Quote: "not for us hardcore gamers who like kick-ass graphics."
IMO there's nothing hardcore about being a graphics snob. Hardcore gaming for me, is all about being able to go back and play classic game, play the best games and play them well - regardless of how they look. What if the hardest core game was a line, and a pixel, and you have to follow the line. Difficult, cruel, no graphics to speak of - and damn hardcore. I think all 3 consoles have their place, in fact every console and computer and gadget ever has it's place. Everything has a place, because it's us that make a place for these things. Why do we buy consoles when we could buy comic books or Nazi gold or air-fix kits. If we like it, then we buy it, and it's so much more fun when you are prepared to go back and look at a classic, or accept visuals for what they are. The most original games out there have terrible graphics by today's standards, it shouldn't diminish them in any way, except in the eyes of some flimsy-wristed fan-boy gamer whose favorite game of all time was released last week. It's easy to be a hardcore 360 fan, or a hardcore Wii, PS3, Gamecube fan - but being a hardcore gamer should be about not caring what console the game is on, as long as it's a decent challenge.
That's not any sort of comment about you Shaun, just showing my concern for what a hardcore gamer really is - your in enough trouble as it is mate: You said RROD in a forum thread, you've angered the beast now. You'll have RROD by the weekend, or E74

. There are issues, and I've experienced them all 5 times over, because I'm a go-to guy, so people give me their 360 to send off for them because they are too nervous and stupid

. I've got 3 x 360's now, 1 E74, 1 soon to be E74, and my own spare 360 has DVD drive issues.
I'm just gonna get an Elite, so much quieter and less likely to break my heart. Hehe, it's not like I can choose, it's not like I can go without a 360, or 2, or 3...
We have it - hardcore gaming is about dealing with RROD the same day, having a spare console just in case, having 2 identical consoles set up in your room for co-op. Spending £70 on an adaptor for the 360 to use a keyboard and mouse (ok, that's more like stupid than hardcore). It's steps like that which define the sort of gamer you are - it's pretty expensive to be hardcore, but then it's expensive to be hardcore anything. Maybe the best measure is to find the people who never get involved in these discussions, are most interested in the games, than the shape of the box the disc goes in.
I'll be hardcore, once I build my mini Bubble Bobble arcade cabinet, have all the parts, just need the free time... a trully hardcore gamer will be jealous of this possibility - it's a reliable test I think

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