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Phaelax
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Posted: 6th Mar 2010 02:04
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If you need to view a site which heavily uses silverlight, use IE (no surprise really). If a website uses javascript, IE is the worst browser you could possibly use.

From the results, I think Chrome is the speed winner but at the obvious cost of memory. Opera has some interesting results, with Safari having disappointingly surprising scores.
Firefox appears to have better memory management, which admittedly surprised me.

If you want the short answer, Toms Hardware chose Chrome as the performance winner.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/firefox-chrome-opera,2558.html


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Satchmo
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Netscape navigator, hands down.

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HorhayGlizzle
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Opera 10.5 is literally the world's fastest browser and lowest memory user:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9156878/Opera_10.5_grabs_browser_speed_crown

If you want the world's worst browser, use IE8, that's fine. If you want the world's slowest UI and many crashes, you can use the notoriously inefficient Firefox. If you want Opera minus it's amazing customization and slower in every category, use Chrome.

If you want to use a slower browser that you can't customize, go ahead, use anything but Opera. It's fine. We won't care.
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Posted: 6th Mar 2010 17:38 Edited at: 6th Mar 2010 17:40
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Calling all fanboys!
Calling all fanboys!!!
We have a special on flame grilled browsers with mixed preconceptions on the side.
I repeat, calling all fanboys.

What are you guys talking about? Firefox beats everything.

At least you both backed your posts with evidence. Though this is really a peeing compettion since the data is contridictory. I could go find similar tests that favour firefox but then i had devine insperation.



Though it does look like a interesting debate on the browser wars front, it dosnt matter to me now since i have the big G on my side.




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Benjamin
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Thanks for the link. It's interesting to see how the browsers all compare in these tests. I use Opera personally, although Chrome certainly looks impressive, and it's amazing how quick the latest version starts up (though maybe this has something to do with the fact that it constantly has a process running anyway? ).
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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 6th Mar 2010 17:58
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Quote: "At least you both backed your posts with evidence. Though this is really a peeing compettion since the data is contridictory. I could go find similar tests that favour firefox but then i had devine insperation.
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Psst...we can see that you Googled 'Firefox', hence it is in bold. We all know Google Chrome appears at the top of the list.

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Everyone seems to skim over the fact that whilst FF is not the fastest, it's like that for a reason: Unlike the other browsers, FF's use of XUL and other XML based stuff means that it is inherently portable. Anywhere XUL can run, FF can most likely run/be ported to

All the other browsers are based on platform neutral stuff, but the fronted is ported specifically to each platform. I mean, Chrome for example - it not only has a non-portable UI/frontend, but the JS engine is (partially) assembly. So fine for x86, but go anywhere else and you need to port that as well.

So I see it like this: Chrome, Opera and Safari are certainly faster because FF is far more 'abstracted' away from what it's running on (and it can't use tricks like an assembly optimized JS engine, for example). But once machines reach a certain plateau in speed, FF's advantages as inherently portable (yet slightly slower) will shine far more brightly than the other browsers (in fact we're starting to glimpse this with the explosion of portable devices)

It's kind of like Mac OS X and Windows. OS X was initially slow: The Mach kernel and the concept of message passing (whilst incredibly flexible and elegant from a design PoV) is inherently slower. Whereas Windows has always been built for speed and is not as 'elegant' (from the 16 bit days, for example). But that difference is starting to erode. Now machines are fast enough to push along either solution at 'full pelt', the design advantages of OS X are being felt, whereas Windows' compromise of structural 'elegance' has started to cripple it.

I think we'll experience the same sea change for browsers once speed is no longer relevant. The fast ones will have ugly internal structures that fall apart. The initially slower ones will be portable and far more flexible.

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Posted: 6th Mar 2010 18:45 Edited at: 6th Mar 2010 18:45
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Lazerus, your proof has some holes, you're searching the wrong place.


I don't really have an alliance with any browser, floating between chrome and firefox the past couple of weeks. Chrome hasn't yet crashed on me which is probably why i'm inside it more.

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Well... I think this comic would explain that IE is in fact not the winner.




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A tear rolled my cheek


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Yodaman Jer
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Chrome is my favorite. I like its lightness in design as well as its speediness. Believe me, I tried every browser on my laptop; Chrome was the best one for me. Opera was a really close second though.


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Firefox has everything I need. It's faster than IE, has all the buttons I need without farting about unlike Chrome and I've actually heard of it unlike Opera.

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Yodaman Jer
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FireFox hates facebook, especially chat. Whenever I try to talk on chat while using FF, it always freezes for a few seconds when I send/receive a message. Chrome never does that. In fact, no other browser does that for me. It's the weirdest thing.


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Quote: "Whenever I try to talk on chat while using FF, it always freezes for a few seconds when I send/receive a message."


Happens to me on Opera sometimes.
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Netscape sucks.
Firefox sucks.
Chrome sucks.
Opera sucks.
MSIE sucks.
*ahem*

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I've been using Chrome for at least a year now... I think at least. I've just tried out Opera now, and I love it

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hah, I realy dont care. I have IE, chrome, opera and mozilla. I mainly use mozilla, but mainly because it's the visible icon on my task bar.


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Quote: "I have IE, chrome, opera and mozilla."


Same for me. Although, I never use Opera, and I only use IE occasionally for its support. I used to have Firefox as my primary browser, but now I love Chrome!
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I switched to Chrome about mid last year and never looked back. I still test all my sites in Firefox and IE, but Chrome is my main browser for personal use.


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I've now switched back to Chrome after installing windows 7... Opera just isn't the same

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Phaelax
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I haven't used the most recent open, but I think mine is 10.0. I always preferred it until Chrome was released. I'd put it on my mac too, if only I had an intel and not ppc.


Quote: "So fine for x86, but go anywhere else and you need to port that as well."

Windows and Mac and Linux use the same processors these days, so where's the tough portability issues anymore?

Quote: "Everyone seems to skim over the fact that whilst FF is not the fastest, it's like that for a reason: Unlike the other browsers, FF's use of XUL and other XML based stuff means that it is inherently portable"


Nobody cares that Java is slow because it is portable...... right? I'm not really concerned with easier development, ultimately the goal of any product should be the user satisfaction, not the developers.


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Quote: "Windows and Mac and Linux use the same processors these days, so where's the tough portability issues anymore?"


Mobile devices. ARM specifically.

Quote: "Nobody cares that Java is slow because it is portable...... right? I'm not really concerned with easier development, ultimately the goal of any product should be the user satisfaction, not the developers."


Well, Java isn't actually that slow - but I agree with your point. I'm not trying to say its portability excuses its lackluster speed. What I mean is, eventually it's going to become a negligible difference between native and XUL/VMed. And when that happens, the slower yet portable browsers will shine.

Think of it like UNIX. Early Unices were largely ignored because they required huge amounts of disk space and memory for the time (because they were C and hence portable vs. raw assembly/opcodes). Once the machines reached a certain speed, suddenly what made UNIX so much worse than other OSes was irrelevant. Not only was the speed/resource difference negligible, it also came with the advantage of architecture neutrality.

This is what I predict will happen with browsers. Speed is only important whilst it is the limiting factor. Once everything is 'fast enough' it will stop being important

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I guess that makes sense. I used to be very concerned with memory usage, so my choice for Chrome makes little sense, except for the fact I now have 4gb of ram and could care less about how much gets used.


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Chrome is great. It's so fast.

On my netbook I use FireFox. IE goes slower because it relies more on the processor, and netbooks only have a 1.6ghz Intel Atom Processor. With 1GB of RAM, though, FF works better because that's what it feeds off of.

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I don't mind chrome's memory usage as it's justified. Memory leaks or silly bloat bother me. But chrome's extra memory usage gives a boost in other areas. Such as sandboxing tabs, cleaning up tabs, etc.

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I love Google Chrome and I have tried IE (of course), FF, Opera, Safari, and Netscape. Google Chrome is my favorite hands down.

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