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gibson543
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Hey everyone, I'm a pretty good website maker, I've been making for around a year. and I've made some pretty good sites for people. I will make a site for anyone that wants to show off whatever work they have done, may that be 3d modeling, scripting, vioce work, or games. It shoudn't take me that long to finish the site, but I will need photos and possibly downloadable items if you want that

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Jeku
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Do you have any samples of sites you've done, so we can get a feel for your portfolio? It's not as important since you're doing it for free, but it would still be nice for us to see


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BearCDP
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I'd definitely like to see some of your work. Actually, I'm in the process of acquiring a logo for a portfolio site. I've learned the cool new way of doing styles and tableless layouts, but it's time-consuming.

Do you have any experience creating Wordpress templates?

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gibson543
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Im afraid I've never worked with Wordpress before, but it looks interesting. As for my work, you can visit

[href]www.wix.com/mtksoldiers/mtksoldiers[/href]

[href]www.mtksoldiersclan.webs.com[/href]

[href]www.bioshockgamers.webs.com[/href]

And if you've noticed that the bioshockgamers is empty, please let me say I've given up on it lol

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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Seems to be all done with templates and site builders. Nothing against that, but other than the content (which is up to the person who wants it) what is there left to do?

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gibson543
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well, thats just sites for people that really requested a quick site, so i used sitebuilders, i do use other editor softwares, but those are the only ones that I have uploaded so far

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Phaelax
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So what have you built from scratch, is what I think everyone here is asking to see.

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crispex
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GAH! Site builders! WYSIWYG editors! GAH! Sorry, but NEVER call yourself a "good web developer" if you don't even code from scratch.

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gibson543
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Posted: 5th Nov 2009 23:04 Edited at: 5th Nov 2009 23:06
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since I don't have anything ready for you, seeing as I haven't uploaded a full site from scratch yet, I will show you a simple site I made in like twenty or so minutes. It's not my best work, seeing the short amount of time, but In think it will show what I can do in a short amount of time. And the top banner that's cut off is an animated promotional banner (and yes I used bannersnack for the banner, flash isn't my thing)



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Lukas W
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The thing is, when you are promoting yourself we don't want to see what you can do fast. We want to see what you are really capable of.

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lazerus
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A screenshot in a screenshot, how quaint...


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gibson543
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okay.....look, could all of u ppl stop with the critisism. I mean, really, it's just free website requests. It's not like you have to pay or anything if anyone has any REQUEST... feel free to post.

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lazerus
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no, no, no

Sorry you misunderstand, it wasnt a crit ^_^ i was just thinking how many screen shots i could take till i hit the == curve


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gibson543
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i actually wasn't talkin bout u, lazerus, urs i didn't mind lol, i just kinda wanted to make myself known that i can make a pretty good site, but now every1 that comes to this topic is just going to notice all the replies that are bad for me, and then they'll most likely leave.


BUT IF ANYONE WANTS A SITE, THE OFFER STILL STANDS

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crispex
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So...I'm guessing anyone who does get a site "made" by you, you will want a "Made by such and such" branded on the footer or something...for something they could easily do themselves if they look for templates.

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gibson543
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okay fine, since ppl like u r being total *****, I will take this buisness to another forum **** ***!!

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Jeku
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@gibson543 - Please watch your language on here. We don't allow people to curse with asterisks. Thanks.


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crispex
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I'm sorry for asking a simple question.

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Quote: "okay fine, since ppl like u r being total *****, I will take this buisness to another forum **** ***!!"


How do you expect to improve if you accept praise but swear at criticism? You can't get better at something without knowing what you're doing wrong, which is exactly what everyone has been trying to tell you. I doubt another forum is going to be any different, but if you're going to blow this off too then go right ahead.

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gibson543
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alright everyone, I'm extremely sorry about that outburst, I was just very frusturated. So if any mod could please lock or erase this topic, that would be greatly appreciated

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If your trying to promote a service, the least you could do is use proper words and write in complete sentences! You'll never get anyone on the bandwagon if you present yourself that poorly!

It's like going to a job interview in your underwear...

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In Gibson's defense, he's offering a free service, take it for what its worth. Don't like his work, make your own and keep quiet.

Gibson, if you're looking for projects to do just to give you some designs you can show off in a portfolio for future work, feel free to look at my sites. Use the content on them (or any website) and build your own design and layout. I know how it helps to actually have specific content in mind when designing.

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It's not that we don't mind what he does, it's that he's offering a "service" based on pre-existing templates and WYSIWYG editors. It makes web developers look bad whenever someone comes in saying they are "pretty good" when they've never done any hard coding.

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gibson543
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Posted: 6th Nov 2009 13:20 Edited at: 6th Nov 2009 13:26
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im actually not using these templates your speaking of, did you look at my screenshot, does that look like a premade template to you? Although, I will admit to using the BlueVoda editor. I know HTML, it's just that this is faster.

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crispex
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Yes, and it looks poorly produced too. You need to put time into your sites, otherwise they will look like garbage.

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Quote: "GAH! Site builders! WYSIWYG editors! GAH! Sorry, but NEVER call yourself a "good web developer" if you don't even code from scratch."

I would disagree with that - I see no problems with using some WYSIWYG editors, although templates are usually a bad thing.

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Quote: "GAH! Site builders! WYSIWYG editors! GAH! Sorry, but NEVER call yourself a "good web developer" if you don't even code from scratch."


I too disagree with this. The best programmers know when to reuse code and when to code something from scratch.


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Posted: 7th Nov 2009 00:22 Edited at: 7th Nov 2009 00:25
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Quote: "The best programmers know when to reuse code and when to code something from scratch."


Sure, but saying that you code everything from scratch in notepad sounds so cool!

I agree with some here that would say "put you best foot forward". Don't throw something together in 2 minutes to show what you can do, unless you can do something amazing in two minutes. We can only judge what you show us.

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The closest help I personally use is syntax highlighting, otherwise I get thrown off by all the brackets.

WYSIWYG editors very rarely look the same in ALL browsers. There is a thing called W3C Compatibility. Though it's not vital to be 100% valid, if you are it makes your site look the same in all browsers.

Yes, looking the same in all browsers is VERY important. With the fall of Internet Explorer, Firefox, Opera, and Google Chrome (Safari too) have all made a sudden increase in users, hence it's very important to make sure your sites look fine in all. That is why WYSIWYG editors are a bad thing. Yes, they help, but if you know what you're doing you should be able to either use it for only a few code bits, or not use it at all. And browsers use different rendering for each one, so that is very important to remember.

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Quote: "if you are it makes your site look the same in all browsers."


Except IE.

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Actually true. Internet Explorer has HORRIBLE rendering. It's nearly impossible to develop for unless you use Microsoft's web studio software.

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Well, web development applications in my experience are 5% HTML/CSS browser issues and 95% PHP logic that has nothing to do with browsers. My partner at work uses Dreamweaver to save time with basic site structure, and I don't see any problems with that. Using a powerful IDE like NetBeans with straight-up PHP can save you a ton of time and memorization.


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Using a special IDE isn't all bad, it saves alot of type like Jeku said.
I would hate to used notepad to develop a huge website, i use Dreamweaver to create the layout then do the content and logic in HTML-Kit for the syntax highlighting. You just don't rely on the tools.


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Quote: "Well, web development applications in my experience are 5% HTML/CSS browser issues and 95% PHP logic"


You need to have an equal balance of it all. While PHP is a pain to debug, you obviously have never focused on cross-browser computability. If you knew about web development you would know that HTML, CSS, and nearly all other visual elements (note I said NEARLY) are parsed by the browser while PHP and other server-side scripting languages are handled by the server. Your browser has nothing to do with PHP, it has to do with the visual elements such as HTML and CSS, thus of course PHP related issues don't deal with the browser, what an obvious statement. I'm talking about cross-browser compatibility visually.

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Quote: "Internet Explorer has HORRIBLE rendering. It's nearly impossible to develop for unless you use Microsoft's web studio software."


Umm not really. IE quirks are rather easy to work around and still pass validation. I have more trouble getting FF to look the way I want.

I've only ever used Netbeans for Java, not php. I like my Notepad++.

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Quote: "you obviously have never focused on cross-browser computability."


I am a senior web developer at a large company, I know a thing or two about development and cross-browser issues

Quote: "If you knew about web development you would know that HTML, CSS, and nearly all other visual elements (note I said NEARLY) are parsed by the browser while PHP and other server-side scripting languages are handled by the server."


Was this directed at me? Notice I said that most of the PHP logic I write has nothing to do with browsers. I write a lot of lower level server apps in PHP, and we hire web designers to make it look good.

Quote: "I've only ever used Netbeans for Java, not php. I like my Notepad++."


I used to be a die-hard Ultra-Edit guy, but NetBeans is great because it has intellisense for everything, which makes it, for me anyways, the "Visual Studio" of PHP programming. It also has built-in Symfony hooks which is nice


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Quote: "Umm not really. IE quirks are rather easy to work around and still pass validation. I have more trouble getting FF to look the way I want."


Internet Explorer's rendering can't even come CLOSE to passing the Acid 3 test, a test that was presented a few years back. Internet Explorer failed with a low score of 20/100.

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The Acid tests... Whilst it's important to make sure that all web browsers do roughly the same thing, how many websites work or look anything like the tests? It IS important to make sure that stupid mistakes aren't made.

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Quote: "Internet Explorer's rendering can't even come CLOSE to passing the Acid 3 test"


I think most would agree that IE8 is their worst browser yet, probably why I haven't seen anyone use it yet. I'm fine with IE6. And to ignore IE's presence on the web is just a bad mistake. I'm not saying IE is a great browser by any means (cause Chrome rules all), but it's not really a big of a deal as everyone tries to make it out to be.

Safari, FF, Opera; I've seen differences come up in all of them. So which is really better? There's still a few things no browser agrees on.

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Quote: "And to ignore IE's presence on the web is just a bad mistake."


How true. IE users make up 37.5 of web surfers. We can't just develop for the browser we like best.

Quote: "cause Chrome rules all"


Just lately Chrome started freezing up on me every once in a while. It gets sluggish, then stops all together. When it does, there's no escape. I can't exit, CRTL-ALT-DELETE, nothing. The system won't respond and I have to do a hard shutdown. IE and FireFox don't have the issue.

Any ideas?

And.... to get back on topic, I like to look at sites like this when I need inspiration.


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I think Google just release version 4 beta: http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/chrome/beta/

They must've made some changes recently. Before I never had a single issue with crashing. But a few weeks ago I had a new install on a fresh HD and installed everything over again, most likely newer versions. And Chrome has locked up and crashed on me twice in the past couple of weeks. But aside from that, still more responsive than FF.

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I've also noticed, using Chrome and Firefox side by side, that Chrome does not display my AdBrite ads. Is there a setting for banner ads?

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Not sure, but you might look into this to block more online ads:
http://lifehacker.com/5046529/how-to-block-ads-in-google-chrome

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Thanks. No help. I want it to show my ads on my site, but I see no settings that would either block or allow them.

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