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Geek Culture / Summer Reading PRESSURE....

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Potassium
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Posted: 22nd Jul 2009 16:11 Edited at: 22nd Jul 2009 16:30
Well well well, school was out a while ago, but the teachers are evil so they give you summer reading. Don't get me wrong here, I like to read in my spare time (when I'm not programming), but you have to do some stupid project thats due on like the 2nd/3rd week of September.

Time is short, and I have read the books (well halfway), and I have to go on vacation in August, so I'm starting to worry that I'll run out of time.

I go to school in the USA.

I'm going to high school and I'm kind of scared. Is high school really that stressful?
Veron
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Posted: 22nd Jul 2009 16:27
From what I remember of the education system over here, years 7-10 of high school count for nothing, so don't care about what marks you get. When it comes to 11 and 12, you do need to work hard, and you do get piled with work, but if you want to do well and land a good job, then its well worth the work put in.

Potassium
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Posted: 22nd Jul 2009 16:29
I live in the United States, so yeah...

We have grades 1-12, our teachers say that your academics count from grades 9-12.
And high school for me is grades 9-12.
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Posted: 22nd Jul 2009 16:35
I have to read East of Eden, Crime and Punishmen, and Don Quixote...



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Posted: 22nd Jul 2009 17:01
summer homework is such a joke. one thing that i've noticed is that classes where you actually learn stuff don't require this (at least at my school). so if you don't want summer homework, take these classes

don't be scared about high school. it's quite easy once you get the hang of it. and it shouldn't be too stressful. at times, it will be, but as long as you choose a reasonable number of classes, you'll be fine (i have a friend that consistently had 6 to 8 classes every semester and he was WAY overworked)

also, your teachers are wrong that 9th through 12th grades count academically. almost all colleges in the US don't care about your 9th grade academics. what matters the most is 11th (because you are most likely to have the most number of AP classes here), and 12th matters, but not as much. so, don't kill yourself with too much work and stress all four years

as for choosing classes, don't feel obligated to take all advanced and/or AP classes. many of my friends screwed themselves over by taking almost every one available to them just because it was "better for college". i chose my strong points like AP Chemistry, AP Physics, and AP Computer Science. and then i didn't bother taking AP english classes. and lo and behold, i got into UCLA, where many of my friends will be going. (one such friend is the one i mentioned earlier who took too many classes )

so just do what you're comfortable with and don't be scared!

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Posted: 22nd Jul 2009 17:24
I'm going to 9th grade.

I might take Computer Science in college, but for now, I've mostly taught myself. Unfortunately, it is quite hard, due to the fact, that you will rarely have any friends that program, and I was afraid that Computer Science in high school would be too easy and a waste of time.

I don't have any AP classes in 9th grade, I'm just taking honors, but really though, I learned not to set way too high achievements. Overachievers, when they get an A, they start to panic, and say "AHHHHH meh parents are going to kill me!".
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Posted: 22nd Jul 2009 17:41
I'm going to 10th grade and was (still am) taking scholars classes. I did pretty well - except for a 'D' on my second Bio finals - but my brother, who is going into his sophomore year in college (weird, eh?) says that colleges only look at your GPA; in my case, it was a 3.667 out of a 4.0 but with scholars classes, the weighted GPA (not the actual) was 4.08 out of 4.5. I did a damn good job and high school really isn't that stressful. Of course, I am going to the US's 39th ranked high school or something so......I guess I deserve bragging rights.

I didn't and hopefully won't get summer homework for the next two/three years until I graduate. And from what I've heard, in 12th grade you can do whatever you want because you turn 18 that year. I highly doubt it though.

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Posted: 22nd Jul 2009 19:23
Quote: "I was afraid that Computer Science in high school would be too easy and a waste of time."


On the contrary, it is a cheap 'A' and it impresses the ladies.

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Posted: 22nd Jul 2009 19:40
Yeah but is it worth spending a semester learning about BASIC, when you're using C++, and already know the terminology?

But I'm taking CS in college, but high school, I have yet to consider.
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Posted: 22nd Jul 2009 21:41
Quote: "I'm going to high school and I'm kind of scared. Is high school really that stressful? "


Ahhh, a freshman I see.

Don't stress it. DO what I did freshman year and do not act out, do not act obnoxious, and you will be fine. Most of the time, people mess with freshmen if they are making a complete fool of yourself.

Potassium
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Posted: 22nd Jul 2009 23:11
Well thanks for the advice, I guess I feel better now.
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Posted: 22nd Jul 2009 23:24 Edited at: 22nd Jul 2009 23:25
Quote: "On the contrary, it is a cheap 'A' and it impresses the ladies."


Interestingly that's a parallel that also applies over here in the UK - the A level computing exams are incredibly simple, to the point of being exceptionally boring. I'm fairly certain the female-related aspect of it is an urban myth though - in both places

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Posted: 22nd Jul 2009 23:45
Here in America, having an 'A' in any class is impressive to most people.. Or is that just my school?

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Posted: 23rd Jul 2009 00:12 Edited at: 23rd Jul 2009 00:12
Well, at my school, different classes have different difficulties - say, getting an A in World History is pretty much expected...getting an A in Computer Repair is mostly guarenteed, but in Physics and Bio an A is quite impressive.



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Posted: 23rd Jul 2009 00:20
Quote: "Yeah but is it worth spending a semester learning about BASIC, when you're using C++, and already know the terminology?"

There are ways to make a class where you already know most of it much less boring. For instance, you could help teach the other students who are having trouble (if you enjoy that sort of thing). Or if you talk to the teacher, show them what you can do, and ask if you can work on a special project in class on top of the assignments they give you, they might be okay with it. Heck, you might even be allowed to work on a DBPro project for 45 minutes each school day. That's golden!

I remember in AP Computer Science I was teaching my teacher things about graphics in Pascal after class. It was nice being smarter than everyone else in the room. But it only lasted for that year, and it only happened in that room.

I'm not a real programmer but I play one with DBPro!
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Posted: 23rd Jul 2009 17:38
Quote: "but my brother, who is going into his sophomore year in college (weird, eh?) says that colleges only look at your GPA;"


this is not true. in fact, colleges weigh in your extracurriculars a lot (too much imo). they also look at SAT/ACT and AP scores. even if you get a B in an AP class, and a 3 on the test, that looks much better than getting an A in the equivalent normal-level class.

Quote: "There are ways to make a class where you already know most of it much less boring. For instance, you could help teach the other students who are having trouble (if you enjoy that sort of thing). Or if you talk to the teacher, show them what you can do, and ask if you can work on a special project in class on top of the assignments they give you, they might be okay with it. Heck, you might even be allowed to work on a DBPro project for 45 minutes each school day. That's golden!"


ya, if you have a nice comp sci teacher, this is very possible. during both years of comp sci for me, it was clear that i understood almost all of the material. so i helped out a lot and my teacher would never bug me when i was working on my personal projects.

also, don't always take a class purely based on academics. sure, in comp sci i didn't learn a whole lot that was new. but, i had a great time because i had a lot of friends in my class. it was actually one of my favorite classes because it was also laid back/less stressful than my other classes. and don't forget the easy A and 5 on the AP test

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Posted: 23rd Jul 2009 21:43
Spark notes ftw.

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Posted: 23rd Jul 2009 22:11
What I don't get is why you're doing it. In California (where I live) Grades k-8 are at a different school than 9-12. When you leave Jr. High and go to High School you get an entirely different set of teachers. Teachers that don't know about or even care about other teachers assignments at other schools.

Potassium
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Posted: 23rd Jul 2009 23:20
I'm in Massachusetts.

But I guess I feel better so I think I am able to sleep.
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Posted: 25th Jul 2009 14:38
All this pressure... it just turns people away from reading. Deep down, people forced to read books they don't like begin to associate reading with boredom and misery.

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