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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 18:26
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Hi. for some reason, when i port forward apache to 80, i cant access my website from my external ip on windows vista.. can someone help?
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 18:28
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You can't usually access your own external IP from within your network.

You would use the local IP while everyone else uses your external IP.

Also, to make your life a *lot* easier, you might want to look into using WampServer:

http://www.wampserver.com/en/download.php

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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 18:42
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i used to be able to go to http://myextip w/ ease on my pentium 4 b4 it got a virus, and took away my hosting abilities. im on a new laptop, and would like it to work the same way if possible
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 18:48 Edited at: 11th Apr 2009 18:49
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Unless you're off your local network, I would say it's probably impossible, and not related to any virus.

Most modems/isps don't support loopback.

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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 18:56
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comcast does. so can u plz tell me what is going on?
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 18:57
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What's the IP. If I can access your apache server, then it's a loopback issue and everything's fine and you need to use your local IP like I noted.

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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 18:58
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i will email it to u
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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 19:01
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done, check ur email
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 19:03 Edited at: 11th Apr 2009 19:05
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Got it. I received the following message:

Quote: "Forbidden

You don't have permission to access / on this server."


This means the IP works and Apache is operational, but apache is not configured correctly to display any page. Likely it's not set to display the contents of a directory, and you have no index.html/index.php in the /webroot directory so it's got nothing to deliver.

It could be other problems too, but that's what I'd check first. Anwyay, like I said, to access it, use your local IP, like 127.0.0.1 or 192.168.x.x.

[edit] there it goes. I see you got wamp up and running on that ip now. [/edit]

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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 19:04
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ok, editing.

ill let u know.

stay on here
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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 19:12
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woops, didnt see ur edit there so it works?
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 19:13
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Er, sorry. Yep, workin fine.

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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 19:14
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awesome!

Im so happy i can host again
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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 19:15
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@jerico, thx for ur help

i really appreciate it
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bitJericho
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 19:18
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No prob

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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 19:18
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just 1 question.

how do i change my mysql password so it has a password?
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 19:20 Edited at: 11th Apr 2009 19:23
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Check this out:

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html#resetting-permissions-windows

[edit] You will need to edit your phpmyadmin configuration after changing the root password. It's pretty easy, just open up the cfg file (or whatever it's titled) and edit it per the instructions in the file.

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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 20:32
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right, jerico, i think u may have used the wrong ip or somethin, try connecting again, cuz both my friends tried it, and couldnt connect
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 20:38
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No way I could have accessed the wrong IP. It was working. Trying now though, it's not working. Have you tried stopping and starting Wamps again?

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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 20:40
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try it now.
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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 20:45
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also, can u tell me what folder the password changer is in?
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 20:45 Edited at: 11th Apr 2009 20:46
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No luck. If you open up services.msc (start > run), you can see if your apache server is turning on. And if not, it might give you an error message as to why.

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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 20:51
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error?! :S

see attached

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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 20:53 Edited at: 11th Apr 2009 20:54
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That would explain why it's not working. Check your system event log for information about why it's not starting.

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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 20:57
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apache BETTER not be a virus! ><

and how EXACTLY do i see what error it is for the microsoft windows vista?
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 21:03 Edited at: 11th Apr 2009 21:04
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haha. Apache is the HTTP server. It's what servers pages to visitors. It's not starting for some unknown reason. The error log will tell you what that reason is. To use the event viewer, see here:

http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/vista/vista_event_viewer.htm

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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 21:10
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found it.

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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 21:14
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Is it the same event all the way through? Sounds like the service doesn't have read/write permissions to its own logs but I know nothing about Apache so meh.

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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 21:15
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yes. i think so. what should i do, jerico?
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 21:22
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That's strange. I'm kind of at a loss. What were you doing between when I tested it and when your friend said it didn't work?

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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 21:23
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nothing? :S

is it b/c vista has write permission or somethin? if so, how can i fix?

can anyone help?
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 21:26
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Read/write permissions have been in place in Windows since the introduction of NTFS. I've never seen an option to change another users' permissions though; only your own.

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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 21:28
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so what can i do?

can anyone help me figure out what this error actually means?
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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 21:44
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jerico? anyone?
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 21:50
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Sorry, I was out. I don't know. Try running "apache start" from a command line and see if it gives you a meaningful error.

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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 21:53
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nope. just gave me a cmd batch error. --

can anyone else please help?
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 21:57 Edited at: 11th Apr 2009 21:58
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Without knowing the exact error, it's pretty hard (im betting the write errors are just silent errors). You could be conflicting with another program that's using port 80. Skype, for instance, uses port 80. Shut off skype or set it to use a different port and you'll be fine.

I can't really help further until I get home and look at how my copy of wampserver is setup in vista.

Also, I assume you uninstalled apache or whatever you were using before you installed wampserver?

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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 22:18
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i hope i did :S

when will u be home?
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 22:38
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Itll be a few hours yet. Not exactly sure. Could be soon, could be 5 hours.

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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 22:40
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well, when u get home & online, go ahead and post in this post saying ur home

ill be here all day
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 22:46
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Would this be better if you two solved this over email? If there's a nice fix you can post it here, but this just sounds like a chat room.

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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 22:50
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id prefer to do it here. email takes forever
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 22:53 Edited at: 11th Apr 2009 22:54
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use Xampp its better http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-windows.html


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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 22:54
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thanks. tried that. the prob im having is above. it cant open logs ><
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 22:57 Edited at: 11th Apr 2009 23:04
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Are you using xampp?

If your on vista make sure you install it in C: not program files. Vista has a different permissions on the Program Files folder to all the other windows OS's.

Also you should be able to access apache's error logs not using the windows event viewer. Find your apache folder and look for a folder called logs. In there there should be something called error.log or something like that. Open it up with notepad and post the contents back here.

Also we can check if apache is running. Goto start->run type services.msc then scroll down the list and look for Apache. Tell us what the status says.

So 3 things:

1. Tell us where it is installed
2. Look for error logs and post it
3. Tell us what the status of the apache service is


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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 23:08
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right. i put it on my usb D:/ incase u wanted to know
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 23:09 Edited at: 11th Apr 2009 23:09
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Ok please answer other questions above, i edited post


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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 23:42
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thank u friends!

it works!

xampp did it!
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Ok


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