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Posted: 22nd Nov 2009 13:44
Jaime Fox and Gerard Butler star in what I thought was actually a pretty good movie. Has anyone else seen it? I hadn't seen any previews before watching it but heard from others it was worth checking out, and after I have I now recommend it to anyone who hasn't seen it yet.

The basic synopsis is a guy(Butler) whose family is taken from him and the murderers get off easy due to a bargain made by his lawyer(Fox). So Butler takes the law into his own hands. I know this sounds like a pretty generic plot, but it's well done and has some nice twists.


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Posted: 22nd Nov 2009 14:05
I definatley wanted to see this one!

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Posted: 22nd Nov 2009 15:41
Anything with Leonidas in it is good. I thought it looked good, though I'll wait till it's out in the cheapo theater.


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Its being spammed on every add break -_-"

looked good to start with though

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Posted: 23rd Nov 2009 07:08 Edited at: 23rd Nov 2009 07:08
I was looking forward to this movie coming out, and then I just kind of lost interest. I guess I'll wait for this one to come out on DVD. It seems good and all, but not pay $8 to go see it with your GF good. Neither is New Moon.

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Posted: 23rd Nov 2009 07:39
Quote: "Neither is New Moon"

But taking a girl to go see twilight definitely has its advantages


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The twilight series has got to be the worst piece of unforgivable trash I've ever seen in my life. If you know any girls who like it, even a little, tell them they are dead to you, sever all ties with them and refuse to communicate with them in any way.
If you know any guys who like it, for the love of all that is sacred, please kill them as soon as possible. They are frighteningly unstable and are a danger to themselves and everyone around them.

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Posted: 23rd Nov 2009 13:16
Quote: "If you know any guys who like it, for the love of all that is sacred, please kill them as soon as possible. They are frighteningly unstable and are a danger to themselves and everyone around them.
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sure i dont LOVE the movies, but i absolutly adore the books, they are acually very good, definitly the best books ive ever read, the movie was a dissapointment though =P but it wasnt BAD either. are you one of the *iam so macho so i cant watch movies wich is about a guy and a vampire who falls in love becuz its so girly* guys?


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Posted: 23rd Nov 2009 13:51
Quote: "But taking a girl to go see twilight definitely has its advantages"


Yeah, she'll probably leave you because she wants somebody more like Edward, or w/e his name is

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Posted: 23rd Nov 2009 17:24
Quote: "iam so macho so i cant watch movies wich is about a guy and a vampire who falls in love becuz its so girly"

I don't think his problem's that he wants to appear macho. I think the problem's that it sounds rubbish (from what I've heard - not read the books, my little sisters like them though, and I haven't seen the films). I hold my hand up to being uninformed, but it just doesn't look very good from what I've seen.

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demons breath: the book is really unapreciated by most guys, as it is in fact a love story. I decided to give it a shot, and i thought like you, that it sounds like rubberish, but when i opened the book i couldnt close it again^^

The movie, is as said: not that good.


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Posted: 23rd Nov 2009 18:13 Edited at: 23rd Nov 2009 18:13
I really didn't mind Twilight. I'm a fan of vampire fiction, and to me it was like "my first vampire movie" material. It wasn't great, but it wasn't as bad as everyone says it is.


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Posted: 23rd Nov 2009 20:35
I wouldn't say I hate Twilight, I too like vampire stories. However, when my friend asked me to go see it with her she told me it was a vampire movie. Early into the movie I began to realize this wasn't a vampire flick at all, it was a chick flick that happened to have vampires in it.


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Posted: 23rd Nov 2009 21:36
Quote: "Early into the movie I began to realize this wasn't a vampire flick at all, it was a chick flick that happened to have vampires in it."


yeah, in the first twilight book/movie, it doesnt really happens much, neither in the 2nd, but the 3rd and 4rth (books) is totally awesome, it happens stuff all the time, although, its still, as u said: "chick flick" only a bit more action in it... still love twilight and i was miserable when i realized: i have read all the books!!


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Posted: 23rd Nov 2009 22:20 Edited at: 23rd Nov 2009 22:20
From a writer's perspective, the books were horribly written - a friend sat around reading from it and the flaws were clear. One of my female friends was able to concur with this as she's read all 3. Stephen King even made a remark about the poor writing.

So obviously...as an aspiring writer, it's a success story to make you cringe, as it makes you wonder why it was published. Stephenie Meyer found something really popular...essentially a teen vampire romance. Vampires have been cool on teenagers for quite a while - Buffy the Vampire slayer really hit it. Older teenagers might have gotten into Anne Rice, who also wrote a lot of romance into her vampire novels and I think Twilight just takes what's popular in those into the popular success it is today. In a way Meyer found a niche in the Vampire genre - now it sounds like I'm treating publishing as a business, but in essence...it is. Original, well written stories have difficulty selling because typically people like the familiar, hence Kitsch sells. Though it doesn't mean they can't be popular. I think Audrey Niffenegger's Time Traveler's Wife was a really good approach to the genre and quite original and well written.

You could probably have an argument on how the Vampire archetype is ruined with *sparkle, sparkle*...I suppose to me it seemed like a cop-out, but arguably, we disobey standards all of the time...generally it is considered a good thing in writing to be able to not worry about boundaries to a concept. I've brought meta-fiction to dystopia in my first draft of a novel.

The fan girls...well, I'm sure everybody has heard stories of psychotic fan girls...violent in some cases. Wouldn't want to run in one of them.

I wouldn't say that "Twilight is crap" as a lot of people like to say...at the end of the day how would you objectively measure a 'crap' story...I mean, something poorly written can have a captivating plot. Something cliched could be written in a fluent style that keeps you reading. I watched the film to give it a chance - I like vampires too, and well...despite some of the poor characterization, I could see why people enjoy it and why in particularly it attracts 16-year old girls...it's essentially a teenager's wet dream. I enjoyed the film a little bit, but it's not my thing. I actually prefer Anne Rice (well, early Anne Rice...Blood Canticle was uninteresting) like Interview With a Vampire.

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The movie must have done something right, it took third place for highest gross on a opening weekend...of all time.

I tried reading the books but I couldn't get into them, it just didn't catch me. Though I'm really picky when it comes to books.

The fans are obviously younglings with little patience and a lot of passion. To prove this, my friend is a manager at a local cinema, and they couldn't get any of the projectors working on any screen. The crowd almost started a riot, they were screaming calling out obscenities and some were trying to rally people into taking over the cinema. Luckily they were able to get them working, and the movie goers were able to see their movie 10mins later then everyone else.

Seriously...crazy...


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Posted: 24th Nov 2009 00:11
Quote: "I mean, something poorly written can have a captivating plot. "
It would drive me mad noticing all the mistakes and force me to shelve the book, or burn it...

Quote: "it's essentially a teenager's wet dream."



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Posted: 24th Nov 2009 00:20 Edited at: 24th Nov 2009 00:20
The fact that it topped Dark Knight makes me throw up in my mouth a little. Oh well, guess I'm just out of the fanboy/fangirl loop on this one. I just don't see it. I mean, I like vampires as much as any other guy, but there's... well, this pic sums it up:



Quote: "Early into the movie I began to realize this wasn't a vampire flick at all, it was a chick flick that happened to have vampires in it."


Lol! This is a very good point and probably explains why I feel differently than most about this movie. I was expecting some cool vampire stuff to happen, instead I got teenage vampire hormone drama. It annoys me on how this book/movie/sensation has empowered the emo crowd to be more... emo/goth. I mean, have you walked into a Hot Topic recently? I don't shop their, but I had to go in just because I couldn't believe how it became a Twilight merch store in a matter of weeks. Btw, not bashing the emo/goth crowd or anything, just saying. Plus, that was the crowd of people I hung out the most with during High school. Nice people, just strange fetishes.

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this... thread has moved away from the topic! NOOOEZ

seriously, i dont see how the book is bad written? imho, its one of the best written books i've read in a long long time. Also i dont understand why everyone keeps saying:
Quote: "it's essentially a teenager's wet dream"
or stuff like that, my mother, 39, loves the book as much as my friends and i doXD (many more adults aswell)
Quote: "You could probably have an argument on how the Vampire archetype is ruined with *sparkle, sparkle*... "

in my opinion, that was quiet cool, considering the *world setting* of the book, it really fit in. (although, when i first read it i was like: omg?) also, it explains why vampires cant be out daylight. i hated the sparkle sparkle movie thingy, as it was just simply looking... bad. booring and imho he didnt shine enough =P

those who didnt read the books and were dissappointed in the movies: i totally understand why, as if u look at the book, u can almost instantly understand its a romance/thriller, while if u look at the movie, it looks like an action/thriller^^ though, its more action in the movie than in the book.

sorry if this seems confusing. it is 00:36 am here... i SHOULD sleep now^^


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Posted: 24th Nov 2009 01:44 Edited at: 24th Nov 2009 01:46
Quote: "i absolutly adore the books"

An agent shall arrive at your location shortly. Do not resist. It is for your own good.
Quote: "are you one of the *iam so macho so i cant watch movies wich is about a guy and a vampire who falls in love becuz its so girly* guys?"

No. I am one of those "I can't stand the fact that read this crap without blowing their brains out" guys.
Honestly, aside from being just generally horrible, Twilight sends a HORRIBLE message to young women. It tells them to be ok with abusive relationships. It tells them that anything a guy wants you to do is ok as long as he's hot and sparkly. If he stalks you, threatens you, treats you like living garbage and any number of other unacceptable things, its ok as long as he's a pretty boy. The twilight series is going to be the cause of so, SO MANY messed up and troubled relationships in the future.

As for the writing, heres just a few arguments I've heard/read, and I can't say I disagree;

Quote: "Stephanie Meyer makes her writing way more complicated than it should be. I guess this was in an attempt to make her sound intelligent or something, but the end result is just pathetic. It's as though she used a thesaurus to replace every. single. word. "Small town" becomes "diminutive municipality", and it just sounds ridiculous. And don't think for a second that this sort of thing is just here-and-there - it's on nearly every single page.

The thing is you shouldn't use these words just for the sake of having a book full of big, pretty words. Big words don't make a book good - especially if the words are used in the wrong context all over the place. This practice is made especially horrible when you have a plot for a book aimed at teenagers, and you're using words that only a college graduate would be able to understand.

Every English teacher I've ever had always told me that good writing is written simply; using as little words as possible to say what needs to be said. Clearly, this is not a concept that Meyer has ever heard of."


Quote: "When it comes to the plot of the book, THERE IS NONE!

One sentence summary of the entire series: A girl falls in love with a vampire, who she winds up with together forever despite a few minor discrepancies.That's it, really. The rest is fluffy, boring filler. The "climax" takes place in the last two chapters of the books and has nothing to do with the preceding 400 pages. The "conflict" is resolved far too easily."


Quote: "Bella Swan is the main character of the series. Somehow, despite being horribly plain and clumsy (and not to mention a new student at her high school in a really small town), she manages to have several guys fawning all over her without any effort at all.

So, okay, she's a completely unrealistic character. How does that make her a poor role model, you ask?

Well, throughout the series, Bella becomes completely dependent on the "love of her life," a vampire. She is insecure and thrives on his attention When she finds out that he had been watching her sleep, she is delighted, rather than being understandably freaked out. By the end of book one, she is more than ready to give up any ambition to go to college or pursue a normal life, and strongly wishes to be a vampire so she can become immortal and spend the rest of her life with a boy she basically just met. And how doesStephanie Meyer continue this sickening teenage codependent affair? By making Bella continually more and more submissive to "her man" throughout the series. By the time she's eighteen, she's a pregnant vampire.

Great, awesome. Thanks for trying to inspire our youth, Stephanie Meyer."


Quote: "please stop comparing Twilight to the Harry Potter series? Really, I mean it. Harry Potter is far better than Twilight on so many levels, and that's not even just personal opinion. Nobody could deny the fact that the plot of theHarry Potter series is just so much more developed, and it's just an enjoyable read for all ages. Harry Potter has lasting impressions on everybody that reads it.. for YEARS! Twilight will be forgotten in the next two years, tops."


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Quote: "seriously, i dont see how the book is bad written? imho, its one of the best written books i've read in a long long time. Also i dont understand why everyone keeps saying:"

Again, from my limited experience, I'm not saying the books were bad in themselves (I mean look how popular those Dan Brown books were and they were horrifically written), but stylistically they don't grab me. Plot-wise, I hate things like Jane Austen, but her writing style is so good that it makes up for anything that I would otherwise consider a deficiency

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080503111543AAZAl0M
I don't mean to be crude, but I've read better written - *fictions of an adult nature*. And that stuff's not supposed to be intellectually stimulating. Nevertheless, on average, the writing style is still better developed. Again, I haven't read books in their entirety, and I'm not passing judgement on plot or characters or anything.

EDIT: On reflection, I've read better stories (lyrically speaking) by primary school children. Not supposed to be a confrontational fact, just a personal opinion.

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Quote: "Anything with Leonidas in it is good"

NOOOOO!!! You clearly haven't seen http://www.beowulfandgrendel.com/

It's actually SOOOO terrible it's one of the funniest movies I've ever seen.

I just saw Law Abiding Citizen the other day. It's a really good movie. Definitely worth seeing.

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Jenkins:
I have never seen that movie before, must rent it now.


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jenkins: that movie looks promising!


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Quote: "Quote: "please stop comparing Twilight to the Harry Potter series? Really, I mean it. Harry Potter is far better than Twilight on so many levels, and that's not even just personal opinion. Nobody could deny the fact that the plot of theHarry Potter series is just so much more developed, and it's just an enjoyable read for all ages. Harry Potter has lasting impressions on everybody that reads it.. for YEARS! Twilight will be forgotten in the next two years, tops.""
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Quote: "Quote: "Bella Swan is the main character of the series. Somehow, despite being horribly plain and clumsy (and not to mention a new student at her high school in a really small town), she manages to have several guys fawning all over her without any effort at all.

So, okay, she's a completely unrealistic character. How does that make her a poor role model, you ask?

Well, throughout the series, Bella becomes completely dependent on the "love of her life," a vampire. She is insecure and thrives on his attention When she finds out that he had been watching her sleep, she is delighted, rather than being understandably freaked out. By the end of book one, she is more than ready to give up any ambition to go to college or pursue a normal life, and strongly wishes to be a vampire so she can become immortal and spend the rest of her life with a boy she basically just met. And how doesStephanie Meyer continue this sickening teenage codependent affair? By making Bella continually more and more submissive to "her man" throughout the series. By the time she's eighteen, she's a pregnant vampire.

Great, awesome. Thanks for trying to inspire our youth, Stephanie Meyer.""
+1

Next people are going to start comparing twilight with an epic classic like Lord of the Rings! And that's just not on

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Quote: "Harry Potter has lasting impressions on everybody that reads it.. for YEARS!"

I think that's going a bit far. I quite liked the books. Can't say that it had a lasting impression on me though more so than a lot of other books.

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@ Omega Gamer - where did you get those quotes from?? EDIT - Squidoo? Just searched it. I watched New Moon the other night because I read the first three books and got a little bored. Didn't find them to be spectacular, didn't find them to be horrible. Mediocre is how I would describe them. Meyers did go to lengths to reinforce some of the imagery, like describing Bella as clumsy, and Edward as her "personal angel" at times. It got a little much, but it certainly has its appeal to teen girls. I know if I met a hot vampire chick who loved me, fawned over me, had lots of money, and was essentially immortal...I wouldn't be going to college

Funny thing is, a friend of mine said EXACTLY the same things you have quoted. I wager she has read the same stuff as you, and was spouting it to me. I am surprised at just how similar what she said, and what you posted, are.

Have you read the books yourself?

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Quote: "seriously, i dont see how the book is bad written? imho, its one of the best written books i've read in a long long time."


Either you've only read poorly written books or you're mixing up something you "enjoy" as being "well written". How well it is written doesn't reflect on its plot, style or story or how much you enjoy something. It's language, description, setting, characterization and many of those qualities. Having seen the movie, I can probably note a number of flaws in the characterization. But obviously for Stephanie Meyer it doesn't matter, after all it is a great success and a number have enjoyed it.

Sometimes flaws in something don't get in your way of enjoying it. So I wasn't pulling out these, "Oh Twilight is crap" arguments, perhaps read further on into my argument.

Quote: "Quote: "it's essentially a teenager's wet dream"
or stuff like that, my mother, 39, loves the book as much as my friends and i doXD (many more adults aswell)"


My comment was meant to lighten the mood of the thread. It's core demographic and appeal is to teenage girls...after all it is a teen romance. Nothing about my statement ought not to imply that no other audiences enjoy it - not more than many adults enjoy Spongebob Squarepants or the Harry Potter series.


Quote: "in my opinion, that was quiet cool, considering the *world setting* of the book, it really fit in. (although, when i first read it i was like: omg?) also, it explains why vampires cant be out daylight. i hated the sparkle sparkle movie thingy, as it was just simply looking... bad. booring and imho he didnt shine enough =P"


Of course, anybody is welcome to play on the vampire image. Nobody ought to tell a writer how they 'should' write, but every writer is open to criticisim.

"Sparkle" to me was too simple. Did she explain exactly why a vampire sparkles? What exactly about it makes it appealing? All it seems to be saying (to me at least) is that, "okay, vampires can't go out in sunlight...how can I allow him to sometimes be in the sunlight, yet at times not?" From the sounds of it, it could have been dealt with better.

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Quote: ""Sparkle" to me was too simple. Did she explain exactly why a vampire sparkles? What exactly about it makes it appealing? All it seems to be saying (to me at least) is that, "okay, vampires can't go out in sunlight...how can I allow him to sometimes be in the sunlight, yet at times not?" From the sounds of it, it could have been dealt with better."


now thats true =P some more explaination coul've been nice=P


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How did a thread about law abiding citizen turn into an argument about twilight?


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Lol, I believe that would be my fault. See 5th post.

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Posted: 25th Nov 2009 20:27 Edited at: 25th Nov 2009 20:29
Quote: "How did a thread about law abiding citizen turn into an argument about twilight?"

Not sure but I would like to through in my 2 cents now lol.

I don't think the people arguing about Twilight realize that the books and movies are for girls Teenage girls are the target audience of these books. Ya'll are guys, you're probably not going to like sparkling vampires. Like I said though, teenage girls are the target audience. That doesn't mean every guy and adult won't like it. I personally thought it was entertaining.

Quote: "okay, vampires can't go out in sunlight...how can I allow him to sometimes be in the sunlight, yet at times not?""

Technically they never do go in the sunlight. Apparently overcast weather is considered them being out of the sunlight

Quote: "No. I am one of those "I can't stand the fact that read this crap without blowing their brains out" guys.
Honestly, aside from being just generally horrible, Twilight sends a HORRIBLE message to young women. It tells them to be ok with abusive relationships. It tells them that anything a guy wants you to do is ok as long as he's hot and sparkly. If he stalks you, threatens you, treats you like living garbage and any number of other unacceptable things, its ok as long as he's a pretty boy. The twilight series is going to be the cause of so, SO MANY messed up and troubled relationships in the future."

Someone OBVIOUSLY hasn't read the books. Please don't even try and say you have because you haven't. No, no, no you haven't.

Quote: "Twilight will be forgotten in the next two years, top"

First of all there are still 2 more movies to be made. So that's another two years GUARANTEED it won't be forgotten. I give it 5 years. I don't know who I quoted that from but you clearly don't have a sister, or at least a sister that has read the books. For guys, twilight will be dead soon lol, it will last in girls.

Quote: "Bella Swan is the main character of the series. Somehow, despite being horribly plain and clumsy (and not to mention a new student at her high school in a really small town), she manages to have several guys fawning all over her without any effort at all."

Is that SERIOUSLY someone's argument? That's probably the worst argument I've ever heard. Let's see why that argument is awful.
Kristen Stewart plays Bella Swan, so Bella Swan is supposed to be hot. (Kristen Stewart has her ugly moments but generally she's really hot to most people of my age.) So said hot girl moves to a SMALL town. I want you to go to a small town and find a hot girl. You won't find many lol. So obviously every guy is going to be all over her regardless of the fact she acts like a clumsy depressed boring girl. I'm sure lots of us geeks prefer personality over looks, but in high school, you will NEVER find a person who isn't somewhat shallow.

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What did anyone expect from Twilight when they went to see it? It's a romantic something. I knew it when I watched it and it was ok. Did you expect horror or action? It's good at it's own genre, that I don't really mind about. That is my 2 cents.


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+1 to Jenkins post.

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I was expecting action. I knew it was a romance, but I was hoping they'd balance it a bit more.

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Any guy who likes twilight is wierd.
Meaning my friend shawn is TOTALLY wierd.
He loves twilight, it really sickens me however.

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Posted: 26th Nov 2009 07:11
I don't really think that somebody who only watches horror or action should go rating ´some drama movie. People who are into drama should do that. And a person who never watched action, shouldn't go rating an action movie. That was my 3rd cent!


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Posted: 26th Nov 2009 07:29
I think people would have a much easier time accepting Twilight as a good story if people weren't so gosh-darned obsessed with it. Friends of mine (who go to my church and don't exactly represent the Christian image as well as one would hope) were counting down the seconds until New Moon came out in their Facebook statuses. Literally every minute they'd be all "omg 5 hours and 23 minutes! SQUEE!" It drove me to the point of hiding them from my News Feed...and did I mention that one of those people are the girls' Sunday School teacher? I'm sure the parents appreciate that!

Yeah, I'd have a much easier time accepting Twilight as an okay series if people didn't obsess over it. That's my 2 cents and I'm sticking to them, because I don't have a bigger budget.

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Posted: 26th Nov 2009 16:25 Edited at: 26th Nov 2009 16:26
That's definitely one of the things that puts me off about twilight - stuff like this...


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Posted: 26th Nov 2009 21:44
demons breath: u dont wanna read a good book becuz a teenage girl/boy is totally obsessed with the main characters boyfriend?

ur doing it wrong. Do it again, do it right.


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Posted: 27th Nov 2009 06:10
Quote: "u dont wanna read a good book becuz a teenage girl/boy is totally obsessed with the main characters boyfriend?"

No it's just the whole how obsessed people seem to get by it thing which honestly unnerves me slightly. I know it's not a good enough reason to not read it, the book itself just doesn't interest me, I just don't think it'd be my kind of thing, any more than I'd read for example "It's OK I'm Wearing Really Big Knickers" or "Bridget Jones' Diary"

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I just saw New Moon last night with my girlfriend. It was our two year mark in dating and I thought I would suck it up and get some points in the process. And you know, I liked this movie a lot better than the first. Part of this is probably attributed to Edward not being in the majority of the movie. I can't stand his character most of the time. Every time he talks it's painstaking, dark, emotionally retarded and cheesy. The fight scene with him was awesome though. Overall, 8 out of 10.

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Posted: 2nd Dec 2009 17:28
i dont want to see this movie, but since ive read and loved the books, its more or less a *has to do* thing aight? ^^ first movie sucked, so i hope this one is better, but really, since more things happened in the first book, how can it be more action in the second movie than the first? XD (me friend told me it was).. anyway going to see it asap with me GF

Sid: not much detail on what u liked and disliked there =/ i hated the second book, because, Edward went away and 2/3 of the book is about how darn sad bella is, and how much she misses him and omg iam gonna DIE HE IS GONE however, the end was acually nice is the second one^^ drifting away too much on the book now.. again

could you tell me more about the movie? (without spoiling.. although, i already kno what is happening, but we have to be kind to the other ppls here^^)


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Posted: 3rd Dec 2009 17:37
After writing that, I did kind of think there wasn't a lot there lol. Wasn't going to bother unless someone asked.

The whole movie felt tense, it kept me in my seat. I'll put this in a code tag because of spoilers:



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Posted: 4th Dec 2009 01:26
Sid I read your code comments because I have no interest in Twilight, but you should watch Vampire Knight anime. That's awesome. It's better then Twilight, then again I haven't seen or read Twilight!

Oh well that's my opinion if you don't like it, lump it!

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Posted: 4th Dec 2009 09:17
DV: how can u say something is better than something u havent seen? also, how can you compare anime with movies? =P i dont see how..

though i want to see Vampire Knight^^


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Posted: 4th Dec 2009 16:40 Edited at: 4th Dec 2009 16:42
Quote: " how can u say something is better than something u havent seen?"

And I said,
Quote: "then again I haven't seen or read Twilight!"


Understand?

Vampire knight is awesome and so far it's probably the best Vampire film/series I've seen!

Quote: "also, how can you compare anime with movies?"

Uhh, there both essentially the same basic form of what makes the entertainment medium of film. One's just animated that's all! Same basic principles apply.


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I'll check it out, thanks for the suggestion. As for comparing anime's to movies... I don't know. I really like both, but they do seem to have their distinctions (beyond the obvious animated vs. real life thing). Anyway, that's a discussion for another day

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