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Pus In Boots
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Posted: 27th Mar 2009 20:26
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So a couple of days ago, I lost my shoe in the changing room (bear with me.) After recovering it, some A-hole who I will refer to as "scumboy" took it off me and started throwing it back and forth with scumboytwo. With my other shoe in hand, I swung out on instinct and caught him round the side of the head. Being an accident, I said sorry and went home before anything started off. Walking back with my mate, I convinced him to walk up to my house and wait for me while I dropped off my stuff instead of heading home. About halfway down the road, my mate turns round and sees scumboy walking towards us. I didn't catch what he said, but apparently he said "can I punch you in the face?" and started doing just that. Completely taken off guard, I ended up on the floor in a defensive position. After a few more punches round the head, scumboy kicks me in the head while I'm down, at which point my friend pulls him off. Scumboy stalks off; possibly to re-apply his manzone lest it shrinks again, and we go in and say what happened. (Followed by a few games of Left4Dead lol.) We call the school and then the police. (After some discussion.) We went to the station, they took a statement, etc and eariler today a police officer frightened scumboy into never doing it again. If confronted by him again, I would not hesitate to actually kick his teeth clean out his mouth, but what gets me so mad is the fact that he followed me home, planned his cowardly attacked, jumped me like a sex offender and literally kicked me as I was down. What I want to know is what you make of this. He is clearly a major douchebag and I've been aware of that for a long time, but to jump someone like that outside their own home with their mate right by them is just plain wrong in my eyes. Were this a proper playground fight, I would have shoved my fist down his throat and torn up several of his more important organs and shown them to him as he dies (a little dark, I know) but he denied me that opportunity in the cowardly approach he took. Major scum or what, huh?

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Asteric
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Posted: 27th Mar 2009 21:02
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man, if i was in that position, i would have hit him with some sort of painful object as he walked off, i hate those sort of people

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Posted: 27th Mar 2009 21:05
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My god, I would've gotten a concrete rebar and bashed his skull.

Kicked in the head? You alright? That must'a hurt.

Yinzes better redd up this room and I'll buy us some jumbo.
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Posted: 27th Mar 2009 21:07
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Luckily i live in a place where people are all bark and no bite

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Posted: 27th Mar 2009 21:08
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My friend was dating a girl, her brother did not like it, he acted nice up and until the point my friend had his back turned and rabbit punched him. Another friend, this one at school had a fight with somebody and won (he didn't start it), one turn of a blind eye all of his mates beat him up.

These sorts of people are scum bags and cowards. The worst I come up against are hecklers and they're either driving in their car or in a group, but never on their own. It's also like scum bags that carry knives or guns in order to threaten people with, that's all cowardice because they're afraid of a real, fair fight. Or overcompensate, for their lack of strength...or something else.

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Posted: 27th Mar 2009 21:28 Edited at: 27th Mar 2009 21:29
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Luckily for me, living in out in the stix, most people aren't bad enough to do that.

Although I have been targeted because of my height, when staying on a mate's estate.

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Posted: 27th Mar 2009 22:02
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Quote: "cowardly approach he took"

Never fight fair, I always say.
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Posted: 27th Mar 2009 22:20
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heh Jenkins. Never fight with violence, you can dish out so much more hurt other ways. Not to say Ive never attacked any one though, Ive done my fair share of fighting, but just incase no one else says it, physical violence = bad.


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Well... he is a douche, although hitting him in the face with your shoe wasn't the greatest idea . But that still doesn't make it right... personally i would carry a knife and then if he does more cowardly stuff stab him in the leg. BUT, i've got a slight temper and i've always wanted to beat someone up so... don't listen to me lol.
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Posted: 27th Mar 2009 22:55
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Get some Kung Fu lessons or something.

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Don't carry a knife, fool is living up to his name.
I don't know if you are just talking big because you got your arse kicked but if the situation arises again just beat the daylights out of him. I've had these confrontations before (both back in secondary school and on nights out) and most of those times has just been people offering each other out, nothing cowardly with them following me home. It used to be where we'd offer each other out and meet up at a time (cliché i know but its honorable at least). I have been jumped before, especially during another fight where his mates have jumped in at me. Luckily i have friends who will actually back me up(partially a dig at your mate for not tearing him a new one but people never react how they think they will in those situations).


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Posted: 28th Mar 2009 00:36
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Quote: "Don't carry a knife, fool is living up to his name.
I don't know if you are just talking big because you got your arse kicked but if the situation arises again just beat the daylights out of him."


I never mentioned anything about a knife. I was saying that I will indeed beat the daylights out of him. Hell, I will actually try to put him in the hospital. It's all been "resolved" now that the cops have set him straight and I've slept away most of the immediate anger, but if he tries to start anything I will actually break his jaw. Thing is, he does kickboxing or something, so he should have known better than to jump me like that.

Quote: "Luckily i have friends who will actually back me up(partially a dig at your mate for not tearing him a new one but people never react how they think they will in those situations)."


You're not the first to say that. He's not the sort of guy to get involved in conficts he knows nothing about and it would have only come back to bite me later if he jumped in; you know how people like that feel about "getting others to do your fighting for you". Again, he had no idea what it was about, but if I wanted, I could have easily said "punch him in the face", but decided against it for some reason. He's a black belt in Taekwando, so he could easily flatten the punk if he wanted to, so it's not a thing of him being too scared to step in. Like I said, he pulled "scumboy" off the moment he kicked me in the head, so he knew when to step in.

Interestingly, another mate of mine offered to set a bunch of people he knows on scumboy and batter the crap out of him, but with the police already involved I decided against it. Besides, I can atleast take the moral high ground here and not stoop to his level. Still, a part of me wants him to start on me again so I can throw the first punch and make him suffer myself.

As I said, it's all over now, so to speak, so I'm mostly just glad it's over.

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Kicked in the head? You alright? That must'a hurt.
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The thing is, it really didn't. Considering his capabilities, he probably could have done a lot worse, but I was basically fine, except for a nick and slight bruising beneath my eye and a small gash on my ear, which is little more than an inconvenience. So it's not the physical affects of it that bug me, it's just the nerve of the whole thing.

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If you see him coming, I suggest using this: http://www.98bravo.com/about_the_98B.php

However, if he comes at you fast, then I suggest you use this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machete

Indeed, if you get the army to lend you one of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AH-64_Apache, then I think you may be fully protected from the "scumboy".

If these fail, run.

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Posted: 28th Mar 2009 01:11
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I'd prefer my weapon of choice- a pair of kitty mitts. Just to make it more embarassing when he gets knocked out.

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Posted: 28th Mar 2009 01:14
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Hold up there fella... aren't they illegal?

You say: "They should be when I'm wearing them"

and everybody goes aaah

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I have a chart going from best down to worst

Us- Mostly Smart, intellectual, respectable people who use their brains wisely

Them- People with 3-7 braincells who cant find anything better to do then walk around streets aimlessly, or get into fights to reduce others braincells to feel special that they arent the only stupid people, SCUM basically, they need to be terminated

Fish

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...a past singer for a British progressive rock band. Bigheaded for no aparrent reason.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_(singer)

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Posted: 28th Mar 2009 01:33 Edited at: 28th Mar 2009 01:33
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I have a few stories like this.

One of them was on a snow day (when people usually have fun). I invited my best friend round. We had a few snowball fights and made a snowman (and woman). When I was taking her home, there was about 4 Scumboys. They started throwing snowballs at us, we obviously through a couple back. One of them came up to me and started kicking/punching me and the other 3 joined them. While my best friend was running to the opposite side of the road (not one of them layed a finger on her thank god). I took 2 of them down then they started to get really mad and started punching me hard round the face, making me fall over. I ended up having to just get up and walk off (and suprisingly, I wasnt followed). I dropped her home safely just a few cuts and bruses. Nothing was done. The police wernt told, and their parents wernt bothered by it.

Those 4 scumboys must be sharing 1 braincell.

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It sounds like "scumboy" is a perfectly fitting label for this guy. From your account it sounds like he's just got an ego far far bigger than his brain: if he takes your shoe off you and throws it, and then gets hit in the face with your other shoe and you apologise, the most appropriate thing to do, I'm sure, would be to take you at your word and not get all huffy about it. I assume his overreacting by jumping you like that just shows how overly proud and arrogant he is, by massively overcompensating for the shoe-face incident by basically giving you a (much much more thorough) beating in response.

Good on you for getting the police involved: it makes you look a lot more mature than he is, plus it ought to scare the bejeezus out of him now he knows his childish rough'n'tumble world of school scraps has spilled over into the world at large and actually has real consequences.

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Posted: 28th Mar 2009 01:38
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Quote: "a lot more mature"


Let's be honest, maturity is likely not exactly a concern of his. If anything, it's probably had a negative effect on your reputation... but it is the right thing to do. Don't let a reputation that won't matter in two years' time stop you from doing the right thing.

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why didn't your friend do anything while you were getting kicked in the head?

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Quote: "Let's be honest, maturity is likely not exactly a concern of his. If anything, it's probably had a negative effect on your reputation... but it is the right thing to do. Don't let a reputation that won't matter in two years' time stop you from doing the right thing."


True, maturity probably doesn't matter at all to scumbag - but Pus in Boots can take the moral highground, which means that the police were on his side much more than they would be if he'd put the guy in hospital. And although the police is not exactly the most "manly" way to deal with it, it's probably more reliable and effective.

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Posted: 28th Mar 2009 18:22
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Let's be honest, maturity is likely not exactly a concern of his. If anything, it's probably had a negative effect on your reputation... but it is the right thing to do. Don't let a reputation that won't matter in two years' time stop you from doing the right thing."


Actually, people have been pretty understanding about it. Only a few people knew to begin with and they didn't make a big deal after I explained what happened.

Quote: "why didn't your friend do anything while you were getting kicked in the head?"


You misunderstand. It was when that happened he pulled scumboy off.

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didnt you say that he started beating you up and you ended up on the ground. Your friend could have done something before it got to the kicking of your face.

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Everyone reacts different to situations. Everyone knows what they SHOULD do but when the situation actually occurs your reaction may be totally different. Unless you have proper training or experience in those situations it is unlikely that you will react the way you 'should.'
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I guess it's a little hard to call. I imagine it would have been different if a group of chavs jumped me.

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Also your friend was most likely in Condition White. Which is where about 90% of people are (well sure seems like it.)
Quote: "
CONDITION WHITE- White is the lowest level on the escalator. In Condition White one is unaware, not alert, oblivious. This state can be characterized as "daydreaming" or "preoccupied". People in White tend to walk around with their heads down, as if watching their own feet. They do not notice the impending danger until it literally has them by the throat."
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Quote: "I guess it's a little hard to call. I imagine it would have been different if a group of chavs jumped me."

Chavs can jump now? Oh dear, they have evolved/mutated. Soon they will probably resist different kinds of repellants too.

Pus In Boots, that sounds horrible, for anyone that age to act so immature. The schools I went to didn't have people that acted that way above the age of 16. That's about the age most people "matured" into not starting fights or do other stupid stuff, or so it appeared. So I haven't really experienced (first, or second-hand) anything similar in that age or above. I have however had my moments too, earlier when I was locked inside places, stolen stuff from, pushed down stairs, had my head showed down a toilet etc. That was just another school-day. But kids will be kids. Don't let it get to you. There's no reason hating such people as they are already miserable enough inside.

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Posted: 28th Mar 2009 19:32 Edited at: 28th Mar 2009 19:34
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Get him back with a Taser



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Quote: "Chavs can jump now? Oh dear, they have evolved/mutated. Soon they will probably resist different kinds of repellants too."


Speaking of Chavs, my friend started doing the classic chav hand twitch thing. I scolded him vehemently and called him a Chav and asked him why he wasn't saying "innit". Nothing to worry about now.

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Quote: "Don't let it get to you. There's no reason hating such people as they are already miserable enough inside.
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Well I'm a pretty level-headed guy. I rarely loose my call, so I'm not gonna go insane and break the guys face at the sight of him, nor am I gonna cry myself to sleep. However, someone needs to incite the hatred against him, as he seemed pretty amused by it and certainly doesn't seem very miserable inside. But I see your point.

Oh, it may also interest you guys to know that a lot of people at school now hate him, so I think he already got his commeuppance.

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Quote: "I'd prefer my weapon of choice- a pair of kitty mitts. Just to make it more embarassing when he gets knocked out."

That made me lol.

I believe it's legal to carry around pepper spray (not too sure), and if he comes at you again you can pepper spray him... It's not violent, and it'll keep him away from you. Of course interacting with violence only causes more violence. For example, he could come back with a weapon, or in a worse case scenario stab you or shoot you when you aren't looking. While the shooting bit is unlikely, everyone has access to a steak knife at least. People like that are usually dealing with problems of insecurity and are searching for their own identity. At least from what I can tell.

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Haha nice story. Being that I workout and bench almost twice my own weight, I would have punched him into tomorrow and he never would have messed with me again. Nor probably in the first place. Your mate didn't help? Why not? Was he scared? I'd beat him up also for not helping me. hahaha.


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I LOVE this thread...

Why? Because of all the false bravado!!!!

Well if he did that to me, I would've karate chopped his arse... NO NO, I would've chased him down...

It's freakin hilarious!!!

Keep it up!!! PLEASE.


NOTE: If anyone else plans on telling us your E-Karate Chops that you would'a done to the kid, please tell.
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I would've personally stalked him and never let him alone until he was 31. I found out how on the internet. All you would have needed was his first and last name (possibly from the police man?)

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Quote: "I found out how on the internet."


I lol'd.


But anyway, to the original topic...I've been in my fair shair of getting jumped. I've lived in some not so great neighborhoods, one which literally had a crackhouse and a half behind me(I say a half because people lived in one, the half was abandoned and eventually had cameras installed after it was marked for demolition due to the activities inside), and on one side of my house was pretty much a straight ghetto, drugs, weapons, the whole deal. Oddly enough, the opposite side of my house...if you walked down that street...mostly old people. But anyway, I definitely know the type of person to get mad and jump you over little things. I was only 12 at the time, and had people up to 18 who would get on me for anything random I said or did. The best way I learned to deal with them then, and apply it, albeit slightly differently to now, is to just flat out avoid them. I had 3-4 different routes to/from my house and school, and changed which one I used randomly. Nowadays it's more just blowing them off and walking away, and if things get intense, I can still take a hit, and I have friends who back me up no matter what. People of this nature are...meh...just another annoying factor you have to deal with.


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Exactly why, when I get older, I'm going to get a cap, with heat energy guns in a 360 degree radius around it, that I can shoot at will, just in case people surround me...

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Quote: "Why? Because of all the false bravado!!!!"

Let us have our bravado, this is the internet. If you dont like it then don't show up, you are not required to throw in your own two cents

I can't say I would have done any better than the friend, I would have actually done worse. A fight broke out between two of my friends right in front of me towards the end of last year, and I just froze.

I thank god that I haven't been desenstized from violence like the people that crowd around and act like the stupidity is the best part of their day.

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Find out what his other weakness is - a good one is normally a girl he may like. It requires some Spetznaz action, but nothing too much. Befriend her. Job done. He can't beat you up if you're one of her mates. Another one is find out what he's really into, and unless it's something really camp like knitting, you can turn that into a common repport. You dont have to love each other - just get a small amount of respect from him for liking similar things. Share one conversation about it. Sorted.

Violence always esculates, especially when people get their mates involved. So the only violent solution is to actually murder him, and then flee to Mexico and live out your life as a drug baron.


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Quote: "Get him back with a Taser "


Illegal to carry in the UK for self-defence, as is the case with any other type of weapon. The laws in this country prohibit the use of any kind of concealed weapon for self-defence. So, if some whackjob comes up to you with a broken bottle, knife or a gun you're expected to call the police and wait 15 minutes until they arrive, at which point your attacker would be long gone and never found again. You can only defend yourself using your bare hands which would be pointless if a gang of youths armed with knives jumped you.

But hey, why defend yourself. That's what the police are for, right?

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Quote: "You can only defend yourself using your bare hands which would be pointless if a gang of youths armed with knives jumped you."


You'd be alright if they attack you like they do in movies, one by one...

Seriously, learn some sort of martial art. It allows you to beat up anyone (well most people) and you're not gonna get into more trouble for having a weapon. If you pull a knife or something on a chav, you're gonna be in more trouble next time, specially as theyre likely to have 30 knifewielding chave friends...

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Dont conceal it then just walk along with it on show


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Posted: 29th Mar 2009 14:43
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Quote: "Illegal to carry in the UK for self-defence, as is the case with any other type of weapon. The laws in this country prohibit the use of any kind of concealed weapon for self-defence. So, if some whackjob comes up to you with a broken bottle, knife or a gun you're expected to call the police and wait 15 minutes until they arrive, at which point your attacker would be long gone and never found again. You can only defend yourself using your bare hands which would be pointless if a gang of youths armed with knives jumped you.

But hey, why defend yourself. That's what the police are for, right?"

Haha! It's funny 'cause it's true. Ha! Ha.

Ha. God, I hate this country sometimes.

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Pus In Boots
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Posted: 29th Mar 2009 15:24
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Do you think I want his respect!? I can barely stand to look at him, let alone get in his good books! He is scum, pure and simple and I would never associate with such a major douchebag. He's the sort of person I would try to kill in a fight.

shoot at all the scripters you want, but remember that it is a sin to kill a programmer.
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Zdrok
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Posted: 29th Mar 2009 15:48
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I thought the UK had the right to bear arms, like in the US. That must suck because it doesn't.

Yinzes better redd up this room and I'll buy us some jumbo.
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Grandma
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Posted: 29th Mar 2009 16:22
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No, you have misunderstood. The UK has the right to bear arms.

That's so cheesy but it's hard to resist them.

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Zdrok
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Posted: 29th Mar 2009 16:49
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My god. Drop that joke.

Yinzes better redd up this room and I'll buy us some jumbo.
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aluseus GOD
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Posted: 29th Mar 2009 16:50
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Nothing like this has ever happened to me. I think I live in a pretty good neighborhood.

My eyes hurt. And AUS rocks. More people should try making quality 2d games.
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Chenak
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Posted: 29th Mar 2009 16:57
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Apparently if you train in martial arts you are considered a weapon and are not allowed to defend yourself in the UK haha. I kind of doubt its true but someone told me this a few weeks ago and I just laughed, sad thing is it could be true in this country.

I practice Tai Chi now, there is a lot of physical combat, hell most of the lessons are the students beating each other up until someone runs away or passes out. Its pretty useless against guns but we've done a lot of training with knives and broken bottles. When i got told how to reach the first "grade" of Tai Chi I froze, apparently you have to defend yourself against a group of 30 people... I think our teacher was joking but not too sure

For self defense, carry an open bag of dried chillies and throw it in your attackers face. If the police ask why you were carrying chilly powder just say you were planning on cooking a curry later. Apparently defending yourself with improvised weapons is legal.
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Posted: 29th Mar 2009 17:02 Edited at: 29th Mar 2009 17:02
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If I were to mug you and you threw chili powder at my face, I'd be pissed.

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