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Geek Culture / Photoshop CS5 Technologies

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AaronG
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Posted: 9th Feb 2010 06:23
Wow...just saw this video. Gotta pick this up when it's released.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgKjs8ZjQNg&feature=related#

charger bandit
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Posted: 9th Feb 2010 15:03
Its just amazing,morphs the image automatically.No more hand copy and pasting and stuff Yay.

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lazerus
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Posted: 9th Feb 2010 16:01 Edited at: 9th Feb 2010 16:02
Wow...

Surely Technology isnt that good?

Ohh The last image he used was from venice, I know since i used it a while back for a art unit. Just a, in case you were wondering lol.

Cs4 cost me an arm an a leg, wonder whats the price tag is gonna be?

NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 9th Feb 2010 16:16
Pretty good stuff, though I'd be more impressed if the smudge tool didn't take a decade or two to do a few hundred pixels of smudge. If it really does work this well and they aren't just picking the 20 that worked best from 150 then it really is mindblowing. I'd rather they made the Adobe Suite more consistent in functionality and usable on a remote user account on either Mac or Windows though personally as right now it freezes every 10-20 seconds unless you're logged in locally. (CS2/CS3/CS4)

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AaronG
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Posted: 9th Feb 2010 17:30
Yeah everything has a "content aware" capability that will make workflow MUCH easier.

Oolite
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Posted: 9th Feb 2010 17:40
Looks like an update worth buying, cs4 was a bit of a let down so I didn't bother upgrading, but then again i've only fiddled with the 3d capabilities a little.

Quote: "Ohh The last image he used was from venice, I know since i used it a while back for a art unit. Just a, in case you were wondering lol."

I know because I stayed about 100 feet down the road...er, river from that very building. We had to drive...Er, boat, past it each morning to get to San Marco square. Can't wait to go back again this year.

lazerus
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Posted: 9th Feb 2010 18:08
Lucky barstool, ive always wanted to go to venice, Is it what they make it out to be?

NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 9th Feb 2010 18:13 Edited at: 9th Feb 2010 18:13
When I went, it was gray, smelly, humid, cramped, overcrowded but at the same time kind of beautiful. Probably something in that pizza wrap.

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RUCCUS
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Posted: 10th Feb 2010 01:52
Keep in mind a few of those demonstrations had notes in the top right saying they were sped up at 5X the actual speed, including the building re-shaping parts. I saw a video showing this stuff in SIGRAPH, just completely forgot about it .

Really cool though.
AaronG
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Posted: 10th Feb 2010 02:23
This is true, haha. But hey, even if it's slow that can't be TOO bad on a 6gb RAM machine.

JoelJ
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Posted: 10th Feb 2010 06:03
Quote: "This is true, haha. But hey, even if it's slow that can't be TOO bad on a 6gb RAM machine.
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because it's all about ram...

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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 10th Feb 2010 10:32
It is with Adobe...

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Van B
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Posted: 10th Feb 2010 11:30
Isn't all that the job of the graphic artist?

I mean, if anyone can do this sort of thing, then what next for poor old artists - before long that'll be a job that any monkey can do.

Personally, I quite like repairing images, like I did a load of photo retouches for a friend who's grandpa had died. It's actually pretty relaxing to take a broken image and make it look as good as it can, to then pass that onto someone who appreciates it. CS5 seems to encourage even more lazyness. I think I'll stick with PSP9 - I got CS4 and have barely used it, I'm not a huge fan of PS since CS2 to be honest.


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Posted: 10th Feb 2010 11:49
Looks impressive.

Also, all bar Flash, I quite like Adobe products. There. I said it.

Considering Flash is technology by Macromedia and Adobe just bought them over, it could well be just the same old staff with the same old technology and same old problems. Either way, flash needs an overhaul or GTFO.

Ram issues, PS is aimed at professionals who'll likely have more RAM. Though I've not noticed any issues of ram with CS2 on my Mum's eMac. I believe it has 512mb RAM. She uses it for her freelance illustration and swears by it.

I guess Nex doesn't get much luck. PS doesn't like him, Venice doesn't like him, his internet connection doesn't like him. Personally, I'd recommend cookies, they solve everything. I've told several conflicting governments of my "cookies solve everything" theory with the research and experiments attached to it and they simply ignore me. Thing how much peace there would be on earth if people listened to my cookie-eating theory.


Anyway, also from Adobe, I quite like their Acrobat.com service - at least I've found it a lot more comfortable to use than any other word processor. Whilst it is lacking in a few features, for example, footnotes. But those are things I can add in Open Office afterwards. Quite effective considering it's flash and it isn't demanding on my system resources and runs very smoothly.

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Posted: 10th Feb 2010 18:13 Edited at: 10th Feb 2010 18:16
Quote: "Lucky barstool, ive always wanted to go to venice, Is it what they make it out to be?"

More, i love it there.
Quote: "When I went, it was gray, smelly, humid, cramped, overcrowded but at the same time kind of beautiful"

I've never had the same experience. People were warning me about the smell before i went but i never noticed anything, sure you could smell the water but it wasn't putrid. I just love the people, architecture and history of Italy in general though so i'm a little bit biased.

On PS5, i can totally understand where you're coming from Van, but its a good move on Adobe's part. Making it more user friendly will surely attract new customers. Its just a shame that us who have developed their skills over the years could be replaced by someone who knows how to use a few new simple tools. It's definately aimed at a few people on here, who would rather make model/texture requests than do it themselves. Now they get to create something without any effort, something i don't see any satisfaction in doing.

Quote: "Either way, flash needs an overhaul or GTFO."

It did, in the form of AS3, everyone i've talked to that has made the switch hasn't regretted it.

RUCCUS
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Posted: 10th Feb 2010 18:41
I have a feeling there's going to be a new meme around for PS junkies trashing people that use these features. "Pff... real photoshoppers do it by hand, you're such a noob". Dont get me wrong, I agree with Jeku, this stuff is getting a little too easy, I guess its just going to raise the bar that much more.
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Posted: 11th Feb 2010 07:00
Quote: "Either way, flash needs an overhaul or GTFO."


In what ways? Use examples, please.


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bond1
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Posted: 11th Feb 2010 07:32
Dang that's crazy! I'm still using CS2, but this sure looks like a good reason to finally upgrade!

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AaronG
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Posted: 11th Feb 2010 16:11
I think this is a good thing. Some people like editing for family, friends, etc., sure. But when you have 15-20 clients lines up needing retouching on wedding photography, etc., you need speed to get things done. Plus, this gives you a sooner deadline making the client happier.

gbark
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Posted: 11th Feb 2010 18:20 Edited at: 11th Feb 2010 18:22
Man some amazing looking stuff there!

I see Van B's point about the potential for putting artists out of business, but I don't think that will happen. As Ruccus said, I think all it will do is "raise the bar" and allow artists to do much more, in a much shorter time.

I gotta say though that the attitude of "*REAL* artists do it by hand, this is for noobs" is pretty ridiculous. Why shouldn't the machine handle the tedious bits, while the artists focuses on the creative bits? The less time the artists spend doing things like smudging pixels to fill in the space of an object they removed the scene, the more time they can spend working on other aspects of the picture to get it looking the way they want.

Plus, it kinda remains me of "PFFT automobiles?? Real men WALK wherever they want to get to!". Meanwhile those people spend all their time walking, while everyone else is able to spend their time perfecting their art. Not that walking is bad for leisure, of course, but if you got a job to do, why waste time doing things the hard way because it's how the "elite" do it?
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Posted: 11th Feb 2010 18:54 Edited at: 11th Feb 2010 18:56
but, don't real artists using graph paper ?

I wonder how graph paper companies went out of business with the end of 8bit era..

gbark
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Posted: 12th Feb 2010 03:22 Edited at: 12th Feb 2010 03:22
No, real artists use whatever's best for their project at hand.
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Posted: 12th Feb 2010 06:09
Anything that helps me "cheat" and get things done faster helps me make more money in the end.

If I can save time that means I can take on more projects that I normally would have to turn down.

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Kill3r7
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Posted: 12th Feb 2010 22:33
I think Photoshop is a exelent program, with CS4 I try to change a photo from Black and white to Color, with mask's and others

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