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Geek Culture / Locked by Author's Request

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Fallout
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Posted: 28th Apr 2009 15:55
I just wanted to raise the subject of locking threads at the 'authors' request. While the "Forum Suggestion" thread prompted this, it's worth mentioning that I wasn't bothered at all when that thread was locked, it was just the catalyst.

It just occured to me that's it wrong to lock a thread when the 'author' requests it. While a single user may be responsible for starting a discussion, they don't own it, and the thread isn't there solely for their benefit. Each thread becomes a discussion between multiple parties that nobody had a right to end, unless it breaks the forum regulations. The only exception I can think of is when the thread starter has become embarassed for some reason (e.g. they've started a thread "I've split up with my girlfriend, help!" and realised how much of a plum it makes them look).

There have been a few threads in the past, locked for no other reason than 'author's request' that I've wanted to contribute too, but couldn't. My opinion is there's no such thing as a single thread author. Everyone who contributes to it has a right to continue discussing the subject while it adheres to the AUP.


dark coder
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Posted: 28th Apr 2009 16:09
I agree, but I don't think it should be allowed to be closed if someone is embarrassed by it(couldn't you claim this in most lock cases anyway?). Perhaps only if the thread starts breaking rules or it has become outdated, i.e. they request the WIP thread locked when they make a Program Announcement.

I also think someone should spend some time fixing the forum code because there are so many small(yet amazingly annoying) issues still lingering for years now.

Van B
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Posted: 28th Apr 2009 16:27
Agreed, personally I would only lock a thread by request if it warranted it - if it was creeping into AUP violation territory, if it was fairly dead already. The problem is though that often when an originator asks for a thread to be locked, it's because they are loosing an argument or something like that - and if we don't lock there's a chance the thread could end up being flamebait.

I would rather lock a thread for little reason than leave a thread to go into flames. I'm not sure people realise just how quickly threads drop onto page 2, I think sometimes it's best to just let a thread go if it isn't going as planned. An abandoned thread is always better than a locked one I guess - I'm not 100% but I think a locked thread looks bad for the originator regardless of cause, even lock requests look bad.
People who click on that 'View all threads created' button and see a lot of padlocks won't get a good impression of you. In that premise it would actually be better to delete the thread.


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KeithC
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Posted: 28th Apr 2009 17:28
In FPSC Land, sometimes the Author requests a lock because their thread has degenerated into something else entirely...or they are creating a new "fresh" thread, and don't want 2 threads of the same thing running...from the same author (which we also don't allow too much).

-Keith

soapyfish
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Posted: 28th Apr 2009 17:42 Edited at: 28th Apr 2009 17:43
Agreed, I don't think a thread should be locked because somebody decides the discussion has ended but I don't think it happens all that often to be fair. Perhaps this thread will be enough to help realise they don't need to ask for threads to be locked just because they've finished with them.

I think a lot more threads would simply fall onto page 2 rather than being locked if people tried to stick to this rule. That whole 'I posted before this was locked' thing is more irritating than Rick rolling.

Can a mod lock this now? Plzkthx.



Dr Tank
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Posted: 28th Apr 2009 19:12
I agree.

In the case of there being two threads for the same thing, this is fair enough, since the conversation can continue in the remaining thread. A link should be at the end of the locked thread to the unlocked one.

Michael P
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Posted: 28th Apr 2009 19:12
On the "Forum Suggestion" thread I was going to say that I can't see a difference in the sticky thread's background colour unless I look at my monitor from an angle, so perhaps the colour should be a bit darker - or I should adjust my monitor settings

David R
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Posted: 28th Apr 2009 19:18
I completely agree. Even if the author's use for the thread has stopped, the topic typically spawns other useful discussions - and whether that's on topic or not, it's still valuable (and interesting)


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