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Pus In Boots
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I've been listening to more metal lately, mainly through Slipknot and System of a Down. I want to hear more, but I wanna know if any of the metal heads here can recommend some bands. Not too heavy, more like Slipknot's "All Hope Is Gone" album. Insane death metal will never be for me.

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I don't really like slipknot, but SOAD was good when they were around

There are many genres of Metal, or sub-genres really. There's everything from Blind Guardian, who sing about elves and lord of the rings type stuff, to bands like star one who give more of the techy-science fiction feel.

Personally, I enjoy metal like Symphony X and the previously stated Blind Guardian. Of course, these bands sound very little like Slipknot. heres just some good bands I can get off the top of my head:

Symphony X
Blind Guardian
Nightwish (Opera Metal-y, likely not for u XD)
Iron Maiden (i consider it power metal but can b argued....)
Star One (space-y metal)
Rob Zombie/White Zombie ( industrial )
Tarot (heavy power metal)


I really suggest Checking out Symphony X's Serpants Kiss and Tarot's Bleeding Dust, amazing underrated bands. none of the listed bands are scream or death metal or anything.

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Posted: 5th Jun 2009 01:02 Edited at: 5th Jun 2009 01:03
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Opeth.

Nightwish is good too. Or Static-X.


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oh man I missed Opeth whats wrong with me!

thanks Venge, I was gonna write Static-x too but theyre last album seemed a lttle too screamo to me, I personally liked their older stuff more the "evil disco' stuff that is

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Rammstein

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Check out Metallica, Exodus, Testament, Megadeth, Overkill, Tankard, Anthrax, and Vio-lence. Those are my favorite bands.

I also think Death Metal is a bit over the top. I can stand some of the more tame bands, like Sepultura and Kreator (it's arguable that Kreator is Death Metal, but I say they are), but stuff like Cannibal Corpse is just stupid.

I think the subgenre of Metal that you're trying to describe is Thrash Metal. It's pretty much Death Metal, except not as oppresively dark and without the corny demonic growling. Used to be really big for a Metal genre in the mid to late 80s, and it has many derivatives: Black Metal (like the German band Destruction), Groove Metal (like Pantera), Death Metal, Crossover Thrash (like D.R.I.), and a few others. You may have also heard of "Speed Metal", which is just an alternate name for Thrash Metal.

Look on Wikipedia, it's an invaluable source of info on this and countless other kinds of stuff.

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Posted: 5th Jun 2009 03:59 Edited at: 5th Jun 2009 03:59
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You like Huey Lewis and the News?

Their early work was a little too New Wave for my taste. But then Sports came out in 1983, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically.

The whole album has a clear, crisp sound and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that gives the songs a big boost.

He's been compared to Elvis Costello but I think Huey has a more bitter, cynical sense of humor.

In '87 Huey released Fore!, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip To Be Square," a song so catchy that most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity and the importance of trends. It's also a personal statement about the band itself.

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Just thought I should add Rhapsody of Fire to Krownsnest's list of fantasy-themed metal bands. Really great in my opinion.

I can also recommend Sonata Arctica, which is somewhat more mainstream power metal.

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Posted: 5th Jun 2009 11:37 Edited at: 5th Jun 2009 11:38
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Opeth is a must. Their album Watershed is a masterpiece.

I'll pick out a list of good ones on my computer:

Alestorm - Pirate Metal (it's a fun band more than anything)
Amon Amarth - Viking Metal (it's harder and less folky than other Viking bands)
Anaal Nathrakh - These sound quite extreme, I don't know if they'll be anybody's cup of tea.
Anathema - a very good Doom Metal band - they seem to have a Pink Floyd influence, certainly as they keep covering their songs. Their music can vary a bit.
At the Gates - the fathers of the 'Gothenburg' sound, a Swedish melodic kind of death metal - it's because of these we get bands like In Flames
Behemoth - Polish blackened death metal band.
Black Label Society - I should hope you already know of these - the frontman, Zack Wilde has played for Ozzy Osbourne.
Blind Guardian - power and folk metal
Chimaira - a mainstream metal band
Dimmu Borgir - Norwegian melodic black metal band (one of my favourite bands)
Haggard - folk metal, though they've very much focused on the folk, their band is quite large as they don't cheat and use keyboards to get that symphonic sound. They tend to carry a lot of fantasy themes, heck the album 'Tales of Ithiria' has a narrator
The Haunted - a gothenburg band
Iced Earth - power metal, and a top notch band
Kamelot - a gothic band with a very good singer - highly recommended, I went to see them a couple of months ago and wow! They were really good.
Katatonia - a good doom metal band from Sweden
Mayhem - one of the top guys for black metal, and one of those bands that have stories associated with them, some might find them quite sick.
Metallica - of course I'd say keep away from St Anger and earlier albums are better.
Nevermore - the guys are really good (currently listening)
Nightwish - a high recommendation, they're an operatic sort of metal, the lead singer (and ex-lead singer) are very good and a real treat to watch live.
One Minute Silence - A Nu metal band from Ireland, very political, though they've split up now.
Paradise Lost
Stratovarius - a power/symphonic metal band, it was their sound that influenced Nightwish
Symphony X - a symphonic metal band, with some quite epic track, Diving Wings of Tragedy is about 20 minutes long.
The Tarjas - Ex-Nightwish vocalist Tarja's band, basically what she decided to do after leaving. Though the album seems to be a moan at Nightwish, it's good to listen to.
Ted Maul - adreneline fueled, as are their mosh pits, their music is quite extreme and they sometimes mix in with a bit of DnB, which works well.

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The best of the best.
Deep Purple, Led Zep.

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Similar to Slipknot which I have on my ipod:

Disturbed
DevilDriver
Enter Shikari (kind of... But I'd recommend you give them a listen)
MAXIMUM THE HORMONE
Mudvayne
Mushroomhead (Saviour Sorrow album only)
Stone Sour
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Ozone
George Michael
Britney spears
Sputnik
Justin timberlake
50 cent

Best

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Posted: 5th Jun 2009 16:11
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Don't forget Michael Jackson I love the heavy bass line in Beat It.
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Posted: 5th Jun 2009 16:21
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That's a little too "instane death metal" for me.

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Quote: "That's a little too "instane death metal" for me."


Yet you have Britney Spears on there, a little hypocritical of you.

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But Michael Jackson does promote violence, killing and horror. Songs such as Thriller and Beat It are good examples. I think this is why Grandma thinks it is too insane.
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Quote: "Ozone
George Michael
Britney spears
Sputnik
Justin timberlake
50 cent

Best
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How could you leave out Julie Andrews with "Sound of Music"
"The hills are alive..." Sounds like sci-fi heavy metal.

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Thriller is full of violent and sexual themes that are simply innappriate for our youths, how can an immoral society such as ours give praise to such songs? For goodness sakes we live in a time where the moral fabric of society is being torn apart by all these extreme music and Micheal Jackson is a terrible example for our youths. Luring a girl into a graveyard full of dancing zombies? What kind of sick and horrfic messages are you trying to send our children? That the undead must use our women? How sexist! Micheal objectifies women in the video and that, frankly is quite sickening!

I'd much rather listen to the quiet soothing sounds of classical music like Mayhem or Gorgoroth, as they has some quite esquisite pieces of music, fine examples to society and no violent themes what-so-ever, except animal heads on stage, but animal slaughter is just fine, it teaches our youth that we must be resourceful and appreciate the things mother nature has given us, as demonstrated by worship on stage.

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Quote: "Yet you have Britney Spears on there, a little hypocritical of you."

Yes well, everyone makes exceptions for Britney. You don't?

Quote: "But Michael Jackson does promote violence, killing and horror. Songs such as Thriller and Beat It are good examples. I think this is why Grandma thinks it is too insane."

Close, it's because he has a hat.

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Quote: "Yes well, everyone makes exceptions for Britney. You don't?"


That all depends on whether she is armed with a brolly and in some sort of frenzied destructive rage.

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Posted: 5th Jun 2009 23:18 Edited at: 5th Jun 2009 23:19
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Quote: "I've been listening to more metal lately, mainly through Slipknot and System of a Down. "

Any other bands to list? And TBH Slipknot and SOaD aren't considered metal...

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Behemoth - Polish blackened death metal band.
>>>No! Not THEY again! (sorry, but I may be just allergic to their music) If you wand a good polish band, check Vader (heaily Slayer-influenced Death Metal), Decapitated (also Death Metal), Riverside (Prog-Metal), Rootwater (well, I dunno) or if you want more metalcore'ish stuff, check Sweet Noise (more like Alternative/Hardcore Metal) or Frontside (but IIRC both sing in polish so it might be a problem, but Sweet Noise has some english songs)

Black Label Society - I should hope you already know of these - the frontman, Zack Wilde has played for Ozzy Osbourne.
>>>In case you dont know: their genre is Hard Rock/Stoner/Heavy Metal

Blind Guardian - power and folk metal
>>>Not Sure if the bard-ish image and sound is enough to be folk, but still awesome...

Chimaira - a mainstream metal band
>>>Weren't they just Metalcore?

Iced Earth - power metal, and a top notch band
>>>Yup, it's great American Power Metal and if you like it, you may try Demons & Wizards, a side-project of Iced Earth's Guitarist - Jon Schaffer and Blind Guardian's singer - Hansi Kursch. IMO better than both IE and BG...

Kamelot - a gothic band with a very good singer - highly recommended, I went to see them a couple of months ago and wow! They were really good.
>>>It's a Symphonic Power Metal band, not gothic (just like Nightwish). If you wand a good Gothic Metal band check out Moonspell. Their work is truly beautiful...

Metallica - of course I'd say keep away from St Anger and earlier albums are better.
>>>Why? I liked St. Anger. It was "diffrent", but it wasn't bad. But yeah, their first 3 albums are best (through 4th and latest one ar also awesome)...

Symphony X - a symphonic metal band, with some quite epic track, Diving Wings of Tragedy is about 20 minutes long.
>>> A Progressive Metal band with symphonic/neoclassic influences. If you like them, check out Dream Theater. Also prog, but not symphonical.
And "Diving"? Lol...
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Quote: "The best of the best.
Deep Purple, Led Zep."

They are Hard Rock, not Metal...

Quote: "Ozone"

Well, one of the guys from O-Zone has been in a Doom-Gothic Metal band (Proof). I'll comment that only with a short "ZOMFGLULWUT???"

Quote: "You may have also heard of "Speed Metal", which is just an alternate name for Thrash Metal."

No, it isn't. Speed Metal is f. ex. Helloween's "Walls Of Jerricho" album. Probably the first Power Metal album was their next work: "The Keeper Of The Seven Keys". You can say it's a bit more heavy-metalish, rawer and less melodcic version of Power Metal...

Quote: "Iron Maiden (i consider it power metal but can b argued....)"
They're perfect example of NWOBHM (New Wave Of British Heavy Metal) band. But yeah, they, Judas Priest and Dio were probably biggest influences for Power Metal...



Well, if you like Slipknot and SOaD, you may like some Industrial Metal, like Ministry, KMFDM, Skinny Puppy (you may also like some more synth-oriented electroindustrial bands like Samael, The Kovenant or Deathstars) and Groove Metal, like Sepultura, Pantera or Machine Head. Also you may check already suggested Disturbed (well, they're metal-souding Hard Rock, not Metal, but still...) or Stone Sour (second band of Corey Taylor and Jim Root). If you like System, you can try Haximum The Hormone (Post-Hardcore mixed with many diffrent genres, From funk through Rock, to Pop. WARNING: they sing in japanese), Scars on Broadway and Serj Tankian (but you may know them, those are SOaD members' work after split-up).
Cant think of many more, but if I were making just a "Good Metal Bands" list it would be faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar bigger...

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Quote: "Just thought I should add Rhapsody of Fire to Krownsnest's list of fantasy-themed metal bands. Really great in my opinion.
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good idea, liked them better when they were just Rhapsody thou

my taste in music isn't weird, its just so amazing your ears haven't quite adapted to it yet.
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Kamelot has gothics themes, that's how I'll deal with that one.

But we are cursed by having so many different names to describe the different kinds of metal really, but I do try my best to get them right.

With St Anger, I really didn't like it - yes it was different, but unfortunately an album I felt doesn't show Metallica at their best. Death Magnetic on the other hand I felt was a much better album for new material. But that's all opinion, really.

Vader is a good band, you're right, though I don't have any of their stuff. Behemoth is a band I quite like for when it comes to having something that's fast and quite loud.

Quote: "Cant think of many more, but if I were making just a "Good Metal Bands" list it would be faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar bigger..."


Yes, hence I just resorted to my Winamp playlist.

Quote: ""Diving"? Lol..."


Unfortunate typo, 'Divine', sorry.

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Some of my favorite bands:

-In Flames ( Melodic Death Metal )
-Darkest Hour ( Melodic Death Metal )
-Threat Signal ( Melodic Death Metal )
-Demon Hunter ( Christian Metal ), even though it has christian themes it's still very good
-Thrice ( Similar to Rise Against )

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St Anger is definately Metallica's worst album. It isn't bad in and of itself, but compared to ...And Justice For All and Master of Puppets, it's pathetic. Death Magnetic is much closer to their first five albums (although even it isn't as good as them)

Quote: "No, it isn't. Speed Metal is f. ex. Helloween's "Walls Of Jerricho" album."


Well, it's very similar.

Quote: "But that's all opinion, really."


No, it's not. There's no solos in St Anger, and the overall quality of the song writing is very low. It's really a shame, because Metallica has shown (in the past) that they're better musicians than that. The thwong sound of the drums is annoying to most (myself included), but I suppose that IS opinion. But for me, the only thing that slightly redeems the album is the heaviness, which was disapointingly absent in the Load albums. But even if you like everything else about St Anger, I don't see how anybody could get past the hollow and unsophisticated song writing.

But anyway, this thread isn't about St Anger.

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Seether,three days grace, Papa Roach all very good band (not exactly heavy metal but still)

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Quote: "Quote: "The best of the best.
Deep Purple, Led Zep."
They are Hard Rock, not Metal...
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They were the real McCoy. The originators of the genre.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Purple
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin

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Good metal bands do not exist.

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I absolutely love the first 2. Probably my favorite bands ever.

Demon Hunter
August Burns Red
All That Remains
Haste The Day
Otep
In This Moment
As I lay Dying
Underoath
Unearth

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Quote: "Good metal bands do not exist."

Wrong.

These metal bands are very good.


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