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David iz cool
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Posted: 19th Jul 2009 17:20
i stumbled on this website where the guy said an investigator of nasa accidentally recorded a tape between nasa and the space shuttle and on the tape the astronauts were telling nasa the ufo is still at visible range. i think thats all the tape was.not very much.

anyway i think it was some kind of hoax.
i dont believe in ufos myself. how about you guys??
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Posted: 19th Jul 2009 17:35
I believe in the concept of flying objects occasionally being unidentifiable.
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Posted: 19th Jul 2009 17:43
Yep, I believe in them. We can't be the only ones in the universe, can we? And we also can't be the most intelligent ones, can we?

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Posted: 19th Jul 2009 17:56
I see a light in the sky... UFO. I see something else in the sky... It must be a UFO!!!!

I believe there are other life forms out there in the universe. I don't think they spy on us or any of that mumbo-jumbo.

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Posted: 19th Jul 2009 18:16 Edited at: 19th Jul 2009 18:20
Anything that's flying but I don't know what it is, then I'll believe in it, because I know you can't always identify an object that's flying or in some culture they might not understand the concept of 'airplane' or helicopter, so they can't really identify them.


But aliens? I neither believe or disbelieve in their existence, I think it is likely that they exist because there are so many planets out there and I'm sure that the Earth isn't the only one capable of holding life-forms and it's quite possible that if these planets exist and hold other life, then they could be more advanced.


Nasa conspiracies? There's always going to be conspiracy theories often or not they're just speculation or just people's imagination or both, I mean there are people that still believe that the Earth is flat, they've even got their own map.

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Posted: 19th Jul 2009 18:17
I don't know about aliens, but I definitely believe that some object are indeed unidentified.

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Posted: 19th Jul 2009 18:36
Pedanticism aside, no, I don't. If aliens were to discover our existence, why would they spy on us and keep hidden? That would suggest they have enough technology to a) contact us or b) kill us all without fear.

So no to UFOs. Yes to aliens.

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Posted: 19th Jul 2009 19:08
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Posted: 19th Jul 2009 19:16
Do you believe in aliens is a same questions like DO you believe in god?

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Posted: 19th Jul 2009 19:19
Obviously yes to UFO's, but you are obviously asking about UFO's with aliens inside, which I don't believe are real. If there was life intelligent enough to visit us, they would at least have cloaking technology to hide their giant circular ships from us. I think there's a good chance there is other intelligent life there, BUT I don't think any of them have the technology to travel any kind of distance (through bending space-time or some how going faster than the speed of light). I think that any species intelligent enough to do that will have killed themselves off or been destroyed by some mega-disaster before they reach that point (and I think it's likely we will too). Example of what I mean by mega-disaster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYgEwXWilUc


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Posted: 19th Jul 2009 19:50
Of course I do!

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Posted: 19th Jul 2009 20:04
I don't believe in UFO's with aliens in them because I don't believe in aliens. I wish aliens were real because that would be totally awesomeness but I don't believe in them.
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Posted: 19th Jul 2009 20:05
There's trillions of planets in billions of galaxies, quasars.... theres got to be something, right? I swear I saw something like a ufo in the sky last night at the fireworks in our town ( yeah, we're late to the 4th of july... not enough funding for the show....). What I DONT believe is all that conspiracy crap, though the upcoming movie, District 9, seems to play a nice joke on that concept.

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Posted: 19th Jul 2009 20:39
Quote: "Do you believe in aliens is a same questions like DO you believe in god?"


Except not; unless you mean from a purely empirical standpoint. One proposition there is more far-fetched than the other. After all, we exist, and life has existed here for what? 4.6 billion years and given the amount of stars in the universe(trillions upon trillions) and on average they all probably harbour many planets and we don't even know what other types of life can form in various conditions. Thus I think the odds of extraterrestrial life existing or having existed in the past is incredibly close to 1.

As for UFO sightings on Earth being actual aliens? I highly doubt it, as the evidence is beyond poor and what advocates of 'aliens' pass as evidence is just stupid most of the time, making them not credible at all. I guess we'll have to wait for the 'true' first contact, which would have to be verified by multiple credible scientific sources with almost no chance it could be faked before I start taking it seriously.

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Posted: 19th Jul 2009 21:13
I hope i will be still alive to see that, 'True' contact with aliens. And not contact in the meaning of a Laser or something...

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Posted: 19th Jul 2009 21:13
I believe there are machines that are beyond what what we think can built at this time, Plus when someone has caught something on video, it will never be clear what is there because we do not all have a 60inch mirror telescope to film them. Which what they use to film the shuttle.

Take things like a mouse and a lightpen all made an used in the fifties before anyone knew what computer was.

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Posted: 19th Jul 2009 22:09
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Posted: 19th Jul 2009 22:45
If aliens were intelligent they'd keep away from us Humans.


Seriously though everybody is going to go nuts to what I'm about to say and it may even be against the AUP but this is what I believe and even to my peers I have some really weird theories.

Aliens are demons or fallen angels if you want to call them that. The reason why they use technology is because the only being that can create anything from nothing is God... because they are no longer in Gods good graces and stuck on Earth they have to use technology like us.

Why do they have higher technology than us you ask? Considering they have been around since before The Earth was created and they hung out with God... I'm sure they have a better grasp of the laws of nature that God created than our smartest scientists. Because they can (if they choose) to not be seen by us anybody that talks about or experiments with new technology they can be a "fly on the wall" and steal any technology they want from our scientists. They also cannot die so any technology we stopped developing because it was far too dangerous for us to use they don't have a problem using themselves. Too much radiation... np... bone crushing inertia... np... no oxygen/food/water... np.

They abduct people not to do experiments on us or to warn us about impending doom... they do it because they just want to harass us because they really hate Gods favorite creation... which is us Humans.

So yes, I do believe in UFOs, Aliens/Demons and God.

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Posted: 19th Jul 2009 22:53
Wouldn't you know that someone would slip religion into this?

Quote: "If aliens were intelligent they'd keep away from us Humans."


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Posted: 19th Jul 2009 22:54
Quote: "even to my peers I have some really weird theories."

I'd have to agree with them .


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Posted: 19th Jul 2009 23:56
Oh wow, Grog.

Wow.

How did you know? I've tried to blend in but it's hard I tell you.

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Posted: 20th Jul 2009 00:11
UFOs? I see them all the time when I'm cooking with very hot vegetable oil.

wait... wrong UFO...

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Posted: 20th Jul 2009 00:23
well i dont believe in aliens or ufos. and Grog i wanted to tell u that i believe in God too!

im not religious but i believe He made us. im not trying to convert anyone ,make up your own mind but i heard that life on earth couldnt exist unless all kinds of variables were met, like i heard that jupitor actually helps sheild the earth from asteroids from out of our galaxy.thats something i never knew,also i heard that carbon dating is completely false and the dating they use is not accurate at all.im not trying to convert anyone here.but everything ive read or heard backs my own faith in my Creator Jesus!!

well back on topic,sorry for the sermon lol
when i was 14 i saw a ufo. my dad was in the airforce and we lived on an airforce base.anyway i was outside at night looking up at the sky,and i was just watching these 4 blinking lights moving very slowly like a plane. it was like going north. all of a sudden there was a long streak of light going toward the east,and it was gone! i dont know what that was but it wasnt a plane! but maybe it could have been the plane dissappeared behind a cloud and at that moment there was a meteor. idk
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Posted: 20th Jul 2009 00:40
Quote: "Oh wow, Grog.

Wow.

How did you know? I've tried to blend in but it's hard I tell you."

That is the perfect reply to a ridiculous statement. You are my new hero Grandma

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Posted: 20th Jul 2009 00:52 Edited at: 20th Jul 2009 00:52
Quote: "i heard that carbon dating is completely false and the dating they use is not accurate at all"


Go find out, then. It's high school stuff. It's imprecise (and the further back, the less precise) but fairly accurate. Usually it'll correctly tell you which century/millenia it is from with total accuracy but it cannot be more precise. As time goes on and the carbon isotopes break down further, the imprecision increases exponentially.

Don't just rely on rumours. That's idiotic.

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Posted: 20th Jul 2009 01:17 Edited at: 20th Jul 2009 01:18
Quote: "i heard that jupitor actually helps sheild the earth from asteroids from out of our galaxy."

I'm afraid it's a little more local than from outside our galaxy. It's true though, Jupiter with its immense gravity catches a lot of asteroids/meteors that most likely would have hit Earth sooner or later if Jupiter wasn't there. I don't think jupiter was created solely for our comfort though, and I don't see the correlation to christianity in your post, just to a creator. I didn't mean that with any offense so don't take it as such. Threading lightly here.


Quote: "That is the perfect reply to a ridiculous statement. You are my new hero Grandma"

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Oh don't worry, you, sepukku, and Tim Minchin were all about equal on my herometer. You're at the top now. That could change at any time though, so watch were you tread

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Posted: 20th Jul 2009 01:29
Carbon Dating isn't the only method of dating things. Read up on radiometric dating.

Though do you really want to go down the religious debate route? It's a really easy way to offend somebody and and it looks like it's just about to do that already.

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Quote: "Though do you really want to go down the religious debate route?"

This is a UFO/alien thread, it rarely goes any other route.

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I do not believe in UFOs, but I believe there exist life on other worlds. However, I seriously doubt anyone has visited us.

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Posted: 20th Jul 2009 02:39 Edited at: 20th Jul 2009 02:40
I'm not a believer. However, UFO <> Little green men.

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Posted: 20th Jul 2009 02:42
Wow, this bumped into the AUP rather quickly

As stated above, there are many, many planets and solar systems. If you roll a hundred dice over and over again, sooner or later you will roll 100 sixes. Although it is very unlikely that a given planet will be able to sustain life, the likelihood that several planets *somewhere* will have life is, I would assume, quite high.

This also feeds into David iz Cool's post: the fact that we exist isn't really remarkable, given how many planets there are. Yes, it's very unlikely that it turned out to be *this* planet, but it's no more unlikely than any other randomly chosen planet. And if humans had appeared on other planets but not this one, then we'd be wondering at how unlikely it was that we existed on *that* planet.

Of course, the fact that there are so many planets also means that, although it's quite likely aliens exist, it's also quite likely that we'll never meet up with them because they'd live so far away, and alien races might well be extinct or barely past the amoeba stage if we actually do find them. So, yes, I believe aliens exist somewhere in the universe, but that it's unlikely they'll make an impact on us. Still, it would be fantastic if they did.

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Posted: 20th Jul 2009 03:18 Edited at: 20th Jul 2009 03:22
sorry i didnt mean to push this topic toward religion.

funny how none of u commented on my sighting of a ufo when i was a kid. hehe

i keep thinking that there might be some kind of life out there but i really dont know. i mean if there are plants,shouldnt there be some life eating it?

i do believe that it takes alot of different things for life to exist on a planet.i also think nasa is wasting there time looking at saturns moon. i highly doubt anythings there. imo

i found the link to the website i was talking about.

http://www.ken-welch.com/Reports/Aliens.html
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Posted: 20th Jul 2009 03:50 Edited at: 20th Jul 2009 03:52
@ Gil Galvanti and Grandma

Hahaha you guys are funny.


@ David iz cool

I'm glad you believe in God but Carbon Dating is pretty accurate. Most of the time if somebody is against Carbon Dating it's because they believe the Earth is only 5,000 years old. Several people in my church believe that but I'm not one of them. One of the things that stumps many Christians is the fact that we have dinosaur bones and neanderthal bones. They existed before Adam and Eve were created and may have been wiped out when the "Aliens" fell to Earth.

Edit: I also believe there is life on other planets... we can't be alone in that vast universe out there.

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Quote: ".i also think nasa is wasting there time looking at saturns moon. i highly doubt anythings there"


They aren't doing it just too see if life is there...
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Posted: 20th Jul 2009 07:26 Edited at: 20th Jul 2009 07:30
Grog, I actually view "aliens" and "ufos" in the same sense you do. You're not all that crazy...

Also BTW, I've had a sighting myself!

I saw a point of light move across the sky and stop 3 times. I actually thought it was a star and it totally freaked me out when it started to move. Each time it stopped it hesitated a few seconds, then changing direction. There was no acceleration or stopping time. After it stopped the third time it hesitated as before but then went off in a smooth flowing sideways S shape behind some trees.

Strangely enough my aunt, cousin, and grandmother have all seen similar phenomenon in the sky. I just keep watching for it to happen again. I feel like I need to see it again so I know I'm not crazy.

Anyone want to try explaining away what I saw besides the ever popular excuse of experimental military aircraft? Sure, could be that, but that's an obvious possibility. Get creative.

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I don't believe in life in other planets, mainly because of two reasons. For one, it seems like they basically come to Earth just to screw with us. They'll blink their lights and race our fighter jets, stick it to us that they're so much faster, and then fly away laughing smugly. Secondly, there's the "crashes." If an alien ship can come across millions of light years to say hi, they should put some more R&D time into the landing! Surely our recession hasn't spread so far as to affect alien shipyards.

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Posted: 20th Jul 2009 12:22
Quote: "just to screw with us"


It could be their culture to race flying machines first, talk later. Picture it; an entire civilsation built on racing flying machines.

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I think UFOs exist, and aliens, because in an infinite universe, almost everything is possible. Sure, we are immensely lucky, I mean, think about the amount of meteorites that hit other planets, and we have yet to be hit. Also, our planet, by a freak phenomenon, is on a tilt, giving us a more varied and temperate climate...

You could say it's God who engineered all this, but that's up to you. However, I don't think aliens watch us, unless they're sitting up there with popcorn watching our TV and wars...

If I was ever given the opportunity to remove all the bad from the world, I wouldn't, because for there to be heroism, compassion and all that is good, there must also be all that is bad.
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Posted: 20th Jul 2009 12:45 Edited at: 20th Jul 2009 12:46
Quote: "Oh don't worry, you, sepukku, and Tim Minchin were all about equal on my herometer."


Just make sure you don't call me ginger...unless you're another ginger. I'm only part ginger, my facial hair grows ginger for some reason, so I'm sure that counts. In other words Tim Minchin is a legend, though I think your herometer must be broken.


Quote: "Quote: "Though do you really want to go down the religious debate route?"
This is a UFO/alien thread, it rarely goes any other route."


True, but it's not as if religion and aliens are directly related, I know Gods are meant to come out of the sky, but I don't think Odin flew to Midgard on a flying saucer or Zeus shoots laser beams instead of lightning bolts. Though I suppose we could ask him if he's around. Maybe an Alien space-ship crashed into Mount Olympus...hmm, conspiracy theory alert!


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It seems people have been very mature about religion and politics lately, perhaps that's why so many of us are getting away with breaking the AUP.

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Quote: "I saw a point of light move across the sky and stop 3 times. I actually thought it was a star and it totally freaked me out when it started to move. Each time it stopped it hesitated a few seconds, then changing direction. There was no acceleration or stopping time. After it stopped the third time it hesitated as before but then went off in a smooth flowing sideways S shape behind some trees."


Sometimes these things have lights.

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I saw a blue fleet in the skies yesterday.

If you want proof.

At night, look up.

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Isn't 27mHz the frequency used for RC cars not planes/helicopters which use 35mHz?

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I do. But I don't know about Aliens.

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In this massive expanding universe there has to be some sort of other living organism if the universe is infinite there has to be something else that we need to discover. They just need to send more monkeys to space they did a better job than us then when the monkeys are there they will find things (monkeys know everything)

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Posted: 20th Jul 2009 20:42 Edited at: 20th Jul 2009 20:42
We can only proove that aliens do exist. We can never proove that there are no organisms other than those on our planet.

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Posted: 20th Jul 2009 21:54
Quote: "We can only proove that aliens do exist. We can never proove that there are no organisms other than those on our planet."

All we have to do is go to EVERY single planet in the universe. That will prove aliens do not exist.
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But what if they were hiding ...?

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Or had invisibility suits?

If I was ever given the opportunity to remove all the bad from the world, I wouldn't, because for there to be heroism, compassion and all that is good, there must also be all that is bad.

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