In order:
Quote: "Lighting is perfect. PERFECT."
That really does not matter. You can simulate daylight, shadows, etc. That does not mean I couldn't have been green screen.
Quote: "She has long hair etc... which is usually a good hint green screen wasn't involved."
When testing my school's AV studio, they had a girl with nearly waist length, bright blond hair stand in front of the green screen and shake her hair out. It came out flawlessly, without any glowing, halos, or unwanted clipping of her hair.
Quote: "They would've had to have created the pavement / lamposts etc... in the green screen studio EXACTLY as in real set."
That could've e been a 3D render put into the background, or they could've taken video of the street scene without any of the actors in it, then use that footage as a background.
Quote: "She interacts with background objects."
Again, it could've been 3D, or more likely, they had things like the lamp post actually in the studio, covered in green, and things like the package she drops actually there, and she just dropped it, left it there, and picked it up on the next run.
Quote: "considering the camera movement and her interaction with backdrop, WHY WHY WHY would they do it against greenscreen? It would be easier to actually do it on location."
So they could have multiple copies of her in the same shot. They would take 5 separate videos of her doing the 5 different walks, then cut out the green, and just overlap them all.
Quote: "Your video is like 3 people poorly aligned against some photographs. This Kylie Minogue video is 5* of her moving and interacting with each other for several minutes with dozens of extras. Worlds apart."
True, the video I linked to isn't much compared to this, but
A) I had to follow the professors specifications. The result of this was that it was very short and not as good as I wanted it to be. I also couldn't get any good backgrounds, due to the fact that I wasn't allowed to take the cameras out of the studio to get decent, and possibly moving, backgrounds.
B) I honestly didn't put a tremendous amount of effort into this particular project. I know I probably should have, but I had other things to worry about...
C) I had less than a week to get this done, so the quality suffered. I don't mean less than 7 complete days to get it done, I mean 4 school days, which is less than 2 hours of class a day to work on it, plus whatever I managed to squeeze in at home.
I'm not saying the video I have now can compare to this one, I'm saying that I believe I could do something comparable if I really tried.
Quote: "Making of video above. Done on set."
I was wrong. It wasn't made on a green screen, and it was done with motion tracking. Thank you for clearing that up, now we can stop arguing about that. I was wrong, and I apologize if I made anyone angry.
Quote: "What I unsuccessfully tried to say was that I, too, went to school to become a programmer but that doesn't mean I will be the next John Carmack."
Yes, but you would have a better understanding of his work than a non-programmer, wouldn't you?
Quote: "Michel Gondry doesn't simply copy other's techniques-- he invents new ways and techniques for doing things. As I mentioned before he is credited with inventing the Matrix bullet-time effect among other things. Using a software package that makes it easy to green-screen is not the same thing. There are pioneers and then there are imitators."
I never said that coming up with idea would've been easy, I said that that actual execution of the idea was easier than you guys were making it out to be. However, I was wrong about how it was done, so that point is moot.
Quote: "I have a friend who has his degree in comp sci. and he is now a landscaper. He is not a professional software engineer."
He may not actively be a pro software engineer, but he is certified as one.
Quote: "Those who work in the industry are professionals by contrast."
So you only have to work in an industry to be a professional in it? Darn, and here I was wasting all my time and money getting an education and learning skills relevant to my field.
I guess I'll drop out and become a mail room worker at a video studio. That way, I'll be a video professional, because I will work in the industry.
</sarcasm>
Really though, just working in the industry does not mean you're a professional. There are people who are
completely and
utterly unqualified to work where they do, but they are still actively working in their industry. I would hardly call those people professionals.
If your friend were to apply for a job as a software engineer, he would be fully qualified, and would have every chance at getting it. If you have both your degree and the necessary skills, you are, in fact, a professional.
Quote: "The term professional can only be applied to people earning money with what they do."
A) I don't think that's true.
B) As I said, I am only a semi-professional
C) PTI has guaranteed job placement directly out of graduation. So, as soon as I graduate, I will begin making money in the industry, and I will be a professional.
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