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Lemonade
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Posted: 20th Nov 2009 21:28 Edited at: 20th Nov 2009 21:33
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Google just officially revealed their OS, Chrome OS. I'm not sure what to think of it. Basically, it's a browser. No personal files, including programs, ever make it to your hard drive. It's all stored on the Internet. If you lose connection, well...you're pwned.



First, here's Google's official page about it:

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html

Then there's a couple videos (made by Google) on Gizmodo:

http://gizmodo.com/5408540/what-is-google-chrome-os-explained-by-google

Makes sure you don't download it! There has been a fake download going around that was even posted on Gizmodo. Take a look at this link:

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/174593/beware_the_fake_google_chrome_os_download.html

It's interesting. I for one am not ready to sacrifice all my applications for speed (a boot up time of only a few seconds).

edit:

It looks like it will only support SSDs. I guess they expect that by next year when the OS is released, that will be the standard. I hope so, but that's a bold move.
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Robert F
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Posted: 20th Nov 2009 21:43 Edited at: 20th Nov 2009 21:45
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What an epic, epic, EPIC fail by Google. This has to be one of the DUMBEST ideas ever. You know what it reminds me of... A giant cell phone. Yeah its cool to do all this stuff on a phone, but what if you put this on your desktop. What is the point?

Seriously I could make this whole os in vb.net.
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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 20th Nov 2009 21:44 Edited at: 20th Nov 2009 21:45
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Oh...my...Goodness...

Now we'll start having "Chrome OS vs. Mac vs. Linux vs. PC" wars. Fantastic...

I guess the idea is cool, it's just...I dunno, aren't there enough OSes already?

EDIT:

Actually, I agree with Robert, it's a fail. I give it about a year before it dies off.

Programming is too difficult for me, unfortunately...darn.
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wow, thats... ridiculous.
All your files and programs are on the web? That could not be any stupider. Ever. Not only will that make it much much MUCH MUCH easier for people to steal your files and personal information, but you're also screwed if your internet is slow or unreliable. Sure, it eliminates the need for buying bigger hard drives or flash drives or whatever, but now you'll have to pay for a web server to host your files. Rather than buying a 1TB drive for a one time price of approximately $80.00, you'll have to pay every month to have somewhere to keep your files.
I honestly never thought I'd see google do something so incredibly stupid.

I have a devious mind.
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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 20th Nov 2009 21:51
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Agreed. Storing all of one's files on the web? Preposterous, I say!

I'd much rather spend $80 USD on a 1TB hard drive one time than pay a monthly fee. And what good is that OS going to be for, anyway? You won't be able to edit photos or video, or program games on it, or do any of the fun stuff any of us here do all of the time.

Google, if you're reading this, please re-think this whole thing through.

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Posted: 20th Nov 2009 21:52 Edited at: 20th Nov 2009 21:53
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Quote: "Now we'll start having "Chrome OS vs. Mac vs. Linux vs. PC" wars. Fantastic... "


Well, actually they don't even compare. Chrome is for netbooks, what Google called "secondary machines".

Quote: "All your files and programs are on the web? That could not be any stupider. Ever. Not only will that make it much much MUCH MUCH easier for people to steal your files and personal information, but you're also screwed if your internet is slow or unreliable."


I know, that's what is bugging me. I mean, the computer will only be as fast as the internet connection.

Hey...shouldn't MS and Mozilla be able to sue Google for supplying the user with only one browser option? That's what happened with MS, right?
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Yeah, I hate the whole idea about the internet files thing to... and I bet you, Google is the one you will be paying for hosting.

That will be the differences in their os too probably, instead of ultimate, pro and home it will be like 1gb's , 5gb's or 100gb's
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Posted: 20th Nov 2009 22:01
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I wouldn't mind having it as a dual boot where I had the option when I started my computer to use Chrome OS or Windows, but by itself, I agree it's a stupid idea.


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Posted: 20th Nov 2009 22:01 Edited at: 20th Nov 2009 22:03
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Quote: "That will be the differences in their os too probably, instead of ultimate, pro and home it will be like 1gb's , 5gb's or 100gb's"


Maybe. If so, I can already tell you that it will fail really, really EPICALLY. Nobody will want to pay them any amount for a set hard drive limit. It's one thing to have to buy a new hard drive when a person needs more space, but paying once for a set amount would seem ludicrous.

And, does each Chrome OS user get their own server, or do their files upload to a random one and then Google gives the user a link they have to use to access each separate file? Gosh, that'd be nasty!

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Posted: 20th Nov 2009 22:02
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Wow, I would never trust an OS that puts all my stuff on the internet. Can't say I like this.
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Posted: 20th Nov 2009 22:31 Edited at: 20th Nov 2009 22:32
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Hmm...I think I'm going to go against the crowd on this one...

...wait for it...

I think it is a good idea.


Why?

Because I'm one of the people who'd make use of such a thing. Not as a primary OS...but to dual boot with.

I use Google Documents for storing Documents? Why? Because for a start it means I have back up, but it also means I can access them from other computers. And I've found myself in these scenarios.

Lecture: My work is at home. Bugger, easy mistake. I have to apologise and hand it in another time. With Google Docs, I can go straight to the Library and print it off. No late work.

Performance: We have performance poetry workshop at Uni, I didn't know that as part of the workshop, we'd be joining some professional Poets in a stage performance...Tada! I have poetry on my Google docs - "Give me 10 minutes to print it off and I'll be there", which is alternative to my friend who said, "I haven't got time to head off home".

Last minute workshop session. My fiction is on Google docs.

NaNoWriMo '08: I've got spare time at Uni...I best add to my NaNoWriMo. It's on my Google Docs. I'll just sit in the library and work on it.

Printing: I didn't bring a printer this year to Uni. It works out cheaper and more convenient for me to print at the library. So having everything on Google docs...helps. Saves money on replacing my USB drive too and I don't want to accidentally loose my external HDD because it is another back-up source of mine.

Collaberation: Do I need to show something of mine to some one.

Presentations: Setup time would be minimalised if I didn't say, "Hang on a minute, I've got to wait for my OS to load up...no, I don't want to update that program...I can update my Apple software later too. Go away MSN and Raptr. Now, just about there..." Or how just this Wednesday, I wanted to check what rooms were free quickly (university has room booking information online), I had my laptop and something like Google OS would have made that very quick. This could also apply to the local Sports center, who handle Squash and Badminton court bookings online and other online booking could be dealt with quicker.

Lectures (again): Sometimes if I'm a little late or I'm not early enough, I can miss some lecture notes if I'm waiting Windows to start up, pass the updates and load Open Office. The queue for coffee can sometimes be long.

All of my music comes now from Spotify, which is an online source, if Google provides a similar service or allows access to Spotify, I'll be pleased...also if it allows me to use SHOUTcast to connect to our student radio...even though a web player for it is on its way.

It'd mean a less cluttered work environment for when I'm writing, or doing something related to Uni, my Storytelling group or other various things. So I can't actually wait for its release. Any details on that? Likewise for the public release of Wave (which would make collaboration in my Storytelling group a lot better). Right now I could start a new wave in Google OS saying, "December Christmas Performance: Who wants to participate?"
Followed by:
"Are people able to make it on the 9th?"
And many other things. Google OS combined with many of Googles web services would be very handy for me.



Obviously it's not for everybody, it's marketed as a secondary OS and to people like me. Not to compete with Windows, MacOS or Linux...because that would be pointless. They've tapped into an open market and kudos to them.

I'll be happy if Google OS is secure and all of its web services remain so.

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Posted: 20th Nov 2009 22:39
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You do make some good points there, but can you imaine if google went down... It would be like going to school with nothing in your hands.
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Yodaman Jer
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Indeed Sepp, those are excellent points. But I do have to agree with Robert as well; what if Google went down just as you were attempting to load up an essay you had written in Google Docs?

I do have to say, I've started using Google Docs quite a bit and I love it. I've used it to write stories, a couple of drafts for reports/essays (though my teacher prefers handwritten documents), and even for a few video scripts. It's pretty awesome!

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Posted: 20th Nov 2009 22:53 Edited at: 20th Nov 2009 23:00
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Thank you.

But that is why all of my data is stored on my laptop's hard drive, my external drive and the internet (Google) It'd just mean when I've got spare time, I can take everything from Google docs and save it to a folder in Windows and onto my external.

Back-up is good, but multiple back-ups are better. This will add another scenario. During my A-Levels, I had coursework on my PC...my PC failed and Windows needed a re-intall to fix it. No data could be accessed and was thus deleted. But I'm a cautious person, so my coursework was on my USB...plugged in and that failed...the data was corrupted and the USB needed to be reformatted. However, Google actually saved the day - Google docs didn't exist then, but Google Drive did and sat on my Google drive was my coursework.


But I'd argue that it's more likely that your computer will fail than it is for Google to. Google most likely has a good number of servers and as an organisation maintain those servers so that they run fluently and don't fail and they no doubt do back-ups on a regular basis. Some businesses do it daily and I think it would be one of Google's interests to do so. The only way I see Google really failing is through loss of business and at the moment they practically monopolize the internet market...Yahoo is popular, it'd probably take the same to get rid of Google to get rid of Microsoft. A business to steal their place in the market or for users to see interest in an alternative market.


In my history of computers:

My computers (total) have lead to loss of important data ~10 times.
Services by Google has lead to loss of important data 0 times.
Out of those times I have backed-up sensibly: ~4times.

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Posted: 20th Nov 2009 23:06 Edited at: 20th Nov 2009 23:06
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So your going to back up all your files from Google OS to a windows os? So really Google OS is equal to a flash drive then..or equal to an online backup site.
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Posted: 20th Nov 2009 23:29 Edited at: 20th Nov 2009 23:37
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Not quite.

I would be able to boot up a LOT more quickly.
The interface would be less cluttered, because ONLY my web services are there (Most likely GMail, Wave, Grooveshark, Google Docs, Calender and YouTube). So folders are less cluttered too.
I would be extending my usage of currently existing Google services. (And other web services)
It'd be more convenient...perhaps things would get done.

Normally I would boot in Win7, but if I'm only doing writing, I'm in a lecture, am emailing, collaborating or anything that can be done only using web services. I'd be using Chrome OS. If it's a day when I'm only using Chrome OS, it will mean I put a little time in the evening to back everything up...or knowing me - put it off until I can be bothered or am using Win7 anyway.


On another note...I wouldn't get distracted by video games I have installed on my PC. Almost like last night's workshop - a friend said, "I'm probably going to play WoW instead," which turned into him getting scolded, and people naming a game they would be playing instead.

It may seem like a trivial market to some...but it'd be very convenient to use I think...I mean, if it existed, I'd use for it. It's probably not something I'd want enough to pay for unless I had an impulse to do so, so I'm assuming as it's Google, it'd be free.



[edit]

I'll add that you can start Acer Arcade Delux as an OS (it did for me) - well it's not an OS of it's own...it's just Windows XP modified to only boot Acer Arcade Deluxe. It's Acer's version of Windows Media Centre...it's a nice speedy secondary OS for watching a DVD or listening to music. Though I don't know how to boot in it and I've only done it accidentally before.

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This sounds absolutely horrible. What could you even do at all with a OS that has zero personal files?! Tell me this is not meant to be a serious OS and maybe like a portable one

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Posted: 20th Nov 2009 23:46 Edited at: 20th Nov 2009 23:49
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There has got to be a niche for this, but at the moment I just can't think of it. Obviously, it's not for people like us who use a virtual plethora of software titles and store gigs of media, but it may work for that person who uses a computer for web browsing and email on the go.

You may not realize this but many people, especially business people, only use computers for documents and communications. Crazy, I know. Google also has many apps, including Office, that are available online. As their page says, "More than two million businesses run Google apps."

Google is not stupid. They must know something we don't.

Or not.

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Posted: 20th Nov 2009 23:56 Edited at: 20th Nov 2009 23:58
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Quote: " Tell me this is not meant to be a serious OS and maybe like a portable one"


Nope. A secondary one or one for use with Netbooks. I'm sure google knows they can't compete with the top 3. Google is most likely looking into a niche in the OS market.

Quote: "There has got to be a niche for this, but at the moment I just can't think of it"


From my previous posts - I think I just figure it out as a niche market that nobody has thought to appeal to it. The advantages seem trivial, but I think they'd be very convenient and I for one would use it and regularly. It's probably a niche in the market that probably could appeal to quite a few people.

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Robert F
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Quote: "Google is not stupid. They must know something we don't.

Or not."


Usually yes, but this time I don't think they do. I really dont even see buisness' using this. This think can probably hardly run a program. On the bright side, it wont take as many resources and it will be cheap to run :p
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Quote: "You may not realize this but many people, especially business people, only use computers for documents and communications. Crazy, I know."


Which is why Google is pushing this towards the internet-only crowd...


Okay, after reading a bit, I think I've decided that it would be decent to have this on a netbook. Since the only thing I'd ever use a netbook for is internet-related stuff (email & forums), it'd pretty much be perfect on those little devices.

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The biggest advantage may be that the cost of netbooks will drop dramatically. (Maybe?) The operating system accounts for up to $100.00 of the system cost in many cases. We'll just have to wait and see what kind of a deal is made with the manufacturers.

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Quote: "Seriously I could make this whole os in vb.net."


Try it. You can't make an OS in VB.NET.

Quote: "what if Google went down just as you were attempting to load up an essay you had written in Google Docs?"


And your hard drive could crash just before your midterm paper is due. What's the difference?

Google is hardly going anywhere at the moment. They are already charging for extra GMail and Google Apps space. I can see this catching on.


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To be honest i can see some uses for this, especially for people new to PC's. They can have all of the important stuff right infront of them, and making it easier to get used to, as well as older people, i have helped someone before who is quite old and doesn't understand all of the "complex" things you need to do to work the internet etc. And this will make life easier for them.

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I hated the open beta for Google's OS. It was dull, incomplete (being as it was a beta), and looked like a more modified version of Chrome. Google needs to get some new looks and layouts.

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That's a point Asteric - I know a few technophobes who just go insane with computers. Computers are before some people's time.

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Quote: "Quote: "Seriously I could make this whole os in vb.net."

Try it. You can't make an OS in VB.NET."


LOLOTI (laugh-out-loud on the inside)!

I once tried to re-create a basic OS in DarkBASIC...I at least got the graphics down (just a bunch of 2D boxes placed into subroutines to act like a start menu and such). I barely understood programming at the time (and still struggle to learn a bit), but I quickly learned that BASIC was NOT the language to use to try and re-create an OS.

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And of course...it was only a simulation of an OS...Dark Basic can't make OS's either. It requires one to function, as do all of its creations, you can't make something separate from DBP that can be booted without an operating system. Real OS's are perhaps a lot more difficult and there's an awful lot you need to consider. Interface is only a small part of it. Heck OS's didn't used to have a GUI and everything was performed via console.

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I have a question. If you wanted to open a document, would you have to re download it just to open it?
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That just looks horrible. I can see the advantages as Seppuku explains them, but really I just don't like the idea. Might be the old-fashioned, change-averse part of me, but... just no...

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Quote: "I have a question. If you wanted to open a document, would you have to re download it just to open it?"


I imagine it'd be Google Documents, which is a browser based alternative to MSOffice. You can think of it as like editing a forum post. So you're not downloading a file, though you're temporarily downloading the page.

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I think I'm gonna side with Sep here. This is a great idea! Not as a primary device but a secondary device. It's for netbooks. Remember this! Let's face it. We're a geeky bunch. We use our computers for everything. The majority of the planet uses their computer solely for Youtube and Twitter. Most of my friends listen to music collections they build from playlist.com, Pandora, or Last.FM. If these netbooks have DVD players I could probably easily sell these things to most of my friends. I'd want one myself for sure. This is a wonderful idea to simplify the lives of 90% of computer users.

That being said, on paper it's wonderful. We'll see when it's all done, but if anyone can do it Google can.

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Woohoo! I have somebody on my side. I know some geeks with a PC, a laptop and a Netbook. I've noticed they're used for different purposes.

Desktop - main hardwork and music output.
Laptop - portable entertainment...usually just through-out the house
Netbook - portable internet, lecture notes, writing, easy to carry.


See...my laptop is all 3...except light to carry. The reason being money, I want a desktop and a netbook. I feel a lot more comfortable programming on a desktop.

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I think this is a great idea. As they said, it's aimed towards netbooks. It has no sensible desktop applicability right now. And, since it's so lightweight, you could easily take a grossly outdated, cheap laptop, and have a convenient, quick loading browser. Naturally, since every file is hosted remotely, you don't want to put any sensitive material on it(or at least I wouldn't), but it definitely has its uses. The only thing that is giving me a bit of doubt is this:

Quote: "• You'll have to buy a Chrome OS device: You might be able to hack this thing onto your current machine, but you won't just be able to install it to replace Windows, or opt for it on your next laptop, for example. You'll have to buy hardware that Google approved, either component by component, or in a whole package. They're already working on reference designs."


Which basically eliminates exactly what I find appealing about the idea. If you have to buy a machine that was google approved, then you have less option to go for something cheap that can run it.

[Edit]Also, on the side of all of your apps/files/whatnot being remotely hosted rather than on the machine, I'm hoping that google has a way to provide you access to your files from a non-Chrome OS computer, and a way to place files from a non-Chrome OS to be accessible by your Chrome OS.


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I know I can't make an OS in vb.net, that wasn't the point... I meant I could make an app that does the same thing not an OS.

I just still don't understand the point. I get that some people only use their computers for internet and other web stuff, but what if one day you did want to open up another file...? You would have to install Windows just to do it.

I also want to see how you will install drivers...
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Quote: "I also want to see how you will install drivers... "


You won't.
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There will have to be some sort of driver installation, even if it means Google automatically looks at your hardware IDs and picks the right ones for you. How could you function without advanced drivers when you wanted to say, play a Unity web game?

I'm on Seppuku's side as well. I personally find no use for this at all, because I have a laptop that's portable enough but also has the gnads for gaming and music production. In fact right now I should be finishing a cue instead of lurking

But, my roommates and friends here at college have little to no use for a desktop-oriented operating system. They are the kind of people that awkwardly peppy Google guy talks about in the video who will only have a web browser, music player, and maybe a Word doc open 95% of the time. For guys like us, who move too much data around, or possibly data that we don't want anywhere near the internet for online file storage to be feasible will stick with our respective desktop OSes for the most part, but remember that we're probably in the minority.

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I don't see this as something i'll be using personally (any time soon), but for those the rely upon easy synchronization of their data. The yeah, maybe it's a solution...


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Quote: "And your hard drive could crash just before your midterm paper is due. What's the difference?"


The difference is Google will have your data on a RAID


I think the only people on this forum who think Chrome OS isn't a complete fail are those who have experience in an enterprise or corporate environment. Think about thin clients, I could definitely see a use for Chrome. Any what about netbooks? Most of those people only surf the net or do email. This OS isn't going to replace the average desktop, and I'm not entirely sure that's what Google is even trying to do.


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Am I the only person who rarely actually uses a netbook on the internet and mostly instead uses as a gaming console on the bus?

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Yes, most likely. Didn't even think a netbook had the power to run games, the thing doesn't even have a cd-rom.


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That's for certain. I've only spent a summer working at a software engineering internship, and I can already see how it would probably save companies a lot of money on maintenance and licensing costs. Heck, they even had us remotely log in to a Sun server to write and compile code, so code wasn't even stored on our desktops.

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All these posts about the security flaws with having the OS completely online-based aren't very educated. Read more into what Google is doing to protect your files and you'll see that BECAUSE the system is online and all of your files are stored with google, they have new methods for constantly checking if files have been tampered with at the lowest level. Look at their videos outlining their plans for making the system secure and you'll see they've thought of pretty much every problem that has been pointed out thus far in this thread.

I think its a great idea, obviously the biggest issue is you dont have a computer if you dont have an internet connection, but thats what dual booting is for and really, how long will it be until the world is shrouded in a wireless internet connection? Not too long I imagine.
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I think it is a decent idea. But the biggest problem that I see, and nobody has pointed this out yet is. The government. They will have complete access to all your files without you ever knowing about it.

I know if your not doing anything wrong you should have nothing to worry about, but how many times has government stepped on peoples rights? I know I don't have anything to hide and they can come in and inspect my pc if they want. At least I would know they are doing it, with this online os, I would never know.

Don't want to sound paranoid but I just want you all to consider that for a moment.
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The government would have to get a search warrant to look through your online documents, and for what reason would they need to see your Sonic the Hedgehog fan fiction?


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Oh jesus not the Government! Ahh! Panic!

Surely by the logic that they can 'have complete access to all your files without you ever knowing about it' the whole internet is a bad idea?

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Rubbish, flawed and completely utterly comprehensively pointless as a main OS. Useful as a second OS.

But I don't get how it's any more portable than anything else? If you go to school and want to log onto your Google OS, you won't be able to because it'll be running Windows.

It makes far more sense, to me, to make a mahoosively powerful flash/java/[maybe a new web engine] webpage, which does all this crap, but from any existing OS in a browser ....

.... ah, but that wouldn't be able to steal OS market share.

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How's this any different than having your files on a home computer running Windows? Unless you've set up some sort of remote access on your home PC (and it's turned on) then you're still not going to access anything.


Hopefully, Google doesn't accidentally get user data mixed up and swap account access around like they did with Gmail this past summer.


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I know if your not doing anything wrong you should have nothing to worry about, but how many times has government stepped on peoples rights? I know I don't have anything to hide and they can come in and inspect my pc if they want. At least I would know they are doing it, with this online os, I would never know.

Don't want to sound paranoid but I just want you all to consider that for a moment. "


They could do that as easily as taking your computer now for investigation.


ChromeOS is not a terrible idea. In fact, I'm sure people will love it. I think this community is perhaps a little biased since you guys all probably play games and develop small games on your own. For just casual computer users who do nothing more than play music, surf the web, read email etc etc, it will not be completely worthless. It will be nearly pointless to you all (although I do believe that you would be able to find a use for it) as you all depend on the speed of your computer.
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This is true. If you use Windows at home, and your compo is off, you won't be able to access the files remotely. Similarly, if you use Google OS at home, but the remote computer uses Windows, you won't be able to connect to your Google OS. Agreed! But you can't justify the existence of a new OS by saying it'll be just as bad as what's there already.

It'll have to become a standard in order for it to work, or there'll have to be wide spread lightweight emulators ... or something!

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