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I figured why not have a Bioshock 2 thread since we have a Left 4 Dead 2 thread. Post anything to do with BioShock 2. Are you going to buy it? is the Big sister an interesting character? what do you think will happen in Bioshcok 2? will Jack make an appearance as a NPC? will you be able to adopt the little sisters? will Sander Cohen make an appearance seeing as he's still living in rapture? will you pay 50-60 bucks for it? You get the idea.

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Well hopefully Andrew Ryan makes a comeback, he made the first game pretty interesting. Atlas won't be back for sure though.

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First game is rated in my top 5 so i'm definately going to be getting it.

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Bioshock 2 I think for me too is a must. I think playing as a Big Daddy is quite a cool change, as I was disappointed in the first one where you went around getting the big daddy parts but not actually become one. It lead me up to thinking, "I'm going to fight the final boss as a big daddy". Walking in the ocean outside of rapture is perhaps a cool change of scenery.

And the Harvest vs Adopt moral option will perhaps make me less cruel than when it was Harvest or Save. Obviously I was going to harvest, saving added nothing extra to the game and at least by harvesting I got more Adam. Saying that, Tenenbaum made me feel really guilty with the ending I got. I will learn my lesson for Bioshock 2 and adopt my own little sisters throughout.

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Quote: "Well hopefully Andrew Ryan makes a comeback, he made the first game pretty interesting. Atlas won't be back for sure though."


If he some how comes back from the dead..Who else foresees a twist in the second one? I mean come on, did anyone really know Atlas was really fontaine the first time you've played it?

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Quote: "If he some how comes back from the dead..Who else foresees a twist in the second one? I mean come on, did anyone really know Atlas was really fontaine the first time you've played it?"


You need to pay more attention when you play games. In case of spoiling the first game for people who haven't played it, I'll put this in a code block.



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Damn, sorry, i thought everyone played it. my bad.

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No I didn't mean you were spoiling it, I guess those sentences shouldn't be converged lol. What I meant was, you should spend more time looking at the plot of games and seeing things that might otherwise be hidden if you rush through it. Some games can have some really hidden messages.

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Man, I still haven't finished one yet It was really good though.

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Wooo, this is game that i actually enjoyed . Hopefully the next one is good as the first one.
And lets not forget the Bioshock's ultimate feature, Tallscreen Gaming.

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Quote: "Wooo, this is game that i actually enjoyed . Hopefully the next one is good as the first one.
And lets not forget the Bioshock's ultimate feature, Tallscreen Gaming."


there's something i didn't know about it.. might try that.

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Posted: 12th Jun 2009 16:10 Edited at: 12th Jun 2009 16:18
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Quote: "I figured why not have a Bioshock 2 thread since we have a Left 4 Dead 2 thread. Post anything to do with BioShock 2. Are you going to buy it? is the Big sister an interesting character? what do you think will happen in Bioshcok 2? will Jack make an appearance as a NPC? will you be able to adopt the little sisters? will Sander Cohen make an appearance seeing as he's still living in rapture? will you pay 50-60 bucks for it? You get the idea."


I killed him . Sander Cohen that is. But it would be nice to see him return as a bigger roll... he was twisted in a way that would make a good villian! Ok, he was a villian, just that he could have been a bigger one... so to speak.

Will take a closer look at this, loved the first game .

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Quote: "Wooo, this is game that i actually enjoyed . Hopefully the next one is good as the first one.
And lets not forget the Bioshock's ultimate feature, Tallscreen Gaming."


Omg, I could not stop laughing... that guy is crazy in Tallscreen Gaming!

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Hehe, Tallscreen, is that like the display ratios we had on 80's arcade cabinets - hardly anything new, nor are the benefits. But it does look like a nice way to play the more closed in FPS games like Bioshock and HL2. I think it might be pretty nice for a RTS game as well, a fully 3D one I mean, where you may want to rotate the camera to look around - with a tall ratio you'd see for miles .

Bioshock is another one of those games that I plan to play through just as soon as. I'm almost done with the incredible Farcry2 so maybe Bioshock will get tackled next. I have played it a little of course, and it looks like the sort of thing I will get into, it's just timing that is the problem as I prefer to play a game solidly until it's complete, kinda like to get them out of the way.
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I got a good giggle out of that video.

I started playing bioshock again just before christmas but haven't touched it since february, i'll pick it back up. Thanks for reminding me Van, i put quite a bit of time into FC2 and have yet to complete it. I also have to pay a game through to the end, the only ones i've got here that needs to be completed is Mass Effect and Silent Hill but I really can't get into Mass Effect and i don't know why...

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Ditto with Mass Effect, I so looked forward to that game, then just couldn't be bothered with it. I ended up giving it to my brothers flatmate just to annoy him (my brother - hates RPG's).

I don't know what it is, but the 50/60's seem to provide a lot of inspiration to artists. I mean Bioshock is has an amazing environment, quite removed from other FPS games. And Fallout3, although a but dreary, everything is tangible if you know what I mean. Personally I don't think this has gone unnoticed - went to see Terminator4 on Tuesday and I swear they must have played both Fallout3 and Farcry2, more Fallout3 though obviously - the first quarter of T4 is especially reminiscent.
Incidently, I thought T4 was pretty damn good, better than the typical teen horrors and regurgitated rom-com scripts that critics seem to favor.


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BIOSHOCK SPOILERS AHOY:



No more Spoilers here on:

I like the new Big Sister. And I think the new save/harvest system will provide a larger moral choice (unlike the original).
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ANOTHER SPOILER - Response to Dared1111:



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Possibly a spoiler, response to Seppuku.

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I think I read that at least part of Bioshock 2 will be a prequel, taking place in 1959. So it's possible that Andrew Ryan and Fontaine will be back.

EDIT: I guess the multiplayer is set before the first game, but single player is 10 years after.

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I'm confused as to how the single player can be set ten years after the original if the big daddy you control is only a "prototype" - since this is the explanation given for why it has free will (as described by many previews + official press releases) Or have they done a u-turn recently on that?

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David, if it's a proto-type then it suggests that it is set before.

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Quote: "David, if it's a proto-type then it suggests that it is set before."


Re-read his post.

I too am really looking forward to this. I absolutely loved the first one--it's one of the few FPSes that I've thoroughly enjoyed, from start to finish.

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Quote: "Ditto with Mass Effect, I so looked forward to that game, then just couldn't be bothered with it. I ended up giving it to my brothers flatmate just to annoy him (my brother - hates RPG's)."

Right, i'm going to off to play it now and i will enjoy it..

Quote: "I don't know what it is, but the 50/60's seem to provide a lot of inspiration to artists. I mean Bioshock is has an amazing environment, quite removed from other FPS games. And Fallout3, although a but dreary, everything is tangible if you know what I mean. Personally I don't think this has gone unnoticed - went to see Terminator4 on Tuesday and I swear they must have played both Fallout3 and Farcry2, more Fallout3 though obviously - the first quarter of T4 is especially reminiscent."

Yeah, i went through a phase like that, pretty much basing a lot of art on the 1960's vision of the future, its really interesting to see how people percieved the future 40 years ago. I was always begging for a game that would nail it perfectly and then along came fallout 3.
Quote: "Incidently, I thought T4 was pretty damn good, better than the typical teen horrors and regurgitated rom-com scripts that critics seem to favor."

I'm off to see that soon, made a point of seeing the rest and Christian Bale is one of the few actors that i don't truly despise.

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Quote: "If he some how comes back from the dead..Who else foresees a twist in the second one?"


No, I have to disagree. The death of Andrew Ryan was a very deliberate, purposeful event. Forget about that vita-chamber crap for one second. The developers won't resurrect him from the dead. However, I reckon Ryan's long-term impact on the world of Rapture will be present throughout the game and his legacy will permeate throughout the game.

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Quote: "I think I read that at least part of Bioshock 2 will be a prequel, taking place in 1959. So it's possible that Andrew Ryan and Fontaine will be back."


No, just went to youtube to see more from it, and it takes place many years after the first game. I think that was what they said anyway.

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Quote: "I'm confused as to how the single player can be set ten years after the original if the big daddy you control is only a "prototype" - since this is the explanation given for why it has free will (as described by many previews + official press releases) Or have they done a u-turn recently on that?"

It is 10 years later, but you play the original Big Daddy, which still exists 10 years after Bioshock 1, but was created before Bioshock 1.


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Quote: "I think I read that at least part of Bioshock 2 will be a prequel, taking place in 1959."


The multiplayer is the prequel part of the game. The single-player takes place ten years after the original.

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