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Lukas W
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Posted: 7th Dec 2008 14:22
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HAI!!

I was writing a new website today and decided to make it look simple to use and all that. I think it worked fairly well.

However, even this simple design has some issues in internet explorer. As far as I know about 70% of internet users use IE while 25% use firefox and the remaining 5% use safari or opera. (Just a wild guess).

So, 70% of my visitors will view my website wrong.

Anyone know how I can write the website so it looks the same in FF and IE?

Here's a preview: http://allwaysafraided.com/other/newweb/?page=news.
I haven't filled the mysql database yet so there isn't much information visible other than some text to demonstrate the html and javascript functions.

Anyway, is it COOL?!!!

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Tom J
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Posted: 7th Dec 2008 15:53 Edited at: 7th Dec 2008 15:55
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I like the simplicity, and the dropdown text boxes on the projects page is nice.

I think the <center> tag is causing most of the differences in IE and FF. For me at least. FF centres just the table, and IE is centering the whole text as well. I don't know any specific method for making a site work the same in two browsers, I just sort of trial-and-error my way through the problem.
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Agent Dink
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Posted: 7th Dec 2008 16:12 Edited at: 7th Dec 2008 16:13
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I think it is actually. The simplicity is actually what makes it cool.

Oh, when you click on a project after the little dropdown info boxes pop up and you hit back the little boxes stay visible then they all start stacking on top each other when you mouseover other projects.


btw, 'allways' is actually spelled with 1 'l' like 'always'

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Alucard94
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Posted: 7th Dec 2008 17:07
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Quote: "btw, 'allways' is actually spelled with 1 'l' like 'always'
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I believe that was meant to be misspelled, considering that the entire website is written strangely.
I really like the design though!


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bitJericho
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Posted: 7th Dec 2008 17:11 Edited at: 7th Dec 2008 17:11
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Quote: " we make gmae. but they're not v. good."


It'd be better if you said "their" instead of "they're"... You just don't expect good grammar in a sentence like that.

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Benjamin
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Quote: "It'd be better if you said "their" instead of "they're"..."

That's not typical of a person he's imitating.

Oh by the way Lukas, happy birthday for the other day. Only 4 days late.

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Lukas W
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Posted: 8th Dec 2008 18:22
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Tom J,
ThanX!
I think it will be possible to fix this by adding a <td align=left> tag or something along those lines.

Agent Dink,
Hi! I can't replicate that bug. In IE6 that doesn't happen.
Will have to explore more when I get home.

Alucard94,
THANKS! And if you really need to know I suckz at website design, so this is pretty much all I can do. I'm more a programmer than a designer.

Jerico2day,
See Benjamins comment!

Benjamin,
Happy birthday to you too. Only 4 days late.
Yea my birthday was v. fun. I worked for 10.5h then went to the cinema with my family. The movie sucked though and I almost fell asleep.

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Phaelax
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Posted: 8th Dec 2008 18:34
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light gray text is hard to read on a white background..... a very big empty white background. And that kind of grammar makes me leave websites very quickly because I'll assume it's a crap site written by a 4yr old. I'm no design expert (as nobody likes my website either) but I'd have to say it doesn't look cool.

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Lukas W
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Posted: 8th Dec 2008 20:56
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Hahaha so true. I agree that with the bad grammar it's less enjoyable to visit.

I wanted to use gray, white and red colors; but I agree that it's hard to read the gray text. Didn't think much of how other monitors behave with the contrast ratio or not to mention the difference in opinion. The visitors are always right! That's my website design way! So I am going to change the text into dark-gray color instead of light-gray!

Anyway, Thanks for the feedback!

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Little Bill
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I actually quite like the bad grammar. Looks funky.


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Nice site.

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Game Maker
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Quote: "I actually quite like the bad grammar. Looks funky."

Agreed.


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Haven Studios
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Looks sleek, but....



in the about section lol

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Jeku
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Posted: 9th Dec 2008 16:14
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Quote: "I actually quite like the bad grammar."


For a joke site, sure.


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Lukas W
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Posted: 9th Dec 2008 22:13 Edited at: 9th Dec 2008 22:25
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Hello again.
Is there any possible way, either using javascript or php, to tell if the user pressed "back" in their browser?

The reason I am asking is because I thought that it would be a good idea to hide all project popup windows when the back button was pressed.

As far as my knowledge goes it is not possible to run a check like this, because when the back button is pressed, the browser is loading a pre-rendered web page, and that pre-loaded one can't run any scripts.

However, another solution could be to refresh the projects page once every 2 seconds. Or better (and more friendly to the user) just include a small page at the bottom of the project page, with a php script that refreshes itself and hides the popup windows.
Though I don't know if it is possible to hide items on a web page from a different web page.
It would probably be like trying to ask your mom to bring you a soda by using your mind, rather that to speak up.

edit,
Finally changed the color on the text, and made it look and act the same way in IE as it does in FF. Only difference is the render engine (IE smooth everything out).

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Xenocythe
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I think you can check the URL of the page the browser was on before it came to the page its currently on.

I'm alright with PHP/javascript, but I've never needed to do something like that.


I like the website, it's funny, unless you want to make money.


Then again, the joker was hilarious in The Dark Knight, and he made half a mil fo shizzle.

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Agent Dink
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Every time the page loads, just set the popup blocks visibility to hidden? It should work fine. No need to check what the user did last. They're supposed to show up hidden, so there's no harm in telling them to be hidden each time the page loads.

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Lukas W
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Posted: 10th Dec 2008 19:26
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Xenocythe,
No I can't because it appears that it doesn't run any scripts when a pre-loaded page is viewed. (A page stored locally to improve load times).
I was thinking that maybe I can have my website server decline the users offer to store pages in the temp. internet files folder. But I have no idea how to go about that, and my instincts tell me it's a bad idea to even think about implementing that feature.

Also as far as the grammar stuff, I mentioned it earlier but it's just text I wrote to fill the website. Though the text in the projects information popup windows are descriptions from my current website, which will change. Because I don't like what I wrote.


Agent Dink,
I don't know if you viewed the source code or not, but have already written what you suggested in javascript. And it doesn't work other than when the page is refreshed.
However if what you say is true, then I will have to review the script and make sure it does what it's supposed to.

Though, in Internet Explorer it works fine. It's only FF that has this problem.

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Agent Dink
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Posted: 10th Dec 2008 21:16 Edited at: 10th Dec 2008 21:17
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Ah, true, cause it probably uses the cached page... Hmmm... can you write a script to hide the boxes when you hit the link rather than hide the boxes when the page loads? I think that should work.

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bitJericho
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I like it. It gets the job done. Keep the bad grammar, it's part of the charm I couldn't have designed a neater website if I tried

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