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Code eater
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Posted: 15th Aug 2009 22:58
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Hey,,,

I know there has been an Ipod Touch programming thread, but not normal ipod(as far as I know - Sorry if there is).

Does anyone know if it is possible(preferably easy) to program for the iPod. I know it has to be possible for companys e.g saga but is it possible for a regular joe like me to? Im not worried about what language it is in really, I am competant with both C# and Basic and Im pretty certain I could learn it.

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Posted: 15th Aug 2009 23:07
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There's the iPod touch and iPhone: you need a Mac with the SDK on it (99 a year isn't it?), and you need to sign contracts and stuff. Once you get past all of that, you can program the iPod/phone in Objective-C (look it up)


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David R
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Posted: 15th Aug 2009 23:19
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The SDK is completely free. You only need to pay to submit an app to the store

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Posted: 15th Aug 2009 23:39
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Okay thanks... But I was more looking at programming for ipod classic. Is that possible?

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I believe you only pay to submit apps if you're selling them. No charge for free apps.

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Posted: 16th Aug 2009 00:30 Edited at: 16th Aug 2009 00:33
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Quote: "But I was more looking at programming for ipod classic. Is that possible?
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Officially, no. Apple never released a public SDK to the classic-era iPods (they only released one to a select few developers, such as PopCap).

Absolutely no idea whether they can be unofficially made, but my bet is yes: I have an application on my 80GB iPod Classic called "Book2Pod" which lets me read big chunks of text. It's text based and simply uses underlined links, so I assume it's probably just exploiting some simple flaw in the notes functionality (I know the same can be done for images too) but I can't say for certain. You'll need to investigate

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Posted: 16th Aug 2009 00:59
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Quote: "But I was more looking at programming for ipod classic. Is that possible?"


It depends: do you mean the officially labeled "iPod Classic," or the 5th generation iPods?

There's something called "iPod Linux" for 5th generation iPods and earlier. I've used it on mine before. The site disappeared for awhile, so I don't know if it's still around, but check it out with Google.

With iPod Linux, you can compile programs (it comes with the toolchain).

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Posted: 16th Aug 2009 13:18
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hey,, thanks all...

Quote: "do you mean the officially labeled "iPod Classic," or the 5th generation iPods?"


I mean the ipod classic 80gb 6th generation.

Quote: "There's something called "iPod Linux""


I've had a look at that, just a couple of days ago and tried to put it on my old ipod mini... didnt work. Im not sure why but I thought I would wait before the official ipodlinux site came up again (if it does).

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Posted: 16th Aug 2009 15:18
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It's pretty easy to do it incorrectly. I know it took me multiple tries (PROTIP: Linux *is* a necessity .

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Posted: 16th Aug 2009 20:07
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@ Mahoney... Where did you download the installer from? and what did you change to make it work after it failed?

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I downloaded it when the site was up. It's gone now, but sourceforge has some files left.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/ipodlinux/files/

However, that's entirely useless without the install guide. Unfortunately, I have no clue where to find it.

Try Google, though. I honestly don't have the time to find it myself, as this is the last day of summer for me, and I'm going to enjoy it.

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Quote: "as this is the last day of summer for me, and I'm going to enjoy it."

Eww that sucks lol. I got 3 weeks left ... sorry for going off topic

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Posted: 16th Aug 2009 22:27 Edited at: 16th Aug 2009 22:28
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Quote: "Eww that sucks lol. I got 3 weeks left"


Do you live in Europe, then? Or are you college?

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Posted: 17th Aug 2009 00:59
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Try Rockbox instead.

By way of demonstration, he emitted a batlike squeak that was indeed bothersome.
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Well, I've got three weeks of summer left and I don't attend college or live in Europe.

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Quote: "Well, I've got three weeks of summer left and I don't attend college or live in Europe."


I didn't think any schools in the US were that far apart for summer dates.

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Posted: 17th Aug 2009 21:38 Edited at: 17th Aug 2009 21:43
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I got 2 and a bit weeks and i live in england... going into my 4th year of secondry/high school.... :p got 2 GCSEs next year

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Hey,,, I have tried rockbox, but it didnt seem to work for me... dunno y :p

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Posted: 17th Aug 2009 21:39 Edited at: 17th Aug 2009 21:40
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Quote: "Do you live in Europe, then? Or are you college?"

I live in the US, and school always starts the day after Labor Day (Which is the 7th of September this year I think).

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Ok,,, Ive managed to get onto a cache version of the ipodlinux site, the only problem is when i run the installer I downloaded from there, it tries to "Connect to ipodlinux.org", which of course it cant . Any suggestions?

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Posted: 19th Aug 2009 00:23
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Without the site up, you can't use the auto-installer (which rarely works, anyway; never did for me). Like I said: you'll have to find a copy of the instructions for manual-installation. I know, it sucks. :/

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Posted: 19th Aug 2009 14:52
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I've searched to find out why it is down and it looks like it has gone down a lot of times in the past. I'm not sure why though. Hopefully it will come back up soon

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