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Zeroff
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K, my dad got me DarkGAMEStudio (yes that the one with DBPro and other game engines) last year for my birthday, and now finding out that DarkBASIC Pro is free what would happen for people who brought it? I don't realy care about me since DarkGAMEStudio came with alot of stuff with it. But if people who download DarkBASIC Pro would they get DarkGAME Studio for free?

BTW, DARKBASIC PRO IS THE BEST GAME ENGINE!

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lazerus
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Posted: 6th Nov 2009 21:54 Edited at: 6th Nov 2009 21:54
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laugh. Its pretty much all you can do.

havnt you noticed the Ureal 3 engine going free? that was £5000 or something stupid, DBp was what £100? i thibk, never crossed my mind to code, just media.


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Tom J
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Quote: "DBp was what £100?"


It was less than that, I remember it being around £45 on here when I bought it ages ago, and it had probably gone down in price at sometime since.
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Zeroff
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Posted: 6th Nov 2009 22:00
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Quote: "laugh. Its pretty much all you can do.

havnt you noticed the Ureal 3 engine going free? that was £5000 or something stupid, DBp was what £100? i thibk, never crossed my mind to code, just media.
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REALLY! I must try the Unreal engine tomurrow.

Quote: "It was less than that, I remember it being around £45 on here when I bought it ages ago, and it had probably gone down in price at sometime since. "
I dunno, I only found out about DarkBASIC Pro last year

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Diggsey
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Posted: 6th Nov 2009 22:41
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@Zeroff
You got DBPro a year earlier than the people who didn't pay. When you pay for something you pay to get it now. You know you will get it straight away. If you don't pay, then you may have to wait indefinitely for it to become free.


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Cash Curtis II
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Posted: 6th Nov 2009 23:28
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Quote: "what would happen for people who brought it?"

We get extra cool points. None of the plugins are free, that's how TGC will continue to make money from DBP.


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Airslide
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We don't get ads. Personally I hate the idea of ads in the IDE, so I'm quite happy with that

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Aaagreen
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'tis the season, for free engines! Tralalalala, lalalala

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Zeroff
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Posted: 7th Nov 2009 13:03
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You got DBPro a year earlier than the people who didn't pay. When you pay for something you pay to get it now. You know you will get it straight away. If you don't pay, then you may have to wait indefinitely for it to become free.
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Yeap, and also the ads must be ennoying when people code in the free version, like when your coding all of a sudden a giant ad comes up.

Quote: "We get extra cool points. None of the plugins are free, that's how TGC will continue to make money from DBP.
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YAY!

Quote: "We don't get ads. Personally I hate the idea of ads in the IDE, so I'm quite happy with that
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I don't see the point of adds because people don't click on them anyway.



Quote: "'tis the season, for free engines! Tralalalala, lalalala"
lol yeah.

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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 7th Nov 2009 14:25
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Quote: "I don't see the point of adds because people don't click on them anyway."


Actually, they do. If there's an ad for something I might find interesting, I'll click it. Most ads are useless, but you might find something.

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David R
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Quote: " I don't see the point of adds because people don't click on them anyway"


I actually clicked an ad once and ended up buying the product! Weird, I know (But really, I did)

Effective ads are one in a million though, I agree

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BatVink
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Quote: "I don't see the point of adds because people don't click on them anyway."


The point is that it allows products to be given away free. I would suggest clicking on the odd advert here and there for your own benefit .

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Zeus
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Posted: 7th Nov 2009 17:06
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I haven't seen the free DBP yet, then again I have no point in getting it, I already have regular DBP.

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Grog Grueslayer
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Quote: "what would happen for people who brought it?"


We get to use Darkbasic Pro without ads. Me, I don't watch live TV anymore... I wait till my shows record on the DVR then watch them later so I can skip the commercials. Ads and me don't get along too well.

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Satchmo
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I switched to DBP because of the free version, maybe later I'll by it but for now the ads are fine.

One thing though, Lee really needs to work on making sure you can't get around the ad system, in fact right now I can hide the ad by hiding the output bar.

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Dared1111
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Heh, It must be free Game-Dev software year. At least this makes up for the rubbish year lots of people are having.

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hyrichter
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The only ads I saw in the free version were for TGC products. And if you really want to be ad-free you can just use a different IDE.

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Syncaidius
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Posted: 7th Nov 2009 19:29 Edited at: 7th Nov 2009 19:30
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Wonder what will happen to the end part of the newsletter where one person per month would get a free copy of DBP, since now everyone can get it for free.

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Nevermind, I just realized the last newsletter was 2000 store points not a free copy of DBP to a lucky person.


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Accoun
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Posted: 7th Nov 2009 19:43
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Quote: "I don't see the point of adds because people don't click on them anyway."

I click on lots of ads... by accident. I want to click something else and I found out that I clicked on ad...

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Posted: 7th Nov 2009 23:22
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I have clicked on 1 ad in my life, last night, for Retro Gamer magazine. 80 pounds later and I have a subscription It's expensive but it's the best magazine out there, in my opinion.

Quote: "The only ads I saw in the free version were for TGC products. And if you really want to be ad-free you can just use a different IDE."


Thank goodness Lee didn't implement it on an X number of compiles basis, like after every 100 compiles you get a 30-second "This execution was brought to you by Coffee Crisp!" commercial.


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Posted: 8th Nov 2009 10:03 Edited at: 8th Nov 2009 10:06
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I would love to get the free version even if it's ad supported.

However 256mb is a bit much for me to download.

I would love to see a smaller striped down ad supported version.Really don't need the extra demos and stuff would really like to see just the software....with ads of course.

Lee if your reading think about the guys with little or no bandwidth

Till then I would have to pass!!!(I pay about $30 per 500MB of data)

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Blobby 101
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Also, It seems a bit unfair that they get those demos which (as far as I can see) aren't included in the full version. In fact, when I installed 7.3 (I think) it actually removed the media files from all the existing demos and they no longer work, I don't want to have to download the whole of DB just with ads so that I can get those demos.

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Zeroff
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Why don't exsisting DarkBASIC Pro users (the ones who brought it) get something for free like... Oh I dunno.. The HERO ENGINE! lol.

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David iz cool
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Posted: 8th Nov 2009 18:29 Edited at: 8th Nov 2009 18:30
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its the end of dbp! i think when a company cant sell a product they might as well give it away for free,no one will buy it anyway. lol


honestly i think tgc are failing. too bad for them. :/
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Quote: "think when a company cant sell a product they might as well give it away for free,no one will buy it anyway. lol"

Like Epic Games and their Unreal Engine?

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Neuro Fuzzy
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Quote: "honestly i think tgc are failing. too bad for them. :/ "


...flame bait?

You just think tgc is failing because you can't program the things that you want, and then you blame it on the language. I'm pretty sure that DBP was selling ok, as there were a lot of new users. Even if DBPro was selling 0 copies, there's still all the other products TGC sells.

I think your comment is kinda shortsighted...
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Posted: 9th Nov 2009 05:09 Edited at: 9th Nov 2009 05:22
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It depends on what he defines as failing, and more or less in any case he can be proven wrong.

If he means sales? I'm sure DBPro was still selling regularly, but since FPSC was released TGC's had one hell of a money-maker on their hands. I'm sure that is more than enough to keep them afloat, and the ad revenue from the free version from the influx of users should help considerably. So I don't see much failing in that department.

If he means in regards to their tools on the other hands? Then yeah, it's his own fault he can't apply himself and use them properly.

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I think giving DBP away for free is the smartest move TGC have ever made. They will attract a lot of people who wouldn't buy it or who aren't even into programming. Then when these people get into it TGC can flog them add-ons and other products.

Did anyone watch that program about Bob Noyce (Podfather on BBC), his company (intel) invented integrated circuits and he had the bright idea of selling them for less than they cost to make. By doing so they became standard in most electronics and well the rest is history. That's kind of what TGC are doing.

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heh, that actually reminds me uof a similar case at this japanese restaurant i go to. They were really losing a lot of business, so they started up a 50% off sushi sale. After that, tons of people started to go there, and their income went up a ton because everyone bought the other side items when they were there.
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David iz cool
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yeh keep thinking warm fuzzy thoughts. lol

i personally dont give a [mod edit]WHEN ARE PEOPLE GOING TO LEARN THAT STARRING OUT SWEARS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. 7 DAY NOOB SLAP[/mod edit] what happens to dbp or tgc!
im going to finish my current game with dbp then go somewhere else where there actually professional and have some kind of hope of making a decent product! i mean u cant even have shadows in ur game with dbp pathetic! or try to use the reflection shading without a fr of 3.
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Quote: "i mean u cant even have shadows in ur game with dbp pathetic! or try to use the reflection shading without a fr of 3. "

Guess what mate, you can't in any professional programming languages either - because they're languages, not drag and drop editors. I hate to say it, but you have no idea what constitutes to a decent programming language.

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Tom J
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Poor business undestanding, angst with DBP and poor grammar make for an amusing post, I must say.

When you reduce the price of an elastic product, the demand for it goes up drastically, and with it the demand for complementing products (ie. Addon packs like Dark Physics and AI) will also increase drastically, so as a consequence more revenue will be made from the addons. Hence the move TGC have made is good business sense, it's not a sign of a sinking ship.
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Im still convinced tgc has got something really big up its sleeve
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Zeroff
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I don't think that DBPro is failing. If they gave stuff for free that was failing than 3D Game Maker would be free (not being offensive, I just can't stand the engine TBH but my little brother likes it )

Quote: "Im still convinced tgc has got something really big up its sleeve "
They proberly do.

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Quote: "[quote]Im still convinced tgc has got something really big up its sleeve"
They proberly do.[/quote]
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The only thing annoying me about this is the fact they mentioned a free media set for us who have owned DB Pro for awhile. I have looked in my order history, and can only assume because I was stupid enough to buy DB Pro on day of release at retail, I am now being stiffed out of the free media. Which is a shame because I was wanting some modern looking stuff for a possible spectrum game update. When TG make these offers, they should think about the loyal who have been around long before they started selling mainly online. I have only ordered add ons and such through the website, both my Dark Basic and Pro were purchased at retail.

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