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Geek Culture / [LOCKED] Pirate Bay sold to game firm

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draknir_
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Posted: 5th Jul 2009 13:06
@IanM: Very, very well said.

Copyright laws and protection world wide are in dire need of reform IMO.
Drew Cameron
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Posted: 7th Jul 2009 14:51
I think reform, but they should NOT be scraped. Why shouldn't people who make music, games and films be paid for their work?

I think changing the terms of "fair use" would be a start. I'd also like to see "sampling" become legal.

Jeku
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Posted: 7th Jul 2009 17:58
Quote: "I'd also like to see "sampling" become legal."


Sampling is legal, as long as the original author gets a form of payment. That is completely fair.

draknir_
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Posted: 7th Jul 2009 22:04 Edited at: 7th Jul 2009 22:05
Quote: "I think reform, but they should NOT be scraped. Why shouldn't people who make music, games and films be paid for their work?"


Did I say people shouldn't be paid for their work?
Dared1111
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Posted: 7th Jul 2009 22:47
Pirating should be penalised or severely restricted, but I agree with Insanity Complex, that in some cases companies are TOO defensive and are destroying emerging media, harassing smaller companies (looking at you Tim Langdell) and calling infringement on things which are not, such as parody.

People dont see what they're doing to the companies they "love".

DocSpoc
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Posted: 9th Jul 2009 17:17
1: YAY FOR PIRACY!

2: TBP doesn't have any logs of connections to the site, and I'm confident they won't sell us out.

3: Read this - http://suprbay.org/showthread.php?t=57484

I know I'm not really pushing the conversation along, however I DO like to speak my mind.

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AndrewT
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Posted: 9th Jul 2009 19:10
If I were a mod here, I swear I would ban every user that made a post like the one above mine.

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Insanity Complex
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Posted: 9th Jul 2009 22:05
Quote: "1: YAY FOR PIRACY!"


>.>
<.<

seriously?


www.aeriagames.com <-They have some decent ones
DocSpoc
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Posted: 9th Jul 2009 22:29
Quote: "If I were a mod here, I swear I would ban every user that made a post like the one above mine."


Why's that?

Quote: ">.>
<.<

seriously?"


Seriously. Although, I assure you, I did buy FPSC, because the bonanza was a good deal.

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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 10th Jul 2009 00:01
Quote: "Quote: "If I were a mod here, I swear I would ban every user that made a post like the one above mine."

Why's that?"


Perhaps the, 'Yay for piracy' comment? This is a forum that is generally against piracy, certainly discussions to do with piracy and anything illegal is prohibited in the AUP. Why should the rest of us lot pay for a product you're going to pirate it? And put up with the annoyances of piracy protection like SecuRom?

AndrewT
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Posted: 10th Jul 2009 00:09 Edited at: 10th Jul 2009 00:09
Quote: ""Quote: "If I were a mod here, I swear I would ban every user that made a post like the one above mine."

Why's that?""


Um, because this is a game-making community, and you're pretty much admitting to stealing games? As well as everything that Seppuku mentioned.

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TheComet
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Posted: 10th Jul 2009 00:20
Let DocSpoc express his mind... I agree with him.

Quote: "Perhaps the, 'Yay for piracy' comment? This is a forum that is generally against piracy, certainly discussions to do with piracy and anything illegal is prohibited in the AUP."


So this thread and everyone in it should be banned?

Quote: "Why should the rest of us lot pay for a product you're going to pirate it? And put up with the annoyances of piracy protection like SecuRom?"


Because he can.

Quote: "Um, because this is a game-making community, and you're pretty much admitting to stealing games? As well as everything that Seppuku mentioned."


He's not admitting to stealing games, is he? It could be music, or videos... "YAY FOR PIRACY!" could have even meant to be ironic...

And also, I think a LOT of you use LimeWire. That is just as bad.

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Posted: 10th Jul 2009 00:55 Edited at: 10th Jul 2009 01:01
Whilst I don't think he should be banned for the comment, you can't expect to get a good reaction from those who agree with piracy and celebrate it. I google searched 'Dark Shader' earlier today to see what people had done with it, and on the first page of results there were links to torrents for downloading it, so TGC itself is a victim of piracy. As soon as you make a game for money and it become mildly successful, it'll get pirated; when you're a small business, you're not getting the sort of money you should be getting. But if it were music or videos, then it's no better.


Quote: "Quote: "Why should the rest of us lot pay for a product you're going to pirate it? And put up with the annoyances of piracy protection like SecuRom?"

Because he can."


Yes and I can beat the crap out of an old lady, but it doesn't make it right.

Quote: "And also, I think a LOT of you use LimeWire. That is just as bad."


Make no assumptions; if you're downloading legal stuff on a torrent, then what's the problem? Torrenting is legal. Torrenting legal content is legal. Torrenting illegal content isn't. I don't use lime wire - I've used bit torrent to obtain things that required me to torrent (nothing illegal), though I have no use for it anymore. Nothing illegal. I buy my music, I watch TV on my television and I buy or rent my DVDs and I purchase my video games and my game creating/3d software is all legal, I've either had to pay for it, or use a free altnerative - I hate my main 3D modeller, but I live with it instead of pirating the app I want. Once I can spare the cash, I'll buy the app.



Though I do ask, what is so great about a piracy?

DocSpoc
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Posted: 10th Jul 2009 01:35
The "Yay for piracy!" comment wasn't ment to be ironic, and it's not an admission for stealing anything. It's just a way of speaking of my opinion on the matter.

Quote: " "Quote: "Why should the rest of us lot pay for a product you're going to pirate it? And put up with the annoyances of piracy protection like SecuRom?"

Because he can.""


Quote: "Yes and I can beat the crap out of an old lady, but it doesn't make it right. "


Doesn't it?... Nah, I'm kidding.

Anyways, as long as there is people on the internet, there will be pirating. It's human nature. Why should you part with $100 of your hard earned cash to get something you can easily get for free? Yes, it does seem unfair, on the people who baught the product, however life isn't fair in general. So, as my PE teacher used to say: "Tough.". :\

Also, stop accusing me of things without any proof. This is only stating my opinion - as I've said. Sure, you can critisise (spelling.. :S) it. As long as it is critisism. And I expect you lot to know the boundries of it.

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Kevin Picone
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Posted: 10th Jul 2009 05:27
Quote: " Anyways, as long as there is people on the internet, there will be pirating. It's human nature. Why should you part with $100 of your hard earned cash to get something you can easily get for free? Yes, it does seem unfair, on the people who baught the product, however life isn't fair in general. So, as my PE teacher used to say: "Tough.". "


It's not just the paying customers that suffer, It's everybody in the supply chain that brings a product to market. These are real everyday people ..

Jeku
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Posted: 10th Jul 2009 05:34
Quote: "Anyways, as long as there is people on the internet, there will be pirating. It's human nature. Why should you part with $100 of your hard earned cash to get something you can easily get for free? Yes, it does seem unfair, on the people who baught the product, however life isn't fair in general. So, as my PE teacher used to say: "Tough.". :\"


And here's what I say: TOUGH for YOU.

Did you not read the AUP? Discussing the pleasure of pirating software is against the rules on this forum and you're getting a slap for a week. Next time read the rules before posting and you'll do fine.

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Posted: 10th Jul 2009 05:35
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