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Geek Culture / Windows 7E

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Daniel TGC
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Posted: 17th Aug 2009 04:18 Edited at: 17th Aug 2009 04:25
Yep that's right. Us lucky people in Europe won't be getting windows 7. We're getting Windows 7E!

It will arrive in several different flavours, Home Basic, Home Premium, Starter, Professional, Enterprise and Ultimate.

I suspect like me, Home Premium or Basic will do the job for most people. I've got no idea what Starter is, but professional, offers features like file encryption and an XP emulation mode. I assume Enterprise and Ultimate will have the same features. Professional and upwards will also offer backup tools. But there's more than enough backup apps floating around. So I doubt the average user will care.

So, what's the difference between Windows 7, and Windows 7E?

First of all, don't fall for the word "upgrade" it will be used a lot. This isn't what we are used too. It isn't going to be the typical upgrade system we all know and love. Even with the upgrade version, you still need to wipe your hard drive and start over from scratch. Losing all your program's, settings, photos, documents and everything else. SO IF YOU GET THIS, BACK UP YOUR STUFF FIRST or you'll be in for a world of hurt.

The next huge difference is NO INTERNET EXPLORER. That's right, Internet Explorer will NOT be included with Windows 7E, the good news is that if you are buying a new laptop with Windows 7E installed, Microsoft believe most vendors will pre-install IE or another web browser for you. But if you're looking to install Windows 7E yourself, download a web browser and shove it one a USB flash drive or something. Because if you hope to you know. access the internet, you're going to be in trouble if you don't.

This is because Microsoft apparently has a horrible monopoly over the web browser market, which is true enough. So regulators have forced Microsoft to drop the browser. But I have to wonder about this move. After all, the internet is an essential part of our daily lives. We’re past the point where anyone can reasonably run a computer without a web browser.

There will also be a Windows 7N that apparently doesn't come with Internet explorer or Windows Media player. But Windows 7E does come with windows media player. So that shouldn't affect us in Europe.

So are there any pluses for us Europeans?

Yes, it is a small one, unlike the rest of the world, everybody in Europe will get to install 7E on more than one machine. Providing you not running on more than one machine at a time. So if you own more than one machine, and like to hop between them, you won't have to purchase multiple licenses.

Some more good news is that anyone buying a new machine with Vista installed after 22th October, will be allowed to get a copy of Windows 7E free of charge. Be warned though. This offer will be run through your PC vendor. You won't be able to phone Microsoft up for a free disc. There's already talk that some vendors are intending to charge you for this. It may be postage and packaging, or they may charge more. There's nothing stopping them from doing it. So if you are looking to buy a Vista Machine after the 22nd October, intending to benefit from a free upgrade. You might want to ask the vendor what their plans are for that.

Prices

£50 -- if you pre-order 7 E Home Premium between 15 July and 14 August (while stocks last).

£100 -- if you pre-order 7 E Professional between 15 July and 14 August (while stocks last).

£80 -- for 7 E Home Premium edition from 14 August until at least 2010.

£190 -- for 7 E Professional edition from 14 August until at least 2010.

£150 -- for 7 E Home Premium edition from 1 January 2010 onwards.

£220 -- for 7 E Professional edition from 1 January 2010 onwards.

So things to bare in mind:

If you have applications installed, have lost the disc, or can't download it for whatever reason. then you will lose these applications.

Windows 7E is based on Vista technology. Much of the drivers will be the same, but not all of them. So it's worth checking with your hardware manufactures first. Just to make sure.

They claim faster shutdown and start up times. But Vista, XP and just about every OS before has claimed the same thing. So I wouldn't pay that too much attention if I where you.

No web browser, so keep one handy if you hope to play on the net.

Many things about windows 7 that they are advertising as new features are not. For instance I saw an advert telling you that with the windows start menu search bar you can find anything you want quickly. This is true, but it's not a windows 7 exclusive feature. Windows Vista introduced that.

All in all. Windows 7E seems in keeping with Microsoft's typical style. Invent a new technology OS, which was vista. Then tart it up, and release it as a new OS. Windows 2000 was ugly, windows XP looked more attractive. But in reality it was only Windows 5.1 while windows 2000 was Windows NT 5. Whilst hey are calling this one Windows 7 or 7E, 7N, I'm not totally convinced there's enough in it to justify a whole 1.0 upgrade. They did the same with Windows 98 and Windows ME. Windows 95 OEM 2 featured 32-bit hard drive support. 98 was basically 95 with extra programs and themes shoved on top of it. ME was the same again. 98, with even more bloat. So don't expect Windows 7 to be an up from the ground rebuild.

I dare say I'll need to get a copy to help troubleshoot peoples problems with the new OS. But if I wasn't doing this job. To be honest I'd stick with Vista. Which runs very well for me. And wait for Windows 8, or whatever they plan to call it.

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Posted: 17th Aug 2009 04:26
Are you sure? http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/08/01/microsoft-scraps-windows-7-e-version-for-europe

I haven't read much into it as to how they're going to get Windows to Europe, but it looks like there is no 7E.

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Posted: 17th Aug 2009 06:08 Edited at: 17th Aug 2009 06:10
http://www.amazon.co.uk/b/?ie=UTF8&node=248293031&tag=goukco-21&hvadid=2939105096&ref=pd_sl_7f3imtr7yi_b

If you look at the video there it's got Windows 7E listed in the title. I've seen it dotted around a few places.

It's possible not everyone has caught up with the new situation, and that the title video was already rendered and they didn't bother updating it. I've seen it listed a few other places as well.

So it's possible there's just alot of confusion out there. But that ditch article was written a good couple of weeks ago. So, who know's whats going on? I mean this was basically forced on microsft in the first place. It's possible microsoft simply announced that it would dump 7E, then got forced into the original plan.

Either way, the sitation has changed once, I dare say it can chnage again. After all, the original 7E anouncement was an offical one. So if you see "Windows 7" and "Windows 7E" you'll know what th deal is.

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Posted: 17th Aug 2009 08:19 Edited at: 17th Aug 2009 08:20
I think Windows 7E = Windows 7 Essentials, like XP Counterpart its lightweight Windows with almost nothing installed. Perfect for all those gadgets you may see on streets that needs Windows applications.

PS. I skipped the text almost whole so...

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Posted: 17th Aug 2009 08:25
Ah yeah it looks pretty recent so not everyone has updated, but if you click on one of the 7E products it redirects me to the plain 7 version, although maybe that's because I'm in the United States.

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Posted: 17th Aug 2009 12:56
Windows 7 "E" doesn't mean essentials. It means Europe


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Posted: 17th Aug 2009 14:51
7E was already dropped. End of story.

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Posted: 17th Aug 2009 15:13
How come I have pre-ordered it then? (From amazon for £50)


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Posted: 17th Aug 2009 15:24 Edited at: 17th Aug 2009 15:33
You'll just get the equivalent standard version for whatever edition you ordered (notice that the actual item isn't called "E". It just has a bunch of 'E" branded videos on the same page which haven't been removed)

Quote: "
In the wake of last week's developments, as well as continuing feedback on Windows 7 E that we have received from computer manufacturers and other business partners, I'm pleased to report that we will ship the same version of Windows 7 in Europe in October that we will ship in the rest of the world.

One reason we decided not to ship Windows 7 'E' is concerns raised by computer manufacturers and partners. Several worried about the complexity of changing the version of Windows that we ship in Europe if our ballot screen proposal is ultimately accepted by the Commission and we stop selling Windows 7 'E'. Computer manufacturers and our partners also warned that introducing Windows 7 'E', only to later replace it with a version of Windows 7 that includes IE, could confuse consumers about what version of Windows to buy with their PCs."


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Posted: 17th Aug 2009 17:49
Looks like will have to go down to our local pc shop and ask to see a Windows 7 E system running or whats ever on it, and can we try it out, then find outs what not under the hood.

form the above it sound like your buying a diary but they left out the date and months but your in luck they've left the days in it.

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