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piXX3D
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Posted: 3rd Oct 2009 00:24
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Post away your opinions on the Derren Brown show tonight - after all, it was quite something!

This will probably be best suited to folks in the UK where it was broadcast. Air your opinions, (preferably) on topic...
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I'll actually begin by saying that I think his failure tonight gave him more credibility. It withdrew some of my scepticism about the rest of his tricks.

Although I am still debating whether or not the entire show was a complete fake, to have some sort of huge follow up.

And does anyone else think, it must have been a load of made up crap this whole 'shoe-tapping' thing? How can anyone calculate mathematic equations that fast without having already been locked up by the CIA for testing?!
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Trowbee
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I don't know if anyone else noticed. But as the camera panned out at the end, there was someone holding a £180,000 novelty cheque on the left...
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Posted: 3rd Oct 2009 01:03
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I was like "WTF??!1" at the end of tonights show. He was close, but not close enough


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Posted: 9th Oct 2009 18:16
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It was a load of rubbish. Foot tapping? Good grief. Ok, slightly more believable than "Power of the crowd" (when it comes to future events), but even so... Again though, complete genius to get people talking about basically an hour of drivel (who believed the squash court trick actually worked as he said and the bird who threw the ball was a member of the public?). The guy is a master of that sort of thing. I mean magic is one thing, completely making something up and totally scripting the whole thing is another.

And the bit at the end was total genius. Make it look like a total cock up. Heh, brilliant. Honestly, did anyone really think he really had a system and had really cocked up at the end? Heheheh. Probably a lot of people did. That is the whole point of what he does. Don't forget quite a lot of the time he says things like "I am a trickster". Really brilliant.

On the other hand The Sun did a survey of 1000 people and apparently 95% of people did not stand up during the live mind control show he did (it doesn't work on the recorded version for obvious reasons). I totally believe in that stuff...

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Posted: 9th Oct 2009 20:41
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another disappointment. He should stick to what he's good at - and acting on this scale isn't what he's good at.

It was obvious he would fail before he did - how could he justify conning a casino out of £180,000? The casino looked fake, the guy on the balcony had too good a shot, and the back story was terrible.

Derren Brown - get back to your good stuff, and stop mocking your audience.

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Posted: 9th Oct 2009 20:48
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His web based 'Science of Scams' is pretty good at the moment: No frills or cheap tricks, the episodes are only about 5 minutes but they're some cheap fun.

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I found this quote a derren brown blog
Quote: "I BRIEFLY MEET DERREN ABOUT A YEAR AGO, AN HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A MASSIVE FAN. THIS LAST SERIES?THE EVENTS? AS USUAL HAS BEEN AMASING. THE MAN IS A TRUE MODERN DAY MENTALIST, AN WITH HIS SHOWMANSHIP, HE TRULY MISTYFIES. I GENUINELY LOOK FORWARD TO HIS NEXT STUNTS OR WHATEVER IT IS HE DOES?.."

Just about sums up the intelligence of his audience. Mentalist hahaha!

I used to really like Derren and always found his psychological stuff facinating, but he seems to have drifted away from that to these "events" which are a bit corny and never live up to their billing.

I think he wants to become a worldwide phenomenon (???!) so he's trying to do the big American style show, but it doesn't really work over here.

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Posted: 10th Oct 2009 12:01
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Quote: "Mentalist"


Sounds funny, but it actually what he is, that's the official term.

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Posted: 10th Oct 2009 18:20
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It'd be nice if he did some more 'the gathering' style shows.

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Pincho Paxton
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10,000 people would recognise that casino by the seats alone, so it was a fake casino. Plus it was suggested by Paul Daniels that Darren Brown should have a close miss for realism.

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I got glued by that chair thing. It's hard to explain what it's like! It's like you don't WANT to move rather than you can't. But if you go in with the attitude "Im going to stand up Im going to stand up" it doesn't work. If you kind of want it to work a bit, it does.

You also need to be paying total attention to it to work and follow the instructions. Cool sensation!

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Unfortunately, you also need to be easily brainwashed, so keep well clear of tampon adverts.

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Posted: 12th Oct 2009 01:59 Edited at: 12th Oct 2009 02:00
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Quote: "Unfortunately, you also need to be easily brainwashed, so keep well clear of tampon adverts"


Read a bit of a book on advertising recently (and interestingly someone's blog I read also blogged on it)... it's actually quite scary how easily you can be subconsciously 'pushed' into doing something. In terms of advertising, it was showing how advertisers deliberately plug different concepts together (e.g. hot women and sports cars) so that a link is formed (subconsciously) between them: a process which can happen in a part of your brain before your own level of conscious thinking.

It is genuinely disturbing how malleable your mind is from outside sources - and that goes for everyone. I don't think anyone is "easily" brainwashed/hypnotised/affected - we're all pretty "easy" so to speak, the success of it just depends on other circumstances

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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 12th Oct 2009 02:01
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The human brain is as soft and malleable in software as it is in hardware.

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Pincho Paxton
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Well doesn't work on me. I don't want a sports car, I don't have a mobile phone, I don't believe in the Big Bang, Jesus, or Ghosts. I don't like Coca Cola, don't believe that the dinosaurs were wiped out by a meteor, only half believe in evolution, don't have a skinhead cut, don't play loud music, don't get stuck in chairs, and have solved the theory of everything.

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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 12th Oct 2009 02:19
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That's just what they want you to believe!

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Quote: "Well doesn't work on me. I don't want a sports car, I don't have a mobile phone, I don't believe in the Big Bang, Jesus, or Ghosts. I don't like Coca Cola, don't believe that the dinosaurs were wiped out by a meteor, only half believe in evolution, don't have a skinhead cut, don't play loud music, don't get stuck in chairs, and have solved the theory of everything.
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Unless some TGC products and the URL for this forum just fell out of the sky, you've clearly failed if you're posting here

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Pincho Paxton
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Unless some TGC products and the URL for this forum just fell out of the sky, you've clearly failed if you're posting here "


I wanted you to post that!

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Benjamin
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Hehe, Pincho is the master of mind control. Move aside Dork Brown.
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Quote: "I don't want a sports car, I don't have a mobile phone, I don't believe in the Big Bang, Jesus, or Ghosts. I don't like Coca Cola, don't believe that the dinosaurs were wiped out by a meteor, only half believe in evolution, don't have a skinhead cut, don't play loud music, don't get stuck in chairs, and have solved the theory of everything."


What an odd set of things to bunch together... I mean, owning a mobile phone is not being brainwashed, it is just embracing a phenomenal piece of technology. You own a computer, of course, and presumably a landline - how is it different?

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Pincho Paxton
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There are a lot of issues with mobile phones. But me telling you about them is the opposite to you being free spirited.

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... And once again, I can't tell whether you are being sarcastic or facetious.

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Pincho Paxton
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Quote: "... And once again, I can't tell whether you are being sarcastic or facetious."


You need coding practice.

` Programmed by ************* Insert Name Here ************

Dim Alphabet (A,Z)
Pincho = Z

If Pincho = A or Pincho = B
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In other words. In a forum there are many kinds of posts. To choose sarcastic or facetious as the only two possible combinations of my previous post you have already labelled me incorrectly.

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Ah, but in my opinion, either you are joking or you are incredibly unbrearable and deserve to be roasted alive in your own arrogance.

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Pincho Paxton
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I guess that your wrong guesses cause my reaction to be unbearable then. Obviously this is cause, and effect taking place. You pick 2 insults on me each time, and I react to them.

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So suddenly it's arrogant to claim you have solved the Theory of Everything?!

What a world...



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