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Leadwerks
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Posted: 30th Oct 2009 10:47 Edited at: 30th Oct 2009 10:47
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My review. I wanted to love it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmgJS6vlOCk

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How much you selling for?

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I love Windows 7 so much more than Vista!



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I have a laptop with vista installed. My friend just bought a laptop with 7 installed. Other than slight visual differences, they seem identical. Everything was basically the same. My system is older than his, but it seemed to me that it was just as fast.

The "start bar" in 7 has bigger icons than my quick launch bar. But it seems they do the same thing. One-click launches, for your favorite/most used programs. The "start" button, the sub menus were identical almost to the point I couldn't tell the difference between the two.

I don't see a compelling reason to upgrade.
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Yes, the new Superbar offers nothing over a double-width taskbar with the Quick Launch along the top and the window manager along the bottom. It's worse in many respects. The taskbar doesn't group unless it needs to, the Superbar groups without question. If I want a Dock, I'll use OS X.

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Posted: 30th Oct 2009 18:46 Edited at: 30th Oct 2009 19:01
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Quote: "the Superbar groups without question."


There's an option for that, actually. You can make it behave like Vista's.

This is the first negative response I've seen to the new taskbar. Of course, everyone thinks it's awkward the first day or two of using it. But within a week, it becomes their favorite part about it.

Leadwerks, to be honest, it sounds like you simply are judging it too quickly. I only had time to watch 2/3 of your video earlier, so maybe you mentioned non-UI issues in the last 1/3, but basically everything you brought up was something I didn't like at the start either. However, after using it solely for a week, I was in love. The same with a friend of mine.


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I just watched the last 1/3 of the video.

1) You can drag the Cam Studio icon by the clock down from the pop-out menu, making it permanently beside the clock. It's as simple as that. It prevents clutter of little icons by keeping them in the pop-out by default.

2) Libraries. You obviously spent no time whatsoever figuring out what they are. You can mark any folder of file as "in" a certain library. When you do so, it is added to the page for that library (like "Documents," "Pictures"). It's as simple as that. You don't have to know "where this is" on your computer. It's an organization system.

3) Use your computer for more than a day before being so judgmental on the OS.

I'm sorry if this seems rude, but Leadwerks, you've designed a 3D engine and an editor for it: you're a smart and talented individual. I'm surprised that you would be so harsh on something as simple as the Libraries feature without even figuring out what it is.

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Quote: "Windows 7: Worse than Vista"


Wat.

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Posted: 30th Oct 2009 19:14 Edited at: 30th Oct 2009 19:14
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Windows 7 is not worse than Vista.

When Vista was out, I tried it out on a few laptops some family members had (my aunt, uncle, cousin and grandmother), and absolutely hated it. Even though their laptops had something like a 2.5GHz dual-core processor, 3GBs of RAM and a decent GPU chip, Vista still was horrendously slow and froze often. There were multiple other issues and things I didn't like (like everything being reorganized; I liked where the Control Panel was originally!), and I'm sure other people would agree.

7, on the other hand, is brilliant. I've only been able to mess around with a laptop at Wal Mart that had Home Premium installed onto it, but I loved it. It was much more responsive than Vista was, more graphically pleasing (at least to me), and features like "Snap" and "Jump Lists" were just awesome. I love every aspect of Windows 7. The laptop's specs were less than the specs of the laptops that Vista was running on, and it was still faster.

Microsoft finally fixed themselves, I believe.

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Posted: 30th Oct 2009 20:01
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Hello Kitty,

You've been using it for a day, and you already consider it being crappier than Windows Vista? Are you insane? You as a developer yourself should know that 1 day is NOT enough to test out a OS completely. I've been using Ubuntu 9.04 "Jaunty Jackolope" for a month, and I know for sure that I have not explored it 100%. Ha-Ha, I doubt I've even explored Ubuntu 10% even.

Let's start to show WHY you didn't explore the OS properly,

1) in PART-2 you whined about how you had all this rubbish that you wouldn't need like the games folder, well, good news mate, you can toggle, and in fact, add stuff onto that. How? Click on your taskbar and go to properties, go to start menu, then click on customize.

2) in PART-2, you also whined about that picture, are you blind? Them pictures were integrated into XP long time ago, and they're just there for when you've got multiple users, so that the less computer literate ones can identify their user account easily by a picture that can be remembered easily.

3)in PART-3, you complained about the themes, well, that's the thing, most of the power users of Windows often use with Windows 98 theme, however some think that it may be nice to have a custom theme like that of the Gaia series. Different themes/colors have been around for god knows how long..

4) in PART-3, you complained how you background didn't change, well maybe YOU cocked something up! I've been using Windows 7 for ages, I've cocked it all up to a high degree that I've even modified explore.exe(Just to change the taskbar icon. ^_^), and I've never came across this background problem that you have, in fact, wait, stop? I recall this being a problem in WINDOWS-XP, it's called a cache, you have to log-off then re-log on, that'll clear your cache, not only the OS' cache, but your web cache too. In fact, I'll even show you a video of me changing my background in Windows 7 perfectly, if you ask.


You're trying to believe that Windows 7 is more terrible than Vista. You're obsessed with degrading new equipment than that of what was old and is still terrible. I really don't believe you're in such a state to call the shots on whether the OS is bad or not. Just because you ran into a few problems doesn't mean that there's another way around them.

Also my guess is that you used Ubuntu--- that, or ArchLinux.

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@Matuka I think your being a bit unfair in your post. Leadwerks has valid points and I agree with what he says.

I think windows 7 isn't crappy, but neither is vista + service packs. To me 7 vs Vista, the differences are minimal.

XP is still the best though I believe they will not support it after 2011. And thats the real shame.
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Posted: 30th Oct 2009 20:24 Edited at: 30th Oct 2009 20:24
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To all the "give it more time" people: 1 day is a perfect amount of time to get to know an OS. If it annoys the crap out of you for one day of usage, why in the world is it going to magically get better? Short answer: It won't

The first fifteen minutes of using something makes the biggest impression - it may not be the be-all and end-all of the product but it will likely influence the remainder of its use or suggest how good/bad it is.

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I am using Win 7 as my main now instead of Vista. Yeh, the taskbar is weird but I am getting used to it, I have made it the size of the "Normal" taskbar (half-height) and it works fine. I really don't understand why people are still on XP, the OS is nearly a *decade* old, and is full of more holes than swiss cheese.


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I'm watching the other videos now. At first, I thought you just hadn't tried much, but now I'm convinced you're not trying in the slightest to figure things out. You're missing almost comically obvious features.

For instance: you complained about the All Programs menu opening "far to slowly" when you hold your mouse over it. Aside from the fact that you can probably change the day with a registry key, you didn't even attempt the obvious solution: clicking the "All Programs" button. That opens it immediately. I'm not even going to list the amount of things such as this: there are too many.

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Quote: "really don't understand why people are still on XP, the OS is nearly a *decade* old, and is full of more holes than swiss cheese"
I can tell you what your full of...

Seriously how many people can afford to upgrade to a new os or computers for that matter...

Quote: "on XP"
If I sat "on" my laptop will be "on" XP? or do I need to sit "on" the HDD. I'll sit on my xp......the cd of course.

Yeah I'm still "on" that drug called XP in fact Dual booting okay Quad booting XP/Vista/Win7/Linux

Do you have a problem with being "on" xp?

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Not every new thing will be better in every way than the old thing. There will be people that jump on every new thing and embrace it, and those who stay behind because "Why fix what ain't broke?" I for one have found several new things in Seven that weren't present in XP to be very useful, enough so that I can overlook the petty qualms with the UI that certain people find unbearable.

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You have listed 2 different ways of using "on", guess how many there are (according to Dictionary.com), there are 49 ways.


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Quote: "@Matuka I think your being a bit unfair in your post. Leadwerks has valid points and I agree with what he says."

Well, that's me, I point out the negatives and the contradictions, but never really point out the positives. It's rare for me to do so.

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Quote: "You have listed 2 different ways of using "on", guess how many there are (according to Dictionary.com), there are 49 ways."


So there are another 47 ways to be "on" XP thanks for the info...

I'm sure when your "on" the forum again "on" being the keyword we could go "on" and "on" till we have talked about all the methods of being "on" XP

Say 8 PM I hope your "on" time or at least online or logged "on" by then.

Gee I could go "on" and "on"....

Nice way of avoiding the subject.

"On" topic again.

Win 7 dissing so soon maybe we could could start "I hate windows" club on the forum like the mickey mouse club you know with all the kids stories balloons cake and sweets but instead our club will play win 7 DVD's backwards any listen to the evil man his self Mr Gates.

If you watch closely win 3.1 will install on your computer.

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Shame I feel for you get Linux then emulate win 7 maybe it works better then.

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I'm with Josh on this one. Its not absolutely horrible, but its not the best either.

It seems they have catered towards dumbing it down a little too much. I guess to gear towards novice or casual computer users, and with that it loses a little advanced functionality that most are used to with XP.

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Quote: "To all the "give it more time" people: 1 day is a perfect amount of time to get to know an OS. If it annoys the crap out of you for one day of usage, why in the world is it going to magically get better? Short answer: It won't"

I completely disagree with that. It's just called "change." It's different is all it is and it takes getting used to. Once you start using it, you will find you might actually like it.

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Quote: "It seems they have catered towards dumbing it down a little too much. I guess to gear towards novice or casual computer users, and with that it loses a little advanced functionality that most are used to with XP."


How so? I'm not putting your statement down, I'm just not sure what you mean.

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Windows 7? When did this happen? Should I care? I feel a bit ripped off, it seems like I just barely got Vista. Which runs great on my poker laptop and is only mildly annoying to use.

And who is this girl? How the hell does she represent Windows? Windows is for greasy nerds, not girls.




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Quote: "I completely disagree with that. It's just called "change." It's different is all it is and it takes getting used to. Once you start using it, you will find you might actually like it.
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Change for the sake of change that is incredibly annoying is rarely a good change and shouldn't need "getting used to". Shining example: Vista

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It never ceases to amaze me how many people don't think XP outdated. As already stated in this thread, it is eight years old. Yes, I know: being 8 years old doesn't necessarily make something useless/outdated/in need of repair. However, when it comes to technology, eight years is a long, long time. Eight years ago, a 1.2 Ghz P4 with 256 MB RAM was decent. Technology and software have changed.

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Quote: "Quote: "I completely disagree with that. It's just called "change." It's different is all it is and it takes getting used to. Once you start using it, you will find you might actually like it.
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Change for the sake of change that is incredibly annoying is rarely a good change and shouldn't need "getting used to". Shining example: Vista"


I'd argue that Windows 7 changed for the better rather than for the sake of (MS changed for the sake of improvements, to create a more stable system and a better user interface and they felt some redesigns would improve the OS and of course, money was another reason, so there was no change for the sake of changing - though it seems not everybody prefers the changes) - it doesn't follow suit entirely of how previous windows worked - however, I found it to be intuitive, it took only a few moments of playing with before doing anything I wanted to find that I liked it.

It did impress me with the first 15 minutes, however, I gave more time on judging it, because you don't notice all of the problems within those 15 minutes.

I found the way it's set out to make me dislike using Vista - the changes I felt were more sensible.

After a few months usage, I still prefer it to Vista and it beats my first experience of XP - I remember when XP was released, "Oh why did they have to upgrade from 98 - it looks ugly and it's more unstable" and I found myself coming across more problems than I did in Win98 - it took until SP2 for those problems to not reoccur. So XP wasn't some god of a windows - it actually took me 2 or 3 years before liking XP. So liking Windows 7 immediately and not experience any problems in the first few months I think is a big improvement on MS.

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She's my Personal Consultant, and getting Windows 7 was her idea.

Leadwerks,

I think you gave this thread a nice, controversial title and got the attention you were looking for. Good job on that. As for selling anyone that W7 is in any way inferior to Vista, good luck with that but I don't think it was your intention. The whole 4 part video thing is just a little too much production.

Brian.

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Quote: "Technology and software have changed."


So we should all go out and buy system heavier operating systems for the hell of it?

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Quote: "So we should all go out and buy system heavier operating systems for the hell of it?"


Not at all. There are many, many valid reasons for upgrading from XP, even if just to Vista. Vista and 7 are designed to use a modern computer (i.e., one purchased in the last 3-4 years) to its full potential (Superfetch and multi-core optimizations in the Windows code, for instance).

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All the people who don't like Windows 7 just hated Vista and want to have something else to whine about now.

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I also think it's a worth a double-post to say that Windows 7 couldn't be better.

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Quote: "Not at all. There are many, many valid reasons for upgrading from XP, even if just to Vista. Vista and 7 are designed to use a modern computer (i.e., one purchased in the last 3-4 years) to its full potential (Superfetch and multi-core optimizations in the Windows code, for instance)."


Key thing is, however: XP is still the better option for lightweight-ness. Doesn't matter how much faster Win7 is than Vista, XP is a featherweight compared the OSes built on 2k3. Its size and relative 'simpleness' negate the need for superfetch (it has prefetch anyhow). XP is also multicore aware too.

That means it's going to be around for a lot longer (vs. feature additions in Vista and W7 - which, let's be frank about it, most users could live without. I can't name a single feature in either I would care about if I lost)

+ Before anyone uses this comparison (maybe they already have) - sticking with XP is not akin to sticking with 9x or many of the older OSes, because it is still an NT OS. It has 99% of the fundamental advantages of Vista/7/2k3. That means it doesn't 'age' quite as badly as everyone seems to be assuming

Quote: "However, when it comes to technology, eight years is a long, long time"


NT itself (the architecture) dates back to '92/93, so year/age comparisons don't really wash very well. All technology is old, that's how it becomes 'proven'

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I suppose the question is, will it optimise my hardware as much - sure it's heavier, but it perhaps better uses my resources. Windows 7 runs snappy, my programs are quick and I wonder what the different would be in frame rates for video games?

Also, Windows 98 is more featherweight than XP - it would make more sense for using it on my old laptop (which my Dad uses) than XP, which it has installed, XPSP2 runs horribly on it, it's only 800mhz with 128mb ram.

Windows XP is perhaps better on my old desktop, which is as old as XP itself. It has the resources to handle it and XP was designed to handle it - okay it meant 98 would have been snappier on that hardware, but 98 was becoming more and more outdated and now it's History.

XP is becoming outdated. XP is perhaps greater for older hardware, but its technology is outdated. Windows 7 runs great on new hardware, my laptop is over a year old and I'm pleased with its results.

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Up the RAM, it'll be fine. 512Mb at least. I run XP on a 630 with 2Gb of RAM, works nicely.

People say Vista/7 are more multicore optimised and it's true. Pity the problem never was with multitasking, it's that hard drives are still a major bottleneck. Two threads aren't better than one when you can't access two files at the same time without incurring head thrash.

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Hehe, I know that RAM's the problem, though I don't think it's worth upping the RAM on the old piece of scrap metal, all my Dad uses it for is MS Word and Excel for all of his Karate admin stuff. I keep telling him to dig out our old copy of Win 98 to put on there.

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I want to use Silly Squirrel Linux.

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I am a personal enthusiast of Ubuntu myself, but ordinarily I just use Vista.

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Windows 7, in my opinion, brought only good. XP is, like said, a decade old and support is fading - which is a good thing.

Windows 7 offers a lot of functionality Windows should've had long ago, like the libraries. The new taskbar is brilliant as soon as you figure out the 'how'. I mean, how useful is it to pin Chrome there, then have direct access to your most visited sites by right-clicking?

But most of all, I love the Window Management. It might feel a bit gimmicky, but I can't stress how much I love being able to put two windows next to each other in two simple gestures. Or being able to fullscreen a window and minimize all others in two gestures.

Besides that, the customization options (besides on Starter edition) are endless. Themes, changing backgrounds, colors, it's all there.

Its perceived speed is good, even though it's not much faster than Vista it definitely feels as snappy as XP did. Stability looks good to me: it hasn't crashed on me yet on 6 different PC's and the usability range is wide - you can use it efficiently whether you're a Powershell-hacker or a complete n00b.

Yeah, I really, really, really like Windows 7. More than I've ever liked other Windows OS'es, or my hack-away Linux OS systems, or the Mac OSX systems I've used and loved (the "why-can't-I-resize-a-window-on-the-left-side"-question keeps bothering me, though, besides the obvious lack of customization options).


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Quote: "I mean, how useful is it to pin Chrome there, then have direct access to your most visited sites by right-clicking? "


How do I do that?!?

Quote: "Its perceived speed is good, even though it's not much faster than Vista it definitely feels as snappy as XP did."


While there isn't a game or processing benefit over Vista, Win7 has an 8-10% "responsive" improvement over Vista. It's hard to explain. Tom's Hardware did some tests, though. Read the article to see what I mean.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-7-performance,2442.html

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Quote: " The new taskbar is brilliant as soon as you figure out the 'how'."


Oh yeah! At first the stacking and pinning feature was disorienting, and I didn't like it. After 24 hours I was like, "this is freaking awesome!"

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Why complain about having no more of the cascading menus in the start menu? The classic start menu gave me icky feelings whenever someone had it turned on in their computer. I want to use the start menu as a quick way to get access to the file browser, whether by clicking your username, Documents, Music, Whatever folder, then navigating in Windows Explorer.

Having to deal with an entire screen full of start menu sub-menus when browsing through multi-folder deep start menu entries or when you have a lot of applications installed was a nightmare. My favorite thing about Vista was the new run bar. I didn't even have to take my hands away from the keyboard:

1. Press Windows key
2. Start typing "not", First thing to come up (because I used it so often) was Notepad.
4. Press enter
5. Start typing in my new blank notepad document.

In XP it would have worked like this:

1. Press Windows key
2. R, assuming that you didn't have anything pinned to your start menu that started with R. In which case you might have to press R twice, then press enter.
3. In the Run dialog, type "notepad" exactly, if you misspell it then it will give you a "Command not found" error.
4. Press enter.
5. Start typing in my new blank notepad document.

Same number of steps, but much less of a hassle in Vista/7.

You can get the same thing for applications, no more scrolling through your start menu, quietly saying the ABCs in your head and having to remember to Right Click->Sort by name every now and then. Just type "dark" and there's DBPro, waiting for you to use and abuse it.

[EDIT]Your video is titled "Windows 7, Worse than Vista", but have you actually even used Vista? It sure looks like you haven't.

[EDITEDIT]Just saw part 4, I agree with you on the new MovieMaker. OS X got rid of the Timeline in the latest version of iMovie, and Apple ended up having to rerelease the old version of iMovie for free because it had the timeline that the newer one was lacking.

[EDITEDITEDIT]Your condemnation of Microsoft to failure seems naive. Microsoft has a dominant market share primarily because of OEM agreements. The playing field has always been more level between OS X and Windows than people have made it out to be because of the fact that there's a discrepancy in somebody making a conscious decision to buy a Windows operating system, versus just going with the cheap manufacturer brand or being handed a desktop workstation by their employer who gets some lease or mass-purchase deal from Dell or HP.

And to be honest, you'll probably hate OS X even more than 7, because Finder lacks many of the convenience features that Windows Explorer has. I'm openly admitting this as a happy Mac user. I'm able to overcome the pitfalls of the file management interface by addons, and also just dealing with it. The benefits that I find in using OS X such as the pre-included drivers for a lot of my midi controllers, the midi IAC driver, and the Unix underbelly, outweigh my beefs with the interface. You'll probably find eventually that the benefits of Windows 7 outweigh these gripes you have.
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^Most sensible post in this thread.

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Windows seven is awesome! I've been using it for almost 3 months now... how long did you use it before making this review? 1 day????

no offense i just think you should use it longer first...

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Putting single-click shortcuts on the same linear axis as running programs... 'nuff said.

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I found the RC fantastic. It didn't run like crap, drivers installed themselves and Steam would actually run on windows startup - something XP fails to do.

And it takes a lot less time to get from first boot screen to fully loaded desktop. On XP you have to wait a minute for all the applications to sort themselves out - on 7, it all happened instantly.



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Quote: "On XP you have to wait a minute for all the applications to sort themselves out - on 7, it all happened instantly."


Try a fresh install of XP and you'll see it's the same.
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My install of XP was fresh at the time. I had the same stuff installed on 7 as I did XP.

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Quote: "My install of XP was fresh at the time. I had the same stuff installed on 7 as I did XP."


Interesting. I recently installed XP on an 8 year old machine and it starts up relatively fast, compared to previously where it'd take several minutes for certain applications and services to initialize.
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I'm getting a little sick of the OS controversy that seems to be floating around. To me, it seemed like a lot of people (not everybody, mind you) hated Vista just because they heard it was bad and they got it in their mind that it was the truth. Now the same thing has happened with Windows 7 except they've got it in their mind that it is good.

I'm not saying everyone is this way. But when people hear something before they experience, they get an idea in their head and that affects their experience.

Personally I enjoy using Vista and have no intention of jumping up to 7 until I need to upgrade my computer as a whole - probably to 64-bit.

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Is there a single compelling reason to switch from XP to Windows 7? Not from where I'm standing.

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Quote: "I'm getting a little sick of the OS controversy that seems to be floating around. To me, it seemed like a lot of people (not everybody, mind you) hated Vista just because they heard it was bad and they got it in their mind that it was the truth. Now the same thing has happened with Windows 7 except they've got it in their mind that it is good."


Truth. What do Barack Obama, OS X, Twitter, and Windows 7 have in common?

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