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dab
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Hello, I'm back again with some more College questions.

I really want to go to college and learn some more programming; to learn some of those things I might have missed teaching myself. So I really want to learn C and other lower level languages. Professionally I want to start at web programming then eventually move to application programming or something.

Anyway, I was looking at colleges, and some don't offer Computer Programming as Bachelor's Major. Those that don't, have Computer Science listed.

What I was wondering is what would I really want to do for college if I wanted to pursue the course above? What are the difference between the two majors listed? IS there a major in Bachelor's for Computer programming or do I need to go to a more technical school for that?

Anyway, thanks for your responses. I really appreciate it since it'll hopefully save me thousands from choosing the wrong school.

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JoelJ
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Usually, if you're going into computer programming, you would get a degree in Computer Science.

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Ok, and what is normally in a Computer Science course?

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Jeku
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Posted: 27th Jan 2009 17:10 Edited at: 27th Jan 2009 17:11
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Computer Science has more theory than programming, which is why I did a Computer Information Systems degree (more programming, less theory).

Most software companies, however, recognize Computer Science as their degree of choice for graduates. You will have better success with that in the software industry for sure

When you are finished your Computer Science degree you should have solid knowledge of C, C++ and maybe even assembler. There will also be lots of math and lots of theory (operating systems, how CPUs work internally, etc.)


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They teach a lot of Java and/or C# nowadays.

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Software engineering is also a valid path into development. Lots of people keep saying soft. eng. is "dead", but that's rubbish: Comp-Sci and Soft. Eng. intermingle quite a lot in terms of content, so either one will serve nicely


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Quote: "Computer Science has more theory than programming, which is why I did a Computer Information Systems degree (more programming, less theory).

Most software companies, however, recognize Computer Science as their degree of choice for graduates. You will have better success with that in the software industry for sure

When you are finished your Computer Science degree you should have solid knowledge of C, C++ and maybe even assembler. There will also be lots of math and lots of theory (operating systems, how CPUs work internally, etc.)"


Awesome, that was the most help anyone has ever offered me. Do you know of, or have you heard of any decent US colleges that teach these courses?

Quote: "They teach a lot of Java and/or C# nowadays."

A fact that disappoints me

Quote: "Software engineering is also a valid path into development. Lots of people keep saying soft. eng. is "dead", but that's rubbish: Comp-Sci and Soft. Eng. intermingle quite a lot in terms of content, so either one will serve nicely"


I don't see that as a Major option so I'm assuming they are classes? What colleges have you attended that offer these classes?

Thanks for the help so far everyone

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Gil Galvanti
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I'm doing a Bachelor's in Computer Science and so far my classes related to that have been:
Intro to Comp Sci 1-Basics of C++
Intro to Comp Sci 2-More advanced C++ concepts
Discrete Structures-Maths applied to computer science

I've never heard of a "Bachelor's of Computer Programming", so it might be just another name for Computer Science.


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Quote: "I've never heard of a "Bachelor's of Computer Programming", so it might be just another name for Computer Science."


I think I saw it at those colleges where it is really just a lame excuse for college, and doesn't really do much. I Forget which ones but C'est la vie.

If anyone has any college suggestions, I'm open to hearing them.

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Quote: "Software engineering is also a valid path into development. Lots of people keep saying soft. eng. is "dead", but that's rubbish: Comp-Sci and Soft. Eng. intermingle quite a lot in terms of content, so either one will serve nicely"


Is there such a thing as a "software engineering" degree? My take is that you can be a software engineer when you have your comp sci degree.


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Posted: 28th Jan 2009 17:03 Edited at: 28th Jan 2009 17:03
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Jeku, yeah, there is. They're very similar though. The SE degree requires more math classes

I'm attending Neumont University. It's a really nice school. It's more project based, but they don't hold back at all. They cram the information down. You learn very fast. I haven't had a quarter with less than 22credit hours as of yet. They design it that way so you learn fast, and you get done fast.

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