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GamerDude
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Posted: 13th Nov 2009 01:02 Edited at: 13th Nov 2009 01:03
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As title says.

EDIT: did a virus scan and found 14 tracking cookies, maybe this could have caused it. Ill do a full search tonight.

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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 13th Nov 2009 01:09 Edited at: 13th Nov 2009 01:14
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Tracking cookies are irrelevant. They're just lists of sites where you saw ads. If you're using Firefox, I'm unsurprised it's crashing that often. The later versions suck that much. Try uninstalling extensions. Flash might be dragging the browser down with it, too.

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Posted: 13th Nov 2009 01:21
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Right, uninstall extensions to see if that helps, otherwise the generic "programs crash" errors could be hardware based, RAM, hard drive, etc.

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Silvester
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Posted: 13th Nov 2009 11:29
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FireFox always crashed on me while loading ANYTHING Flash related... So I switched to Chrome.


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Benjamin
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Posted: 13th Nov 2009 12:01
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I'd suggest Opera but this has been crashing quite a bit for me lately.
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Posted: 13th Nov 2009 13:40 Edited at: 13th Nov 2009 13:40
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Perhaps we should all get together and write a DECENT web browser. With hardware accelerated page rendering. Maybe then IGN and their transparent backgrounds will be bearable.

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Posted: 13th Nov 2009 13:54
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Quote: "Perhaps we should all get together and write a DECENT web browser. With hardware accelerated page rendering. Maybe then IGN and their transparent backgrounds will be bearable."

That would be an idea to post up in the Programming Talk forums. It might just get a few people to help with that. Although I'm not sure if it's possible to render html with hardware acceleration... Then again I'm kind of stupid when it comes to rendering procedures.


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Posted: 13th Nov 2009 18:03
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Quote: "render html with hardware acceleration..."


Sure it is. HTML is hierarchical. Every tag would have a display list only rebuilt when its direct contents were modified. Resizing the page would probably end up slower than software rendering (though I don't know) but scrolling any page at all should be blissfully smooth.

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Posted: 13th Nov 2009 19:36
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Quote: "Sure it is. HTML is hierarchical. Every tag would have a display list only rebuilt when its direct contents were modified. Resizing the page would probably end up slower than software rendering (though I don't know) but scrolling any page at all should be blissfully smooth."

Hadn't thought of it like that yet.


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Posted: 13th Nov 2009 19:52 Edited at: 13th Nov 2009 19:54
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Quote: "With hardware accelerated page rendering."


Achieves nothing (except on WinXP and earlier) because any modern OS using compositing is hardware accelerating display operations any way. Might make a difference to heavily sandboxed/VMed browsers (like FF) but I don't think it would be worth it

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The OS is compositing the windows themselves and their borders. But not the contents. That is still fully software rendered and then put into a buffer, am I right? I'm talking about GL drawing every single image and object in the HTML file.

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Posted: 13th Nov 2009 20:31
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Only blitting and clearing operations and some non-client area drawing is hardware accelerated in windows, and even that depends on the hardware.


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Posted: 13th Nov 2009 20:40
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I thought as much. Thanks.

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GamerDude
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Posted: 13th Nov 2009 23:58
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it seems to be working fine now. I do not know what caused it. but hopefully it won't happen again.

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Posted: 14th Nov 2009 00:58
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Quote: "Only blitting and clearing operations and some non-client area drawing is hardware accelerated in windows, and even that depends on the hardware.
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Depends entirely on OS. Win7 can use Direct2D (vs. GDI) and OS X can use Quartz / Quartz Extreme. But by the time you gather pace to develop a new browser, these composited draw methods will be the native/standard

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I've had a fair share of issues related to the new Firefox (3.5.x). It has many more Flash / JavaScript related errors than version 3.

I normally use Opera, try it, you've got nothing to loose. I found it faster than Firefox, though I'm sure many could disagree.

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