the days when you looked forward to a band releasing an album, saved money for it. I remember setting myself a limit to how many albums I would buy in a month. Portable music has bent the industry out of all recognition. Back in the days of vinyl, playing music was almost like a ritual, nowadays I don't think people even bother listening to the whole song half the time. When I was a little kid, my dad had this Doctor Who theme LP, translucent blue, now that was a piece of music - if there's a 50% chance you'll get in trouble for playing it then you know your on the right track.

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Posted: 24th Nov 2008 09:44
unfortunately i was raised 90s-00s terrible pop music then the obnoxious rap/hip hop. (i do like a few rap songs).

Luckily there was still great rock/metal out there

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Posted: 24th Nov 2008 12:44 Edited at: 24th Nov 2008 12:44
I hope im allowed to say this but I'm sooo very nearly 18 (birthday is very very very soon) so therefore my generation would be classed as the very end of the 90's and obviously the 2000s. I would say that indie music has played a big part in the sound of my generation.
Bands such as the keiser chiefs and Franz ferdinand. In my opinion Indie music is talentless trash and I get very confussed with regards to its popularity.

I think there are many silly pop bands that were popular for my generation as well such as Steps and Sclub7 (British bands so I dont know if anyone other than the english guys would know much about them)

My personal soundtrack would be:

Feeder - Just a day
Avenged sevenfold - UnholyConfessions
Gavin Degraw - I dont wanna be

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Posted: 24th Nov 2008 16:19 Edited at: 24th Nov 2008 16:21
These were the albums that defined my friends and I in high school:

The Offspring - Smash
Nirvana - Nevermind
Oasis - What's the Story Morning Glory
Radiohead - The Bends
Prodigy - Fat of the Land
Beck - Odelay
Bjork - Debut
Soundgarden - Superunknown

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Smashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness


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A lotta soundgarden people...I guess I missed that...

Quote: "Sadly, it's probably Pop for someone as young as me....pop sucks...."


Indeed, it is the root of all evil. Unfortunately that's probably true for me as well.

I'm surprised there are no U2 albums though, I'd have thought "achtung baby" or "Joshua Tree" would have been in there.
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Prodigy, FatBoySlim, All Ibitha kind of stuff (Late 90's), Pop

Early 2000's = Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Papa Roach (all nu metal nonsense)

And a bit of Radiohead thrown in between

I'd say thats a pretty good cross section of the "Zeitgeist" of the late 90's / early 2000's. Before rap became 'cool'. Uuruhguhr.

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Posted: 26th Nov 2008 02:07
Even as a Radiohead fan I have to say I'm taken back by how many people are naming them as definitive to the generation, that's cool

My list above was mostly for the generation as a whole, but my group of friends pretty much had the same tastes. In my click, the albums everyone rallied behind were:

"Debut" and "Post" - Bjork
"The Bends" and "OK Computer" - Radiohead
"Parklife" and "The Great Escape" - Blur
"Ill Communication" and "Hello Nasty" - The Beastie Boys

Those seem to be the albums everyone in my personal group of friends loved, while of course everyone had other tastes as well. I may have been the only non-Nirvana fan in my troupe, and I wasn't keen on Smashing Pumpkins though everyone I knew told me it didn't compute looking at my other tastes.

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Posted: 26th Nov 2008 04:35
I thought OK Computer was a bit too pretentious and the lead singer lost the ability to form coherent sentences. But The Bends is one of the best albums of all time, let alone our generation.


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The first time I heard anything off OK Computer was in concert. They kicked off the show with Airbag and... well... let's put it this way, my signature in emails and on websites is "in an interstellar burst, I'm back to save the universe," a line from that song . And Paranoid Android brought a tear to my eye. But that album was the first to break the Radiohead fan base into distinct camps, the Bends crowd vs. the OK Computer crowd. And now there's the Kid A/ Amnesiac crowd, lol. But no distinct Pablo Honey, Hail to the Thief, or In Rainbows crowds

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Turn On The Bright Lights, Interpol's first album really kick started the Post-Punk revival of this decade. But I didn't know about it until after I discovered The Stills, whose debut album Logic Will Break Your Heart was very definitive for me personally.

I think Doolittle by The Pixies is worthy of this discussion, since they were Nirvana's biggest influence.

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Posted: 26th Nov 2008 22:58
I was born in the 1990s and blues is my favourate genre of music...

Doesnt really define my generation does it?

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Quote: "I think Doolittle by The Pixies is worthy of this discussion, since they were Nirvana's biggest influence."

Definitely, plus the Mudhoneys and definitely Sonic Youth, it saddens me how few people these days remember those bands . When it comes to Sonic Youth, I think my own tastes might be very, very different today if I'd never heard Bull in the Heather.

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I'm not familiar with the Mudhoneys, but Sonic Youth I know quite well.

I think a lot of people identified with [i]Everclear[i] in the mid to late 1990s. Their singles were all over American radio and they had some great albums, Song From An American Movie in particular.

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Quote: "I'm surprised there are no U2 albums though, I'd have thought "achtung baby" or "Joshua Tree" would have been in there."


Lol, you scorn pop, but then praise U2? I dunno which one's worse.


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Posted: 28th Nov 2008 23:35 Edited at: 28th Nov 2008 23:36
My Music which defined who I am now, must be..
Du Hast/Keine Lust/Feuer Frei/Links 2-3-4 - Rammstein
Run To The Hills/Number of the Beast/Aces High/Powerslave - Iron Maiden
Every Single SOAD song.
And Glow/Movies/Smooth Criminal - Alien Ant Farm.

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And Black Hole Sun - Soundgarden.
Alot of Metallicas stuff.



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Quote: "Lol, you scorn pop, but then praise U2? I dunno which one's worse."


That was kind of hypocritical of me wasn't it? I don't praise U2, but I know they were very popular so I was just surprised they weren't mentioned.
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I'm just surprised noone has mentioned Roxette yet.

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As far as I'm concerned, Linkin Park and other nu-metal bands, Radiohead and pop/rock (Coldplay, U2, ect) defined my generation.


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I feel so, so very sorry for whoever was born in 2008. What a horrible year for music.

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I'm 20, born in 1988. This is my personal musical definition of my generation / what helped me become the person I am. I know it's supposed to be broken up into songs and such, but the list would just be too long, so I'm gonna rattle off some bands and why I feel they defined MY generation.

For the longest time I really didn't get into much music. I grew up with a lot of mellow Christian music like Michael W Smith. My brother and some friends were heavily into punk and ska. I got into it, probably a little out of peer pressure though I still like some of it today. Back then it definitely shaped my life a bit as like I said there was some peer pressure there. Nothing negative, probably alot positively as 90% of that music was all Christian based as well.

So, from my childhood to young teens:
Supertones, Insyderz, Five Iron Frenzy, MXPX, Michael W Smith, Newsboys. Nothing else really noteworthy.

As me and those friends started growing up, we mostly grew apart. Tastes changed, found new hobbies, stuff like that. We were becoming what we are now. Very different people, really.

So there was a time when I grew enough away from that crowd that I didn't really have a genre of music I totally liked. I had nothing to really attach my liking of X style of music to, and with no one to listen with or talk about the music with I sorta just grew away from it. I still liked it, but it just wasn't as fun as it was when we were all into it I guess.

A few years, maybe till I was... 15 or so, I liked 'funny' music like Weird Al, They Might Be Giants, but never really got heavily into it. I didn't really have any music to call 'home' I can't say that any music had really defined my life from the age of 15 to 18. My taste in music was going through a rebirth. The roots of my current musical tastes start with bands like (including but not limited to) Evanescence, Chevelle, Linkin' Park, and Switchfoot.

From that point till now my tastes in music encompass most forms of modern rock (alternative, goth, some forms of punk, etc) and some metal and hardcore screamy type stuff. The metal and screamy stuff has been becoming a bigger interest lately with the discovery of a few bands, namely August Burns Red, Demon Hunter, and All That Remains.

The bands that have made me reflect on my life and want to change things the most would have to be Flyleaf, RED, Five Iron Frenzy, Demon Hunter, and August Burns Red. To me these are the bands that define my personal life. These are all great bands with great messages. If you like dark and heavy rock then you'll love these bands, but look deeply into the music. With the dark, hard, and heavy hitting lyrics and music comes extremely positive messages delivering hope to those who have little. These bands are the bands that I think I will hold most dear to myself for the rest of my life. They are the bands that are helping to form me into the person I have always wanted to be. They've helped me see a lot that's wrong with the world and people as well as myself and my own life. It makes me want to be different and set apart from the crowd.

I find it interesting that the great majority of my favorite bands are Christian. I listen to all genres of music, but it always seems that after I start falling in love with a band I find out they're Christian. I guess it's just because I msot like unique bands with positive messages.

Why did I post all this? I guess it's just more complicated for me when it comes to the music I like hehehehe.

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Well, this may not define my ENTIRE generation... but it certainly defines my age group in every place I have ever lived... (Would also explain why I have but a single friend )

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I'll try to post what I was listening to in close chronological order... Excuse the spelling



To be continued


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