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GamerDude
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Posted: 29th Dec 2009 05:43 Edited at: 29th Dec 2009 05:44
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I got this game for Christmas and was happy with it at first, but the more i played it the worse i felt about it.

-EMP and Jammer only affect enemy team: main thing is stuff like this should affect every player in the game, not just the opposition.

-No dedicated servers: this really annoys me. I can play a game for a short time before i get lagteleported outside of the map and fall to my death or lagteleported backwards. It really annoys me when i sneak up behind an enemy and go to knife them and they teleport away before i get the X on the screen. Then i get killed by that person who lagged away. With this auto-new-host crap, whenever a new host gets picked it just "has" to be me. If the game has 10 players it runs ok, 12 it will work for about 5mins before my router crashes, 18 it will lag out instantly and everyone will time out. My point is the auto-new-host thing should have a way to be disabled, especially for those with crap new connections and with lower end single core cpus and one-out international players. I have had too much experience with this annoying lag attack stuff that only I seem to experience. Whereas i can play CoD4 just fine with no lag at all, even in a 12 player server.

-SnD HC Ricochet: This gamemode annoys me, should be SnD HC without Ricochet, teammates run in front of each other for the fun of watching them die for "Friendly Fire". This should be set so they actually take damage shared between both instead of just the shooter.

-Bugs with weapon unlocks: I had a SCAR that i was trying to unlock the first attachment (the red dot), it went to 9/10 then it sat there for about 50 kills before it went up by 1 more. yes, i was using the scar for these 50 kills. Infact, thats the only weapon I use in combination with the Thumper.

-Lag makes me stuck: The lag problem sometimes causes me and others to be frozen in one spot unable to move or shoot until we die.

-Knife with X = no kill, WTF?!: this happens to me lots, i knife someone 3 times with Xs and they wont die, most times i knife someone with an X and then run away i get killed by that person. Why does this happen, the syncing system fails.

-No voting system: There have been some annoying players, such as JustCraig, or JustCraig's Granny who really annoy the crap out of everyone with nothing to stop them. When they were in my team they used riot shields to corner me (SnD gamemode) to let the enemy kill me, there should be a votekick system to get rid of newbies like this, it happens too much.

-Bugged "Cold Blooded" perk: I was playing in an SnD game with my Cold Blooded perk on, inside a house with noone around me. There was a missile from the enemy team who somehow aimed at me under a tree and killed me, for some reason i had a red box around me when the Cold Blooded perk should have removed it.

-Point-Blank headshot failed wtf?: I had an enemy in front of me like 1m away, i pulled out my scar and aimed at his head with the red dot, it came up with an X but he was still alive, so i shot again and he died but no headshot kill.

-Thumper VS Riot Shield: I had a thumper and 2 enemies with riot shields, i took out my thumper and unloaded both toobs onto them before being knifed. In killcam they didnt take any damage although the thumper hit them straight in front less than a metre away. Lag or something i dont know but it really annoys me during SnD.

i hope these get fixed it really annoys me when i get a 0-5 SnD game because of most of these bugs and/or newbies.

thanks

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Posted: 29th Dec 2009 08:50
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Is there any game you don't have a problem with?

Quote: "-EMP and Jammer only affect enemy team: main thing is stuff like this should affect every player in the game, not just the opposition.
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That doesn't really seem a bad thing to me, especially when EMP is rewarded after 15 kills.

Quote: "-SnD HC Ricochet: This gamemode annoys me, should be SnD HC without Ricochet, teammates run in front of each other for the fun of watching them die for "Friendly Fire". This should be set so they actually take damage shared between both instead of just the shooter."


Don't play it then.

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-Bugs with weapon unlocks: I had a SCAR that i was trying to unlock the first attachment (the red dot), it went to 9/10 then it sat there for about 50 kills before it went up by 1 more. yes, i was using the scar for these 50 kills. Infact, thats the only weapon I use in combination with the Thumper."


Umm... okay. You weren't playing any private matches, were you?

Quote: "-Lag makes me stuck: The lag problem sometimes causes me and others to be frozen in one spot unable to move or shoot until we die."


Well, guess what? That's generally what lag does.

Quote: "-Knife with X = no kill, WTF?!: this happens to me lots, i knife someone 3 times with Xs and they wont die, most times i knife someone with an X and then run away i get killed by that person. Why does this happen, the syncing system fails."


See above

Quote: "-No voting system: There have been some annoying players, such as JustCraig, or JustCraig's Granny who really annoy the crap out of everyone with nothing to stop them. When they were in my team they used riot shields to corner me (SnD gamemode) to let the enemy kill me, there should be a votekick system to get rid of newbies like this, it happens too much."


I agree, but I don't believe that someone would do such a thing unless you really tried to piss them off.

Quote: "-Bugged "Cold Blooded" perk: I was playing in an SnD game with my Cold Blooded perk on, inside a house with noone around me. There was a missile from the enemy team who somehow aimed at me under a tree and killed me, for some reason i had a red box around me when the Cold Blooded perk should have removed it."


Known bug: on his end the red box would not have shown up.

Quote: "-Point-Blank headshot failed wtf?: I had an enemy in front of me like 1m away, i pulled out my scar and aimed at his head with the red dot, it came up with an X but he was still alive, so i shot again and he died but no headshot kill."


Boo hoo. You missed out on 1 headshot? Doesn't seem like that big a deal to me.

Quote: "-Thumper VS Riot Shield: I had a thumper and 2 enemies with riot shields, i took out my thumper and unloaded both toobs onto them before being knifed. In killcam they didnt take any damage although the thumper hit them straight in front less than a metre away. Lag or something i dont know but it really annoys me during SnD."


Probably uing blast shield.

Quote: "i hope these get fixed it really annoys me when i get a 0-5 SnD game because of most of these bugs and/or newbies."


1: Most of these have been bugs since CoD4.
2: A fair few of them aren't bugs.
3: They definately won't get fixed, this is infinity ward.

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Posted: 29th Dec 2009 10:02
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-Bugs with weapon unlocks: I didnt play in private.
-No voting system: i just join servers and play. i try not to start stuff with anyone.
-Point-Blank headshot failed wtf?: my point is the game is bugged like no tomorrow. their sync system is very bugged
-Thumper VS Riot Shield: was glass riot shield
-Toasty Fresh: I appreciate the response but some of your responses were a little smart-alec. Please dont respond with additions you dont need to. Yes, i have problems with lots of games because it annoys me there have been numerous patches and very few bugs fixed. CoD4 was less buggy than this. I am hated by about 50 people now because of lag making me appear outside of the map or in mid air.

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Posted: 29th Dec 2009 10:17 Edited at: 29th Dec 2009 10:20
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GamerDude, all you do is whinge about games on this forum, so of course everyone's responses are going to be exasperated/'smart alec' - especially when plenty of these 'bugs' aren't bugs at all. I've never experienced any of the above apart from the lag, and i've played a *lot* of MW2.

The only gripe I have with all of MW2 is IWNet, and the fact that a lot of the time i'm in games which lag a hell of a lot. Happens about 10% of the time though, so it's not something which bothers me a lot.

Quote: "-Thumper VS Riot Shield: was glass riot shield"


Riot shields are NOT glass. Lmao. Riot shields can deflect anything, they're basically an impenetrable barrier. It sounds like it gives a massive advantage to the user, but they can be easily killed from behind, and they have no way of attacking apart from the melee that the shield offers, so really, it's perfectly balanced, albeit unrealistic.

Oh and the SCAR bug? 9/10 is the MASTERY achievement, that takes a while to unlock, since you have to unlock everything else first. To unlock the RDS, it's something like 50 or 60 kills, not 10. Learn to look at the correct achievement/challenge.

And a voting system would be extremely stupid, it would get abused to no end by idiotic kids.

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Quote: "-Point-Blank headshot failed wtf?: my point is the game is bugged like no tomorrow. their sync system is very bugged"


Sorry, but what do you mean by 'sync system'?

You also can't expect it to give you a headshot point just because you think you were aiming at his head. This will happen in just about any game. Even in a Halo game I might snipe someone perfectly in the head and the game will state otherwise.

Quote: "-Thumper VS Riot Shield: was glass riot shield"


No, I mean he was using the Blast Shield piece of equipment. It's common for people using shields to use blast shield as well to avoid semtex.

Quote: "-Toasty Fresh: I appreciate the response but some of your responses were a little smart-alec."


Well honestly, what can you expect? If you're gonna complain about a game, what's the point of complaining it to someone on a forum? Nothing's gonna get done posting it here. Go and complain to Robert Bowling's twitter (although he gets loads of complaints about everything related to the game, so even if he did read it nothing would get done, because Infinity Ward are incredibly lazy and don't listen to their fans).

Quote: "I am hated by about 50 people now because of lag making me appear outside of the map or in mid air.
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And why should you care? Here's a tip, not just to you in particular, but anyone who reads this: YOU SHOULD NOT BE OFFENDED BY ANYTHING ANYONE POSTS ON THE INTERNET EVER, mainly because anything incredibly offensive is posted by some degenerate who isn't a people person.

PS: You're probably hated because you're using the Thumper, being tubed isn't gonna make anyone happy.

Good luck

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What platform are you playing on? I play on PS3, and for the most part it's ok. I do not have the same problems with the game as you, although I do have my own. Some of them I've come to accept are just the nature of this type of game. All the perks, level ups etc work fine for me though.

My problems:
- I keep being signed out of PSN because of an error, which crashes the game. My network connection is fine, as the game is still running with all players shooting each other. So PSN must be crap for me, for some reason. I routinely have to go the the playstation menu and sign in again, mid game, in order for the game not to quit out (it does this when it senses you've disconnected from PSN).

- I do get some teleporting lag, but actually not very often.

- I can't get over the fact a knife is more powerful than a point blank range headshot with a sawn of shotgun. I think it was made this way for 'playability' but it's one of the things that destroys the illusion of realism. Run round a corner, fire shotgun at enemies head, but get cut across leg with a knife and die.

- Damage is ridiculous. Watch the winning kill killcam, and so often people are killed with 3 bullets to the ankle, or 2 to the elbow. I can't believe they haven't figured out a better way to handle this yet (i.e. use last stand when your legs are blown off). Again, I think this is the simple playability arcade approach, rather than realism.

- Heartbeat sensors are a terrible part of the game. What were they thinking? If you play a 1 vs 1 with a mate, and he has a heartbeat sensor and you don't, you absolutely cannot win! Terrible attachment, in terms of realism, and balancing. I use the Ninja perk on pretty much all of my classes, because HB sensors are awful.

Apart from those things, I'm mostly happy with the game. I'm finally at a stage where I know what play style and weapon load outs suit me. I've gone through the 2 kills 10 deaths stage, and am now normally in the top 1 or 2 on the leader board for my team, and often get the Highest Kill/Death ratio accolade. Hopefully I'll be pushing my Kill/Death ratio statistic above 1 soon.

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Quote: "-No dedicated servers: this really annoys me. I can play a game for a short time before i get lagteleported outside of the map and fall to my death or lagteleported backwards. It really annoys me when i sneak up behind an enemy and go to knife them and they teleport away before i get the X on the screen. Then i get killed by that person who lagged away. With this auto-new-host crap, whenever a new host gets picked it just "has" to be me. If the game has 10 players it runs ok, 12 it will work for about 5mins before my router crashes, 18 it will lag out instantly and everyone will time out. My point is the auto-new-host thing should have a way to be disabled, especially for those with crap new connections and with lower end single core cpus and one-out international players. I have had too much experience with this annoying lag attack stuff that only I seem to experience. Whereas i can play CoD4 just fine with no lag at all, even in a 12 player server."


Didn't see this one. When you mention CoD4, you must note that you will be playign on servers from your own country (well, if you have any common sense you would) and the computers running these servers have very fast internet and very fast processing. But with IWNet, it's choosing a player from the game and using their crappy dialup or whatever, and it's not coming from a fast service. That is why CoD4 is so lag-free.

But in essence, I do have to agree with you on the no dedis side of things. If there's one thing that sucks about the game, it's this, and IW totally raped it by using matchmaking instead.

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Well if it's buggy, yet still quite playable and you're running it on PC, then that's a good thing. I've stopped playing games on the PC that you can get on the console because they appear to come out buggier and buggier.

Chances are you'll end up with patches and I hope the developers are more reliable for patches - it took over a year for Bioware to release a proper patch for Mass Effect, well I haven't tested it yet, nor do I intend to. But otherwise I wouldn't know a way around these problems. If you can find a tech support forum for it, then there's a chance that people have work-arounds.

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The only real complaint that I have with IWNet, apart from the lag, is that it makes it hard for real tournaments and competitions. Generally, I'm a big competition player - but with MW2 there are little or no ladders/competitions to play in, simply because there aren't any dedicated servers.

Bullet damage I agree is unrealistic as well, which is generally why I play hardcore only. In a normal game, taking half a magazine to bring someone down just isn't right. Should be about 4 or 5 shots maximum.

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Quote: "Bullet damage I agree is unrealistic as well, which is generally why I play hardcore only. In a normal game, taking half a magazine to bring someone down just isn't right. Should be about 4 or 5 shots maximum."


It's still too near realistic for an enjoyable game IMHO, with a game that has as bad servers as these is that it's more-or-less a connection battle in most cases. That's very annoying for me. And don't get me started on the burst fire weapons. With stopping power they kill in one damn burst, it's just point and click and an unskilled player can seriously screw up a very skilled player with these weapons.

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Quote: "-EMP and Jammer only affect enemy team: main thing is stuff like this should affect every player in the game, not just the opposition."

What is the point of a kill streak reward making the game harder for you?

Quote: "-No dedicated servers: this really annoys me. I can play a game for a short time before i get lagteleported outside of the map and fall to my death or lagteleported backwards. It really annoys me when i sneak up behind an enemy and go to knife them and they teleport away before i get the X on the screen. Then i get killed by that person who lagged away. With this auto-new-host crap, whenever a new host gets picked it just "has" to be me. If the game has 10 players it runs ok, 12 it will work for about 5mins before my router crashes, 18 it will lag out instantly and everyone will time out. My point is the auto-new-host thing should have a way to be disabled, especially for those with crap new connections and with lower end single core cpus and one-out international players. I have had too much experience with this annoying lag attack stuff that only I seem to experience. Whereas i can play CoD4 just fine with no lag at all, even in a 12 player server."

This is presumably to reduce piracy as before you could simply set up a 'cracked' server and bypass all copy protection. It is annoying but you must see why they did so?

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Quote: "What is the point of a kill streak reward making the game harder for you?"


Yeah, giving those who are better a further advantage is so much better. Why don't you just write "YOU SUCK" across the screens of the losers and done with?

Quote: "This is presumably to reduce piracy as before you could simply set up a 'cracked' server and bypass all copy protection. It is annoying but you must see why they did so?"


*snorts* As if it accomplished anything. As per usual, the pirates get it better and the legit buyers are penalized. Don't know what I'm on about? Go look at the GameCopyWorld listing for MW2. There's private server patches and all sorts.

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Well its a kill streak REWARD.
And yes it didn't work out but it is better to try and fail than not try at all

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Quote: "Yeah, giving those who are better a further advantage is so much better. Why don't you just write "YOU SUCK" across the screens of the losers and done with?
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Sounds good. I'm tired of absolutely owning everyone then getting the finger from the game. It's rewarding bad players otherwise.

Quote: "And yes it didn't work out but it is better to try and fail than not try at all"


Do you have no idea how many people they pissed off by removing dedicated servers?

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Xbox servers are being hacked all over the place right now. First it was the no game end, where the likes of domination had no score limit, yeah thats pretty good since i ended with 406/238 then you get the no reloads unlimited ammo servers, where noob tubes are automatic blowem ups' and javelins become rapid fire artillery. Then the newest *feature* was the momentum gain, which speed had been and weight had been dropped to create alot of momentum gain= so impossible to control really.

Then thiers the model 1887's becasue of course a shotgun from that era will beat any other gun at medium range warfare.

of course there will be bugs, and faults that have been overlooked. Its just a matter of time till they patch them all up.

Ohh anyone on live will know the LE2 hackers, surprisingly i was playing in a hacked server with him. I thought they would have killed him by now.

So ehh is ehh its a fun game top play with friends, so am not really bothered other than the nazi zombies replacement is S.

Not so bad.


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Quote: "It's rewarding bad players otherwise."


It's making a level playing field. Clearly you've never played a game on the losing side. It's no fun at all. You get your ass kicked and then the bonuses come in and there's no point in playing because it was unlikely you were going to win at all and with bonuses weighing down on your head you're certainly not. Blood Gulch, from Halo, was a map in which the reds nearly always won CTF. They were a very similar colour to the surroundings and the blue base was in shadow making it hard to see players running for it. There was also a tunnel going around the back on the blue base but not on the red. Unbalanced game design is unbalanced game design. Quite often when I used to play Halo years back, if I was on blue I'd most often quit in the first ten minutes. There was no point. You'd stick out like a sore thumb against the orange and get pwnt over and over again. Rewards should help turn the tables, not crush the losers.

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All I can say is thank god they nerfed the model 1887's. Reduced range and damage. Mind you, before I went prestige, I used them for a while, and they were still overpowered, but much less than they used to be.

The patch that came out last week for PC and PS3 should have fixed all those issues with unlimited ammo - not sure if it's out for X360 yet.

EDIT: Killstreak rewards are definitely not *unfair* to the other team. Any helicopter/AC130/harrier can be shot down by someone on the ground, and EMP's do almost nothing. Airstrikes and predator missiles aren't anything that hangs around for ages either - one hit, maybe a few kills, then that's it, back to normal play.

Oh, and I looked at the Game Copy World page for MW2 - nothing about private servers at all. Just trainers and level/stat hacks. The move to go with IWNet certainly did prevent cracked servers from being set up, for the moment. Eventually though, they'll probably start popping up.

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GamerDude. Suck it up. Sometimes games aren't perfect.

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Quote: "Oh, and I looked at the Game Copy World page for MW2 - nothing about private servers at all. Just trainers and level/stat hacks. The move to go with IWNet certainly did prevent cracked servers from being set up, for the moment. Eventually though, they'll probably start popping up."


Damnit, I was on the COD2 page. There's so many COD games now it's like we're swimming in them.

I wonder how many people got COD2 instead of COD:MW2 for Christmas, incidentally?

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Quote: "With stopping power they kill in one damn burst, it's just point and click and an unskilled player can seriously screw up a very skilled player with these weapons."


If an 'unskilled player' has pointed at you and clicked, and killed you, how can you claim to be better than him? If he's camping, prone, with a heartbeat sensor, then yes, he will get you. Then go back and kill him when you respawn.

Just face it, if you keep getting killed by other people more than you kill them, you are rubbish.

I thought I was good at FPSs, but hadn't played one since BF2142. I then got owned on MW2 when I started. I learnt how to play the game, and now I own back. The only person I had to blame was myself. The game, apart from a few glitches here and there, is balanced, and if someone keep whipping you, you need to face the fact you are crap.

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Here's my complaint about MW2.

Team Tactical is my favourite game mode type on COD4 because it has a variety of different game modes and since there is only a max of 3 players on each team it means that you have a lot of control weather your team win or looses the game which makes it far more interesting also you get to learn more about your enemies since there is only a small amount of them . This makes the game quite interesting.

In MW2 they completely screwed up team tactical. They changed it so that there is now 4 players which means that there is less control over the game yourself. e.g if you have 2 crap players on cod4 you can still by yourself compensate for them, however in MW2 if you have 3 crap players and your a good player you will generally loose. The worst bit is though that they made it third person. Team tactical is suppose to tactical but in third person any one can see round a corner which really spoils it.

Anyway that's my complaint over.


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Agreed with Fallout 110%. It's extremely annoying when people complain about things like M203's and Thumpers - every weapon is balanced, with advantages and disadvantages.

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Yeah. I've heard people refer to Thumpers as 'noob tubes'. If you shoot at the ground near someones feet, you will kill them more easily than you will with an assault rifle. But if you miss, you're dead to rights. You only get once chance. Usually someone gets me with a thumper when I'm in a confined room, looking out a window. It's an easy kill for them yes, but I've since learned to keep moving after 1 or 2 kills from a window. Then I'm not there to thump.

Similarly, shotguns are guaranteed kills at point blank range. People winge about 'dual shotgun dudes' all the time, but at anything more than close range, you have them dead to rights too, cos they just wont be able to hit you.

I reckon you need to know your weapon, play accordingly, and have the right expectations. I really like the FAL, but it's harder to win a surprise encounter than it is with an automatic gun. So I have to play to avoid surprise encounters, so I move slow, and go round corners aimed when possible, and avoid close encounters as much as possible (or switch to shotties ).

I think it's just a game where you have to learn what suits your play style, and learn the subtleties of the different weapons to get the most out of it.

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Quote: "All I can say is thank god they nerfed the model 1887's. Reduced range and damage. Mind you, before I went prestige, I used them for a while, and they were still overpowered, but much less than they used to be."


Yeah but you have to remember, IW have no brains. So what that means is, the didn't change the akimbo 1887s with the FMJ attachment using bling, so now there are people running around sniping you with shotguns, but now they're running around and sniping you through walls. I cannot believe they did not think of that.

Quote: "It's making a level playing field. "


Rubbish. If the EMP did the effect to both sides, why would you want to use the damn thing? There's no point. It's like having your own helicopter attack you. You've gotten 15 kills out of skill and wit, and all you get rewarded with is something that makes both sides' radar screw up, and all of their electronics? That's just stupid.

Quote: "Just face it, if you keep getting killed by other people more than you kill them, you are rubbish. "


What? Because he's chosen to use what is practically a 1 hit kill gun, that makes me crap? No, it doesn't. If I am trying to level up a gun or something, like say I wanted to level up my ACR, and some guy comes around the corner with an M16, then if I instantly go prone to throw of his aim, and start firing at his torso, I guarantee you: I will get about two shots in before he just aims at me, ahoots me in the foot or elbow or something, and I will be dead by that time.

Seriously, can't they take the damn hint? EVERYBODY was whinging about the M16, and what do they do? They make three of them! Now there's the M16, the FAMAS, and the M93 Rafficka which all kill in one burst.

Quote: "Agreed with Fallout 110%. It's extremely annoying when people complain about things like M203's and Thumpers - every weapon is balanced, with advantages and disadvantages."


I don't complain about the odd person who uses tubes. That's fine. What I do complain about is people who make it their mission to go around with an M203, a Thumper and use scavenger, and just aggravate everyone. They get four grenades, and thanks to scavenger, they get more nades when they kills someone, which practically gives them infinite nades.

And no, not every single weapon is balanced - give me one disadvantage to the M16.

Quote: "Similarly, shotguns are guaranteed kills at point blank range. People winge about 'dual shotgun dudes' all the time, but at anything more than close range, you have them dead to rights too, cos they just wont be able to hit you.
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Um, nah, the thing is the range on the dual 1887s is just ridiculous, they'll rape any assault rifle or SMG.

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ok thanks for the responses i have learned that i suck at cod6, ill just ignore all my good games like 35-2 i had the other day on a good server, and play normally. I have learned that if i come here to ask for help it only makes it worse ^^.

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A lot of these are good arguments but the first one is not that would be really lame still I would have gotten the XBox 360 version.

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Heres the short end of these threads summed up.

Ive got a problem,
It seems i did too,
Well mines that i keep complaining about stuff but nothing happens!
Really?, well Ive got a problem with problems, no matter how much people complain about them it does nothing.
So why do they do it?
Exactly...

*walks away*

You cant really flaw it can you?

No offense intended, just summing up everything that has been said so far.


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Quote: "I have learned that if i come here to ask for help it only makes it worse ^^.
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You weren't asking for help. You were whining.

Can a mod please lock this, turning into a flamewar.

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Clearly you haven't even used them - what level are you?

I think it's fine to leave the thread open if we can have a decent discussion about the weapons and the balance of the game, there's no real flaming going on, especially now that GamerDude isn't here.

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Quote: "Clearly you haven't even used them - what level are you? "


I'm on level 51, and no, I haven't unlocked them, but I have used them before.

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I must admit, I've used them, and they're good, but I don't think they're that overpowered. They are better than SMGs or ARs at close range, and maybe even close-medium range, but anything longer than that, they're as useless as the other shotties. I generally watch the first few seconds of kill cams, and I don't recall ever being killed by 1887s over any sort of range.

I am actually more of a fan of dual rangers, or the Striker. I find the striker is suitable to be carried as a main weapon, because of the huge mag and quick fire rate. You just switch to the AR when you're out in the open. The dual rangers give you two instant point blank kills for really close range encounters.

Again, I think it comes down to play style. A lot of people charge around, Unreal Tournament/Quake style, and always have close range encounters. They consider, for example, the length of a plane fuselage in the Scrapyard level, a 'long range' encounter. They probably think it's unfair to have accurate shottie hits from that range. I consider that a short-medium length, and think it's reasonable to get shottied from there.

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ok im not playing this game for a LONG time now. I get called a hacker every server i goto because of my lag. I cant play for 5 ****in minutes without a massive voicespamabuse happening. Im never using this game until IWnet gets off their bums and decide to take in community suggestions, especially the non-dedi stuff. I do use the 1887s and they are very good, but it annoys me when i get up to someone and shoot both with Xs and the person doesent die. IWnet is BS without dedi IMO. For now im going back to CoD4 because i cant handle like 10 people in every server thinking i hack, its just unplayable without this. Maybe I should make a video and upload my gameplay so you see what I mean. Yea, ill do that. Mods please dont lock this yet ill make a video tomorrow and upload it. Ill put the link in here. I dont think this is a flame war yet, not something too bad anyway.

Some stuff i get told:


give me 24 hours to upload a video and then you will see for yourselves what I get ingame, and the many bugs i die with.

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Suck it up people...


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Hmm...have you considered maybe it's your internet connection? Your router maybe?

Also, have you tried contacting tech support? There might be a work-around they can give you. They might be able to solve why it doesn't work on your system, whilst it works fine on 1000s of others.



I don't mean to sound as if I'm flaming, but I have noticed a pattern:

1. Find problem.
2. Post on TGC about said problem. Offer massive rants about the problem.
3. Make no or little attempt to solve said problem
4. Continue to posts rants.
5. Flame war breaks out
6. You eventually try to do something about it.

Essentially you approach the whole thing in a non-constructive manner, this is why 'flame war' usually breaks out and well...I hate seeing people flamed, because there's no need for it really, but some think that's the only way some people will listen.

You'll probably have to face the fact that not every game works with every hardware configuration, particularly with multiplatform games (this is why I have switched to console gaming, except for PC exclusives), you should try harder to get help - some companies have a 'troubleshooting' section on their website, others will allow you to contact them and others have a tech support forum. Seek these out. They exist for a reason.

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Virgin Sucks right now, thier under investigation since there not actually pumping out the connection and giving about 1/5 on average of the connection your buying.

So yeah quite sucky lol

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Oh and sepp, you articulated what i was trying to say in a hell of a better way lol.


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Quote: " Virgin Sucks right now, thier under investigation since there not actually pumping out the connection and giving about 1/5 on average of the connection your buying.

So yeah quite sucky lol

Stupid photobucket anit loading, removing pic till i can resize

Oh and sepp, you articulated what i was trying to say in a hell of a better way lol."


Crap we're moving to virgin in January :S, well they can't be worse then tiscali now that talk talk have taken over >>

Tbh gamer dude, if you don't like the game, don't play it, simple. Complaining here will achieve nothing. I'm sure we could all rant all day about a lot of games but it's not worth the effort.
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Yeah, it's your connection. I occasionally get some laggy games, but most of the time the host is abused via voice, he leaves, we get a new and better host, and continue the game.

Oh, and personally, I doubt people say that stuff. In hundreds of hours of game time, nobody has ever said that to anybody. Personally, the community (at least, the PC community) in MW2 are great. Never had any serious arguments, or people whinging. In fact, I played a game of HC HQ about an hour ago. Everyone was using tubes, and by the end of the game, most people were fed up with it. In the 50 sec intermission, everyone was able to discuss it, and agree not to use tubes/thumpers at all on the next map. It was epic to see everyone weigh in their opinion, and quickly come up with a solution.

Then again, I heard IWNet matches you with other gamers that are around your level... so i'm probably just with the high guys who are at least prestige level 1, and know the game well enough by now not to complain.

EDIT: I also go ape at people who rank hack. What level are you?

Easiest way - tell them to look at your Steam profile. They'll see that you have hundreds of hours and that you've actually worked for a high rank. I go nuts when I see a level 10 prestige with 10 hours on his account.

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I am on Telstra internet. They said the lag problem was with my modem. We ordered a telstra modem to replace it, from them. The lag wasnt fixed. (This modem has in inbuild router.) We called them again, and they said they would put us on a more stable connection in 4 hours, made it worse.

I have recorded a video of my gameplay (yea only like 10-30fps when fraps is recording.) and im not always the best player in these games. But you can clearly see the lag freezing that resumes to KillCam. And even when I model someone close up and i end up getting knifed.

I started a prestige and got to level 32 but somehow my stats got reset back to prestige 0 level 70.

EDIT: how do I reset my stats back to level 0? i have downloaded a stat-resetter but it only works temporarilly, while im ingame. When I relaunch the game im back to my original stats. How do I fix this? CoD6 sets my stats back automatically and theres no image option to reset them.

thanks

ill work on the video later.

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[rant]FFS.. now i cant even connect to IWFailNet. I start CoD6 and goto join a game, and all i get is 'Connecting to IWNet'. I have forwarded the ports that were listed on the Steam page for MW2, I have reset my modem and router, and I have tested it on a different net connection. I have recently had to delete my ClientRegestry.blob file about 5 times, I HAVE HAD IT WITH STEAM AND IWFAILNET. I cannot believe people use STEAM for selling their games, when you can get them locally and have warranty and proper support if something goes wrong. One or 2 problems is managable, but not being capable of playing a game just p*sses me off. I have about $300 worth of games on steam and i WANT TO BE ABLE TO PLAY THEM.

I have checked my VAC status and it says 'In good standing' so I am not banned (not that I would expect to be, I always play legit).
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***Sorry if this rant offends anyone, it is not intended to.***

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Yep... Good, perhaps you'll take the hint and stop playing this fail of a game

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If you bothered to search you'd see all of us are experiencing the problem, IWNet is down and has been for the last 5 hours or so. No biggie, just do something else. One day/night without MW2 won't kill you.

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Quote: "One day/night without MW2 won't kill you. "


If you saw my friends list on Xbox Live, I'm sure you would agree otherwise. Try taking it off them, they would beat you with sticks xD

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This game just isn't fun for me anymore. And I hold no grudge against the rank hackers either, because I couldn't be bothered to get to the last level in this fail of a game.

Won't be playing this game for a while. BC2's fun, I'll play that instead.

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Quote: "This game just isn't fun for me anymore. And I hold no grudge against the rank hackers either, because I couldn't be bothered to get to the last level in this fail of a game.

Won't be playing this game for a while. BC2's fun, I'll play that instead."

Same here. I enjoyed it for about a couple months, but then I realized that I was just getting frustrated and mad whenever I played. There were imbalances all over the place, it's like they threw in a bunch of new features without thinking about how they would affect the balance of the game. I wouldn't call it a fail of a game though, I enjoyed playing it at first and still do at times, but it just isn't fun to me anymore unless playing private match or split screen with friends where we can make our own fun with things like matches where we use knifing and throwing knives only.

I've played the BC2 demo for probably a total of 12+ hours this week, and it's quite fun. I don't like the amount of health they give people (and it's especially frustrating when it shows you the person's health after you kill them and they had something like 3% health left, I've even had a few that had 1% and 0% health). So if you run into more than 2 enemies in a group, you are screwed because you'll spend 5 seconds and an entire clip killing each one. Thankfully there will be hardcore modes in the full game.

My ignorant MW2 fanboy roommates who watch me play the demo say the "graphics suck compared to MW2, and it takes forever to kill people", but they don't take into account that BC2 has maps 10x larger than MW2, plus vehicles and dynamic physics, which just make it a more fun game to me. Sniping is lots of fun with the bullet drop and leading moving targets (although the fact that a clear shot to the lower chin or neck doesn't kill in one shot annoys me, another reason I'm looking forward to hardcore), especially when you get those rare awesome shots (once I managed to get a headshot on a guy while he was driving an ATV, causing him to fly off and ATV to keep going).


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They think the graphics are garbo? They're almost freaking Crysis-material graphics lol. MW2 never had especially great graphics either.

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Quote: "They think the graphics are garbo? They're almost freaking Crysis-material graphics lol. MW2 never had especially great graphics either.
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Yeah, they aren't bad at all. I think it's that MW2 has more shaders and is more detailed with better lighting (which BC2 lacks quite a bit, especially indoors). And there is a pretty noticeable LOD change with trees if you zoom in with your sniper rifles, any trees further than about 50 meters away are clearly just textured plains (until you shoot it down). I think they're perfectly fine graphics though, especially when you consider the massive processing power that all those physics, the massive maps, and amazing sound engine must take.


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Don't play the game if you hate it mate...

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Yeah. MW2 is fun, but I got bored of it quickly.

Never played BC2. Is it for Ps3?

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I am looking forward to getting BC2 when it is released here in Aus, I will probably play that more than I play MW2. People literally hate me now anyway because they think i hack, I just pay attention to details like shadows, gunfire (red dots on map in ESC), and guns sticking out of walls. But it shuts them up when they see some people who actually hack (guess! they are all little 12 year olds! no joke they use their mics and complain about everything) join the game. This is probably the most annoying part of the game. There are also things like spawnkillers, using toobs to shoot the spawn area. One of my friends that I used to play with alot got banned by VAC in a game with me, and hes very annoyed because he says he used a mod to lower his rank to 0 again, and steam claimed all his games.

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