Its not, its our chance really for us to question the Mods and get there justification, We now have a new development.
Quick point to Ron
Find me any posts where you have not been derogatory or mean to Havok
everything you say involves him being harsh, or wrong, or too curious.
Building on that.
He knows that on the forums any disgussion with you is invalid because you dont listen, this has been established; So to level the playing field he uses email.
right good so far.
He is positive in the emails, giving a warning of what you were threating to do YOURSELF (ban him for asking questions again regarding DarkData)
And giving you tips to improve (all you have done is put him down, or have some sarcky little dig at him, knowing he cant retaliate)
What do you do?
On the DarkData forum he added something like
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Ron Check your e-mail, but please dont bring it here
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You then:
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I posted some of his past behaviors and the e-mail correspondence that we had on the moderator forum.
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there are two problems with that
1) you posted "his" emails on a forum - even though he asked not to, and did it external to the forum (thus biasing any decisions a third party mod would make)
2) you cant show they are actually from him
Now you can say "yeah I can use screenshots" all you like, but thats not how a mail relay works, its a relay, you could have faked it for all the others know, they only have your word to take, like the reverse of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" you clearly dont like Havok, you are always mean to him - hence my bullying comment.
So you cant proove those mails are from him.
You then claim that you "newbie slapped" him, so he's already been punished, and 1 month later (or whatever) it is decided that he must be punished again.
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to FORGET about his previous posts, but it is my responsibility as a mod to REMEMBER the type of user that he is, until he PROVES otherwise
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He's a troll right?
Now a troll by accepted definition wants to cause arguments, arguments on issues which dont have a sollution, or to put down someones work or whatever. to be mean.
Can you demonstrate a mean post by Havok, that is actually mean.
So far his MySQL ones - was more of a debate, neather side had any harm, and forward definite and "black and white" (no mid ground) questions were asked.
Same with other forums. He's also tried to help.
His first post here, was typo covered, but it WAS A STEP BY STEP GUIDE ON HOW TO GET MYSQL TO WORK WITH DARKBASIC
He's also written an explode function mirror from PHP to split strings.
He's also written an incomplete SQL system in darkbasic, other users (like myself) can / did learn alot about parsing strings from this, as well as SQL (ish) and we got a get and put data alternative to DarkData - for free.
So; from my perspective, as someone third party; all you have done is be derogatory, as i stated and quoted in my last post; you also said "email me about it" when you cleaned it up last time.
He did, nothing came of it, according to him you basically said "well that tough" you just did it for brownie points - knowing nothing would ever posibly come of it.
So you say that you will leave Havok alone, another mod punishes him for old comments that he was alread "newbie slapped" for;
Now if the emails were accounted for and he wasnt punished twice for the same thing; i put the following to you:
by Thraxax (or something)
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@alec the lion
I was the one who banned Havok, and it was for trolling. The banning had nothing to do with the email exchange between him and Ron.
If he still has questions abuot the product then being banned from the forums doesn't stop him obtaining the answers he seeks. He can send any queries directly to TGC.
If he has a problem with my banning of him, Mike Johnson has said to send all queries to him, so if Havok wants to he can do that.
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Now if Havok does send posts to Mike, What will come of it, why cant Mike just read this thread; Please answer these questions and remember (Ron dont throw your ""this is not a threat". It is like someone telling you: Give me all of your money. If you don't, I may or may not kill you. But I'm not threatening you" comment)
I am not attacking moderators, just this is really unfair, If you would rather I choose a different case, i draw you to Nightmare's second example, read that forum;
Thanks for your time.
Lastly / Ps Dont lock this forum under flaming, I am trying to hold a sensible disgussion into your methods, I am not attacking Ron, Or any other mod.
Also, please, Dont lock it and hide behind "We dont have to justify ourselves" Socially that will make me into a marter for my argument (statement, but it is formally called an argument) and I just want to establish; that this community is better then it so far seems since my return.
Thanks
