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hatlawyer
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Posted: 15th Apr 2009 16:34
Apart from the obvious danger of HIV and other deseases are there any other dangers of contact with human blood.
Obviously contact with ones own blood is save as most of us who have ever had a cut on a finger and sucked on it to keep it from going everywhere know.

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Posted: 15th Apr 2009 16:42
Contact with alien blood will burn your skin. So I recommend against that.

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Posted: 15th Apr 2009 17:15
You mean the diseases aren't enough to stop you touching other peoples blood?

Besides transmitting diseases, and the obvious gross factor, and the ''Why aren't you calling me an ambulance?'' factor - biologically, blood should be pretty harmless. Not to say you should touch the stuff though.


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Posted: 15th Apr 2009 17:48
If you get the wrong blood type mixed with your own blood, it will coagulate... That's pretty dangerous if it happens in your blood vessels.

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Posted: 15th Apr 2009 19:22
You're not planning some kind of satanic ritual are you?

Oh and you should avoid zombie blood at all costs.

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Posted: 15th Apr 2009 19:25 Edited at: 15th Apr 2009 19:28
You could always try drinking it before you touch it, if you can survive drinking it I'm sure touching it won't be an issue.
Sorry for the non-constructive post but obviously I don't think it's overly recommended actually touching it in the first place.


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Posted: 15th Apr 2009 19:38
I didn't think touching blood had any effect really, as long as it stays outside your body. It's if it gets in your mouth or if you yourself have an open wound and it gets mixed in then it becomes a problem.
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Posted: 15th Apr 2009 19:46
Of course, if you step into a pool of someone's blood at the top of a concrete staircase, slip and fall down the steps ...

Well I guess that could be pretty dangerous too - even more so if you landed on someone carrying a folded umbrella.
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Posted: 15th Apr 2009 19:50
Quote: "You're not planning some kind of satanic ritual are you?"

Or a christian ritual, drinking the blood of jesus is very popular I've heard. Speaking of zombies...

Yes, what's he up to anyway?

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Posted: 15th Apr 2009 20:26
Quote: "Or a christian ritual, drinking the blood of jesus is very popular I've heard."


I hope that was sarcasm. No, we do not drink blood.

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Posted: 15th Apr 2009 20:33 Edited at: 15th Apr 2009 20:34
Sarcasm? There are christians out there that do pretend to drink the blood of jesus. I thought that was more or less common knowledge.

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Posted: 15th Apr 2009 20:37 Edited at: 15th Apr 2009 20:38
Quote: "Sarcasm? There are christians out there that do pretend to drink the blood of jesus. I thought that was more or less common knowledge."


Well, there are some that think they are....I don't know what their problem is. We actually eat bread and drink a red drink (in our church, that would be grape juice) once a month, and it symbolizes are acceptance of Jesus' sacrifice on the cross. It was never intended to be a way of actually drinking his blood, but Jesus' words got taken literally by many.

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Posted: 15th Apr 2009 21:08
I didn't intend to derail the thread with that.

Perhaps he's moving to mongolia to become a nomad, I hear they drink the blood of their horses there, just enough so that it doesn't kill the horses of course.

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hatlawyer
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Posted: 15th Apr 2009 21:24
lol im not planning any sick setanic/vampire ritual i was just wondering because i remember hearing that it can be lethal to consume someone elses blood.

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Isn't the drinking the blood of Jesus a Catholic thing? Where wine represents the blood and the bread his body, a much less vampiric tradition as opposed to literally drinking blood.

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In UK Church of England is protestant, I seem to recall the words body of christ and blood of christ each time we`re given bread and wine at communion, so I would think its common knowledge over here, at the last supper similar words were said. Any way if you drink human blood you will produce black excrement as we can`t digest it. *hides fangs*
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Posted: 15th Apr 2009 23:08
Quote: "Oh and you should avoid zombie blood at all costs."


Well, that depends on what style of the zombie genre you subscribe to. If you follow the classic, George A. Romero version, it's only the saliva that infects you. However, if you live in the "28 Days Later" world, then yes, zombie blood is bad.
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Posted: 15th Apr 2009 23:44
They're called Universal Precautions.

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Posted: 16th Apr 2009 04:26
Quote: "Apart from the obvious danger of HIV and other deseases are there any other dangers of contact with human blood.
Obviously contact with ones own blood is save as most of us who have ever had a cut on a finger and sucked on it to keep it from going everywhere know."



You definitely need to make sure blood (that is not yours) never, ever comes in contact to or near your eyes, mouth, nose, ears, and open wounds (whether a cut, scrape, burn, acne) or any opening that can lead into your body.

Its best to simply avoid all contact whether on your skin or clothing, as it decreases the chances of diseases being transmitted.

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Posted: 16th Apr 2009 04:53
I presumed it was more dangerous to get another person's blood in contact with an open wound of yours, rather than getting it in your mouth and swallowing it which may also be dangerous but not as high risk. This is based on absolutely no research on my part what so ever and is merely 'I think'.

If you've ever watched one of those television programs that follows police around as soon as somebody spits at them they treat them as if they had just pulled a knife; getting them restrained and under their control as quickly as possible. This is because there are a few (very few, but still some) cases of HIV being spread through a person's spit.

Apparently human bites are pretty nasty as well when it comes to infecting other people.

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Quote: "Apparently human bites are pretty nasty as well when it comes to infecting other people."

This is true, they made a documentary about this called 28 days later. It was so popular that they made a sequel.

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I'm looking forward to 28 months later! I particular like the way they run out of the channel tunnel, to greet the Eiffel Tower. I must admit, I never knew the Channel Tunnel ended in Paris, but I guess Danny Boyle knows best.


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Quote: "I'm looking forward to 28 months later! I particular like the way they run out of the channel tunnel, to greet the Eiffel Tower. I must admit, I never knew the Channel Tunnel ended in Paris, but I guess Danny Boyle knows best. "


Yeah the ending was pretty awesome, though when I thought about it later it was really quite inconsistent (as in, why didn't they get through there before?).
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And more to the point, why would the government deceive us and lead us to believe that the channel tunnel ends in Calais, when clearly it ends in Paris! Either that, or the Eiffel Tower was moved to Calais in order to film a scene from which you could derive that the zombies had infiltrated France! Much more plausible!


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The channel tunnel never ends...
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It's called the chunnel

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Posted: 16th Apr 2009 22:15
Quote: "Or a christian ritual, drinking the blood of jesus is very popular I've heard. Speaking of zombies... "


Roman Catholics say that the wine is turned into the actual blood of jesus, but REAL christians do not teach this.
However, Catholics are not real christians
They do not teach what the bible does, and in fact, there was this period of time called the inquisition when they tortured to death millions over a span of like a hundred years

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How about we keep this on the topic of blood instead of trying to instigate a religious argument.

Anyways, it looks like blood is really only dangerous and capable of spreading infections via internal means. Swallowing blood isn't a good idea on its own, but if you have cold sores in your mouth or any other type of wound, then yes, swallowing it could also pass diseases.

In general, as long as it's only on your skin then you're ok, but it's better to be safe and avoid it completely instead of running the risk that it might come into contact with a small wound or scratch you may not even know about.
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Posted: 16th Apr 2009 22:31 Edited at: 16th Apr 2009 22:32
Quote: "Quote: "Or a christian ritual, drinking the blood of jesus is very popular I've heard. Speaking of zombies... "

Roman Catholics say that the wine is turned into the actual blood of jesus, but REAL christians do not teach this.
However, Catholics are not real christians
They do not teach what the bible does, and in fact, there was this period of time called the inquisition when they tortured to death millions over a span of like a hundred years"



Because the 'real' or 'true' Christian label is something I have a rant for, and something I have pages of arguments to do with, I'll ask politely that your remove that post, and given any Catholics on the forum will no doubt find that offensive. So please, a little respect and tolerance.

Also bear in mind that religious debate is a no-no on this forum and is an easy ticket to getting a thread locked and perhaps a newb slap.

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Posted: 16th Apr 2009 23:46
srry, but i wont edit it unless grandma does, i found grandmas to be quite offensive

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Posted: 16th Apr 2009 23:53 Edited at: 16th Apr 2009 23:55
Perhaps if he said "roman catholic" you wouldn't have been offended. Unless you're a religious type, I doubt anyone would know that it's only a roman catholic tradition. In fact, I thought that was pretty standard christian fair. When I was sent to church as a kid, we were "drinking the blood of christ". Guess we must have been going to a roman catholic church. *shrug*

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no, youd be a cannibal. I'm not starting a debate either thats just what catholics teach

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religion in my opinion is destroying our kind. im not going to take a side, as to not upset anyone. if i did, i apologize.
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Oh I like where this thread is going.

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Posted: 17th Apr 2009 00:40
I'm sorry if my post was offensive, I honestly didn't believe it would be. I know however that it's easy to offend people on this subject. Was it the abscence of me clarifying that it was the catholics, or was it the zombie pun? I thought the latter would be percieved as the non-serious comment it was inteded to be.

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Posted: 17th Apr 2009 01:50 Edited at: 17th Apr 2009 01:52
Reading over Grandma's post, all he said was a true statement. Drinking the blood of Jesus is a Christian tradition. Just because it is one, does not mean that it is believed or practiced by all groups, churches or followers, simply that it is a tradition that is practiced by Christians. If that clarifies anything, sometimes a misunderstood message can leave you feeling offended by something.


Either way, your post is turning this discussion into something that breaks the AUP, your post itself breaks the AUP, so if not for other people, edit your post for your own sake, if a mod feels it necessary they'll enforce the rules. There is a reason why political and religious discussion is not allowed.


However, I am one for religious debate and it sounds like you want to say something, I am always intrigued by other people's religious views, so if you want to take this somewhere else, then say so and then I'll link you onto my website's forums to discuss them and anybody else is welcome to do so as well - just to keep this away from these forums, thought of course there's two requirements, views ought to be respected and things to be done maturely.

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Someone had a cut in practice once, when I did sports before, and they got their blood on my skin, which was not open or anything. Just wash it off, and you're good to go. I've donated blood too, afterwards, so just make sure their blood doesn't make contact with your blood... Got that?
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Posted: 17th Apr 2009 04:41 Edited at: 17th Apr 2009 04:43
Quote: "Reading over Grandma's post, all he said was a true statement. Drinking the blood of Jesus is a Christian tradition. Just because it is one, does not mean that it is believed or practiced by all groups, churches or followers, simply that it is a tradition that is practiced by Christians. If that clarifies anything, sometimes a misunderstood message can leave you feeling offended by something."


It has nothing to do with tradition, it is commanded that we do it. And as stated before, we do not drink actual blood....

Grandma, I understand. Didn't mean to start this, I just wanted to make sure everyone understood.

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Posted: 17th Apr 2009 05:59
Quote: "I'm sorry if my post was offensive, I honestly didn't believe it would be."


I didn't think it was, and I'm a communion-taking guy. The zombie thing made me grin.

Quote: "Apart from the obvious danger of HIV and other deseases are there any other dangers of contact with human blood. "


The only other danger I can think of is that it makes you treat a game dev board like Yahoo answers.

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While I appreciate we're not allowed to have religious debates, let me just say it's called 'Transubstantiation'. Look it up to find out the official stance on the subject, and then we can avoid debating it here.


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Let's cut out the religious talk as it's teetering on debate. I don't think it's a problem to just state your belief but when we start arguing about things it can get a little hairy. This will be locked if it keeps up

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Posted: 17th Apr 2009 18:53
Back to the blood:

I read about some new disease that spreads itself through sexual contact or blood transfer. It doesn't effect the male, but if it infects a female she can no longer bare children...

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The only other danger I can think of is that it makes you treat a game dev board like Yahoo answers.
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This is the geek culture section its designed for off topic discussions.

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I'm reminded of the movie Hostel 2... (The scene with the bath tub, and the girl, and the hanging girl, and the scyth...)

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iirc blood realted maladies such as HIV can only live 20 seconds outside the human body, so if you come into contact with blood in the street, chances are nothing will happen.

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Quote: "iirc blood realted maladies such as HIV can only live 20 seconds outside the human body"


I'm sure that can't be right as stated - if it were, who'd ever worry about donated blood being contaminated by HIV? Whereas we do know for a fact that haemophiliacs have been infected with HIV via infected donated blood. Or is that another myth?

Check your facts and report back.
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Quote: "I'm sure that can't be right as stated - if it were, who'd ever worry about donated blood being contaminated by HIV? Whereas we do know for a fact that haemophiliacs have been infected with HIV via infected donated blood. Or is that another myth?"


I'm sure it's not that quick, maybe a few hours. But if HIV is in a blood sample it's got sustanence and it's going to be frozen too.

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