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Which one?

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If it was that obvious, would you need to ask?

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I think they're probably equivalent.

If I were to guess, I'd say the Intel processors would last longer as they run cooler and use less electricity.

That said, intel processors have a 3 year warranty, and I'm sure AMD processors have a similar warranty. I'd just buy the one that does what you want.

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Well, do what jerico2day said, but if you want to know, I have an old win95 computer with an original Intel Pentium 1 in it, and its still running great after 12 years of classic games.

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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 18:43 Edited at: 11th Apr 2009 18:46
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But somebody said this:
Quote: "Okay for starters, DO NOT LISTEN TO 'WIZTEK'!. The 'Phenom II' processors are better chips that the intel ones. Intel chips are overclocked when you buy them, which in turn makes them run at a higher heat, causing them to not last as long as an AMD chip. I have been with AMD for the past 8 years and i have never had a problem with one. But i hear numerous stories from intel users who complain about there system failing all the time. :S"


Is it true??? I found that on yahoo answers.

Quote: "If I were to guess, I'd say the Intel processors would last longer as they run cooler and use less electricity."


That is not true! Intel CPUs need a lot of power supply!

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Lol. totally made up and selective reasoning.

Get whichever one you want based on price vs performance. Use tomshardware charts to figure out the best processor.

Both intel or amd chips if not overclocked will last pretty much forever barring any major malfunction from any other part on your computer.

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I'd say it boils down to this; if you want something portable and low power, go Intel. If you want something mid range that offers good "bang for the buck", go AMD. If you want the absolute bleeding edge for some reason, go Intel.

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Well which one is faster? The AMD Phenom 9550 Quad Core or the Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600?

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Use these benchmarks to decide.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/benchmarks,31.html

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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 19:17 Edited at: 11th Apr 2009 19:18
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Actually none are better than the others. They all have there downsides, and good sides. Just go with your personal opinion.

Quote: "Which CPU lasts longer? Intel or AMD?"

Depends how you treat it.
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Posted: 11th Apr 2009 19:21 Edited at: 11th Apr 2009 19:24
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Is it true??? I found that on yahoo answers."


Not really, while the Phenom II is a very good processor, the i7 is more powerful (and more expensive, so it really depends on your needs and budget, for example the i7 only supports DDR3 ram memories, but what I know the Phenom II might also do that... anyway, my point is that the i7 is at the moment more powerful, but also more expensive and so).

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Quote: "Not really, while the Phenom II is a very good processor, the i7 is more powerful (and more expensive, so it really depends on your needs and budget, for example the i7 only supports DDR3 ram memories, but what I know the Phenom II might also do that... anyway, my point is that the i7 is at the moment more powerful, but also more expensive and so).
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Will somebody answer my question? Which one is faster at games like FPSCX10, FPSCX9, Crysis, Fear, Fear 2, Far cry 2, etc. The AMD Phenom 9550 Quad Core? Or the Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600?

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Well, it kind of depends on how you have everything set up...


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Why can't somebody give me a straight answer?!?! Which one will be faster at gaming? AMD Phenom 9550 Quad Core? Or the Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600?!?!?

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You're pretty demanding, aren't you?

Read the posts again. You'll notice that most everybody said they're about the same...

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Because there is no straight answer. It's like saying "what's faster, a SSC Ultimate Aero or an Elise?" when one will slaughter the straights and the other the corners.

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check the benchmarks I gave you. Nobody here can give you a more straightforward answer.

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It is complicated. It is not one factor that decided how well those will run, it is a combination of factors, such as RAM, CPU and graphics card. The CPU won´t matter much if your graphics card sucks or you don´t have enough RAM and so on. In either case, both seem to be very good processors, so I don´t think you would suffer from any of them.

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Quote: "Which CPU lasts longer? Intel or AMD?"

Well in a fight they will draw because neither has hands


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Well a video on youtube said the AMD Phenom 9550 Quad Core was 20% faster then the Intel Quad Q6600. Is that true?

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Ya' know, Google was invented for a reason. Read product reviews and specs and come up with your own conclusion.


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Quote: "Well a video on youtube said the AMD Phenom 9550 Quad Core was 20% faster then the Intel Quad Q6600. Is that true?"


Yes and No.

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What does that mean? AMD was better? Or Intel was better?

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Oh jeez...

THEY'RE EQUAL!!!!!!!



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Quote: "What does that mean? AMD was better? Or Intel was better?"


AMD is better, because I own shares in that company.

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As stated many times, it all depends on what other hardware you have in your computer and what specs those all are.

So we cannot answer this question, because there are too many variables. Jerico summed it up nicely: "Yes and No."

Go for a walk, clear your head and then come back and start doing research using Google. It really is your friend you know.


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Why can't some people understand that there's no universally 'better' brand.

Quote: "Which one is faster at games like FPSCX10, FPSCX9, Crysis, Fear, Fear 2, Far cry 2, etc. The AMD Phenom 9550 Quad Core? Or the Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600?"

It probably doesn't matter, they will most likely both have sufficient power that they'll let the game run as fast as your graphics card can render it.

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The amount of time a processor last is based on how much you use the computer verses how much heat is is subjected to during use, the cooler you keep it the better, cleaner the better as well, regular maintenance on your case can help increase the life of all parts.

But i have a AMD chip that has lasted me over 5 years now.

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Posted: 12th Apr 2009 09:30 Edited at: 12th Apr 2009 09:31
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Quote: "What does that mean? AMD was better? Or Intel was better?"


http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7-6389077-1.html
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2331
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1194
http://www.lockergnome.com/blade/2008/04/11/amd-vs-intel-which-is-better/
http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/techbeat/archives/2005/08/intel_vs_amd.html

that's half the results of the front page of the google search which is better amd intel

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go for AMD since they lowered the cost a bit these days,i heard for 13% less,im having AMD on all my computers,works fine,not one has died,im buying a 3ghz dual core AMD Athlon now,changing my 2.3 dual core Athlon,AMD's can survive without cooling(proved,toms hardware)

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I want a pc with this specs: Acer Aspire AM5200-E5521A (Refurb) AMD Phenom 9550 Quad Core, 4GB DDR2, 640GB, ATI HD 3650 512MB, Super-Multi DVD±R/RW, Audio, GLAN, Card Reader, Keyboard & Mouse Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit. Will it be fast?

Or this will be faster:
Acer AM5620-E5523A (Refurb) Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 + 4GB DDR2 Memory, ATI Radeon HD 3650 512MB DDR3, 640GB HDD, Super-Multi Blu-ray Combo, HD Audio, GLAN , Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit.

I found them at http://www.canadacomputers.com
I saw a video on youtube and it was a test in 4d and the AMD Phenom 9550 was 20% faster the the Intel Core 2 6600. Which one is really faster?

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I'd get a dual core and a 4870 (or whatever) instead of a quad core and a 3650. But it's up to you, do you want faster processing speed, encoding and rendering, or do you want better framerates in games?

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Quote: "I'd get a dual core and a 4870 (or whatever) instead of a quad core and a 3650. But it's up to you, do you want faster processing speed, encoding and rendering, or do you want better framerates in games?
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Dual cores suck and I can't get a 4870 because it takes a lot of power and my house is so old and it sucks because the fuse ALWAYS jumps.

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Quote: "Dual cores suck and I can't get a 4870 because it takes a lot of power and my house is so old and it sucks because the fuse ALWAYS jumps."


Umm, so if your house is old and can't supply the power for a processor, then why are you shopping...?

Not sure what to say about the fuse...get a surge protector? I dunno..


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Quote: "Umm, so if your house is old and can't supply the power for a processor, then why are you shopping...? "


I don't know how much WATTS the computer has. It doesn't tell. And if a video card need 350 WATTS and a processor need 75, can you just use a standard case supply with no WATTS like in IBUYPOWER?

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Oh, I see what you mean.

I honestly don't know the answer to that question, but I'm sure other users on here might...if not, you can always Google around and see if you can find an answer on other forums.


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Quote: "can you just use a standard case supply with no WATTS like in IBUYPOWER"


Huh?

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I mean can you just use a standard power case supply with no WATTS? In IBUYPOWER you can choose a standard power case supply. Will it overheat or something?

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Uh, that's not how electricity works. All power supplies use Watts. All electricity can be measured in Watts.

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Quote: "a standard power case supply with no WATTS?"

I'd like to see that. A power supply that doesn't use any power.

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Add to that, regarding power consumption, it doesn't matter one way or another how many watts your psu can output, just how much of it is used by the parts in the computer. Get an energy efficient psu, and you'll use less power overall.

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I want this computer: http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=020759&cid=170.45
How much WATTS does it take? If it takes a lot, can I change it to a energy efficient psu?

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What does it matter? They've only one in the whole of Canada!

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This is an entertaining thread.

FPS, listen to everbody else. Either you look up the specs online, or buy two computers and compare the speeds, because I seriously doubt anyone else here has both of these processors...

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You realize that symbol was used for thousands of years in Hinduism and Buddhism (among others) before being adopted by the Nazis?

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Sorry. I knew that but I forgot.

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Everyone, can be back on topic please???

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