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Storm4
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I'm making a war movie for a compatition and I need help with the effects. How can I add explosions and such into my video. I'm using Vegas 9 Pro. Any ideas welcome

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Drew Cameron
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www.detonationfilms.com

Only real way to do it, and you won't find cheaper material. They have some free clips.

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Quote: "and you won't find cheaper material."

You can though.
Print this out:

Hold it in front of the camera when you want an explosion.

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Drew Cameron
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Considering there are free explosion effects on the site, I could say those are cheaper than the cost of a piece of paper and ink....

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Blender has some nifty particle effects you could use. And if you use Voodoo are another motion tracker program you can easily implement them and they'll look as real as no money can buy.


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Storm4
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Ok thanks for the explosions site. I want my movie to be cel-shaded, having a simlar look to the game Borderlands. I think it will make the movie cooler. How would I go about doing this?

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Posted: 20th Jan 2010 03:56
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See: eternal life + patience.

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Sweet, it's perfect. All right, one if the scenes I'm going to be filming is a car chase through a narrow street. One of the trucks needs to explode, flip, and land in a house, completely destroying both objects. How would I go about doing this?

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Posted: 20th Jan 2010 04:35 Edited at: 20th Jan 2010 04:43
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Ummm....really?

Do what I did a few years ago: buy books, do research, start out small, and don't try to make Hollywood-quality special effects in your first video because you'll be sorely disappointed.

However, you might have luck with asking a relative if they have a truck you can blow up, and hope to God that it does the flip you need. Other than that, you're pretty much out of luck unless you're good at modeling in 3D, texturing, and animating.

EDIT:

After re-reading your post, you're definitely going to have to opt for 3D modeling and animation. You definitely can't make a house look like it got blow'd up, unless you somehow have the power to get permission to blow one up. It seems you're getting way ahead of yourself here. You definitely need to start out smaller and not attempt to make Hollywood-quality effects. Sorry, but it's the truth.

Buy books, do research, join forums dedicated to this sort of thing, and perhaps take a course in video stuff at your school and don't be afraid to ask the teacher questions. Chances are they'll be more than happy to help out in any way they can.


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Drew Cameron
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Posted: 20th Jan 2010 13:07
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1) Build a miniature house and blow it up?
2) Animation. Don't go round the world to get to the house next door. 3D will looks bad unless you are top of your game: there's nothing wrong with getting down and dirty and doing some 2D animation on some 'stills' of a house getting blown up. Comp in some footage of flames coming out of windows, that kind of thing, maybe add in some details like splints, then once you've done the whole shot cover up your tracks with a bit of temporary brightness and good sound?

If you go to town with those clips from detonationfilms.com you can make pretty much anything out of anything.

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Quote: "1) Build a miniature house and blow it up?"


Gah! Why didn't I think of that?

Yes, that would be a great solution to your problem. You could also build a mini truck and control it to make it crash into the house. If done properly, no one will ever know that it was a model.


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NEVER use Detonation Film's material. It's pure crap. I used to make videos all the time, and I have quite a bit of experience in using Adobe After Effects, but I prefer to use Vegas because it's much easier and user-friendly.

Depending on what you need help with, I can help you. However, note that CGI is a bit difficult at times, especially when you have to apply motion-tracking if your camera is moving.

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I would recommend home made pyrotechnics.

- French bangers
- Petrol bombs
- Flour bombs
- Polystyrene napalm

All completely safe and highly recommended.

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Drew Cameron
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Quote: "NEVER use Detonation Film's material. It's pure crap. I used to make videos all the time, and I have quite a bit of experience in using Adobe After Effects, but I prefer to use Vegas because it's much easier and user-friendly."


With all due respect Crispex, the effects are good enough to have been used in television, feature films and games. I have bought at least 50 clips from them and used in all kinds of projects. Once you know how to make a good composite, they are unbeatable. Please elaborate.

And in what world is any kind of calculated explosion going to look more realistic than actual footage of an explosion?

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