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Geek Culture / Just Cause 2 is a potential game of the year!

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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 18:39 Edited at: 24th Mar 2010 18:39
Hey all,

I picked up the 360 version of Just Cause 2 last night and have been having an absolute blast with it. It is technically the most brilliant game I've played in a long time (graphics & gameplay).

Just check out this video review to see all the cool things you can do in the game

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/862520/just-cause-2/videos/justcause2_vdr_032310.html?show=hi

Over 100 vehicles including a freaking 747!


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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 18:51
Just wanted to say that I totally agree! I have pre-ordered the PC version from Steam, but have the demo on my 360 too, and it's a truly beautiful game. I just love the sandbox nature of it.. and the Avalanche engine is nothing short of stunning, even under-water! Using the grappling hook to move around quickly is a stroke of genius. And as for the parachute.. well, nuff said.

Wonderful, wonderful game.

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I keep hearing it's such an amazing game. I tried the demo but even on the lowest settings it probably runs at about 30fps, ouch.
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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 18:57
Here's another video review in better quality from Gamespot

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/justcause2/video/6254028/just-cause-2-video-review?hd=1


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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 19:25
I was a bit disappointed that shooting a gas tank then grappling it didn't send me up in the air like a rocket. Does seem like a very cool game, based on the demo - better than the first one for sure.


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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 19:45
ducktapes mouth shut.

This is a definite buy after ive finished FF13

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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 19:46
It looks nice and all but I dont like the arcade physics and that is going to keep me from buying.


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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 19:49
Van - you can't fly with the gas tanks (and you shouldn't be able to either, think how heavy you are!) but you CAN surf them If you manage to get one zooming towards you, you can stand on it and ride it!

I rode one right off a cliff, before it exploded from below me.

Also grapple one to a tree and then shoot it

For me it's the arcade physics that really make it as cool as it is. I love the fact that if I can see something, I can climb the smeg up it and base jump off the top, no matter what it is. That's just a killer feature imho.

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Yah, the physics are overblown but in a fun way... i.e. you can surf on the top of a fighter jet, parachute down to the highway, grapple onto a motorcycle, hijack it and drive it off a cliff. It's fun to grapple people to vehicles!


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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 20:05 Edited at: 24th Mar 2010 20:08
I've played with the demo, and now grappling/parachuting is my my favourite way of transport in any game ever. Also, driving a truck into a petrol station and parachuting seconds before it hits is amazing. And helicopters into cranes. And leaping off cliffs on bikes.

Edit: On the other hand, the voice acting might be some of the worst I have ever heard.

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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 20:16
Yes, the acting is bad... but bad in a "good" way.


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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 20:28 Edited at: 24th Mar 2010 20:30
You can fly with the gas tanks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf0OzZEw03A

I completely love this game! I played the demo over the weekend and pre-ordered it for the 360 instantly. Should be arriving tomorrow as it has already been dispatched.

Keep playing the demo over and over! So much fun!



The demo is so packed with goodies aswell, took me ages until I stumbled upon the tank and the plane.

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GOTY? Noo...
But yeah, it's very fun. Actually it may be a game that I had most fun from just randomly walking from city to cite and destroying everything in my way in some time...

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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 23:29
I hope it's a lot better then the PC demo, as I was really disappointed...

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Posted: 24th Mar 2010 23:35
Its ok.

Tryr before you buy people. The demo is cool but the gameplay needed some polish

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Quote: "I hope it's a lot better then the PC demo, as I was really disappointed..."


Details?


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Quote: "Quote: "I hope it's a lot better then the PC demo, as I was really disappointed..."

Details?"


Don't take that as "I don't think this game will be good" I was anticipating it, but I just was thinking there might be more, although it's probably cause I have never played a game the cuts out so much of the main dish (never played any sandbox demos). I am getting the full PC game from Gamestop today. I was also thinking that there were going to be fully destructive environments (like mercenaries 2), but I guess not. Still I hope to have fun with this game and I do like it just expected a tad bit more

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Quote: "I was anticipating it, but I just was thinking there might be more, although it's probably cause I have never played a game the cuts out so much of the main dish (never played any sandbox demos)."


I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, but what do you mean by "cuts out so much of the main dish"? I'm not far enough into the actual missions to get a sense of what you're referring to


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Posted: 25th Mar 2010 00:23
Sounds like I need to get this, haven't bought a good console game in some time.
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Quote: "Quote: "I was anticipating it, but I just was thinking there might be more, although it's probably cause I have never played a game the cuts out so much of the main dish (never played any sandbox demos)."

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, but what do you mean by "cuts out so much of the main dish"? I'm not far enough into the actual missions to get a sense of what you're referring to "


By cutting out I meant, like non sandbox game demos, ill use an example an FPS. An FPS demo will play and be like the full game, just with more unlocks, campaign, and other things you get. Although for this game there are 100+ vehicles when the demo had like 10. All I meant was the demo was a big cliff hanger leaving you to want more.

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Ahhh I see... you're comparing the demo to the full game. I thought you were saying the full game is emptier than other full games. My brain is half asleep...


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I dunno what people are talking about gameplay, that's the best bit. It's the story and acting that's a bit off, but it's the most fun to play casually I reckon.

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I hadn't heard of it before, but I tried the demo for 360 and it's a lot of fun. It's on my birthday list (for this weekend), so hopefully I'll be getting it soon .

Anyone see this yet? A LOST easter egg, pretty awesome .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzZS46B8Rhs


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/me wishes he had $50 to spend on a game

That looks amazing.

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Tried the demo, and I must say I wasn't very impressed. So all you do is run around shooting and blowing things up just to cause "Chaos"? Kind of stupid and boring if you ask me.

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I was thoroughly disappointed with the first one but I've heard nothing but good things from this mates and reviews about this. Will pick it up when I get the chance.

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Quote: "So all you do is run around shooting and blowing things up just to cause "Chaos"? Kind of stupid and boring if you ask me."

Are you a male? . Really that's not all there is to it, there's 100+ vehicles, a massive island (1000 sq km, the developers said), and missions to do if you want.


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Quote: "Are you a male? . Really that's not all there is to it, there's 100+ vehicles, a massive island (1000 sq km, the developers said), and missions to do if you want."


Of course I'm male, but I'm just not 12. Okay, so you have 100+ vehicles to destroy stuff with, a massive island to destroy stuff in, and missions that tell you to go destroy stuff. But still, all you do is run around shooting and blowing things up. Maybe the demo cut out a lot of the meat of the game, but there wasn't much of a story in what I played of it. Yeah, the gameplay was somewhat fun, but it was all really pointless without much of a story.

I certainly wouldn't spend any money on it.

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Quote: "Quote: "Are you a male? . Really that's not all there is to it, there's 100+ vehicles, a massive island (1000 sq km, the developers said), and missions to do if you want."

Of course I'm male, but I'm just not 12. Okay, so you have 100+ vehicles to destroy stuff with, a massive island to destroy stuff in, and missions that tell you to go destroy stuff. But still, all you do is run around shooting and blowing things up. Maybe the demo cut out a lot of the meat of the game, but there wasn't much of a story in what I played of it. Yeah, the gameplay was somewhat fun, but it was all really pointless without much of a story.

I certainly wouldn't spend any money on it."


Quote: "Quote: "So all you do is run around shooting and blowing things up just to cause "Chaos"? Kind of stupid and boring if you ask me.""


Isint that like most FPS's and Action games, just some are a bit more organized lol

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Quote: "Isint that like most FPS's and Action games"


Hence why I don't like most FPS's and Action games. For me, gameplay comes second to story, and the demo of Just Cause 2 didn't really have much in the way of a story. There's no goal, you're just running around aimlessly shooting and killing and blowing things up. It's not the violence or gameplay I have a problem with (in fact it's pretty good in this game, or at least the demo), it's the pointlessness.

Look at Mass Effect. There's shooting and killing and blowing stuff up, and you could argue tha the shooting, killing, and blowing stuff up in Just Cause 2 is more fun. But in Mass Effect, there's actually a story and goal. You're not just running around aimlessly killing and blowing things up, you're on a mission. You have to stop the villian, or innocent people will die. There is no such mission in Just Cause 2, you just cause chaos.

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This game just seems like those times you get bored on GTA and decide to go on a rampage, but that's the whole game!
The first one got really repetitive and boring, this looks more impressive but I wont buy it. It's a nice technical demo but it doesn't look like a game I'd enjoy.

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Quote: "Okay, so you have 100+ vehicles to destroy stuff with, a massive island to destroy stuff in, and missions that tell you to go destroy stuff. But still, all you do is run around shooting and blowing things up."


There is a lot of blowing stuff up, yes. But it's not all that. The island itself is an incredible place to explore, and the ways in which you can traverse it are many and varied. It's also as stunning to see underwater as it is above, which is quite rare.

There are some really fun 'race missions', where you don't blow anything up, it's just about getting from A to B as fast as possible - and in JC2 that can mean anything - drive a bike off a cliff and parachute there, take a chopper or a jet fighter, or a motorbike for some pretty awesome off-roading. Sometimes there are "ascent" races, where you have to grapple and climb to the top of really tall places as quickly as possible. There are also package missions (finding lots of packages, some at sea, etc).

I agree the story is paper thin, and the videos all focus on the blowing stuff up, but it's a true sandbox game with a beautiful engine powering it. And just exploring is fun enough for me.

Quote: "For me, gameplay comes second to story"


That's really bizarre. For me story is almost irrelevant, gameplay is everything.

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I am so getting this game. Looks awesome and fun.

Quote: "That's really bizarre. For me story is almost irrelevant, gameplay is everything."

I agree, Whats the point of a good story when it's not fun to play? Might as well be a movie.

From watching the trailers and youtube videos, I can tell that this is one of those games where it is fun to explore. And when that's getting old time to go blow something to pieces.

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Quote: "For me, gameplay comes second to story"


Really?? For me it's *all* about gameplay, with story much further down the list. Most of the retro games didn't have any story but they were addicting in their own ways. Yes, Just Cause 2's story is lame, but if you want a captivating narrative you'd be better off reading a book or watching a movie


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Looks and sounds like a fun game....too bad for me.

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Some people are making some really funny videos of the gameplay, check this one out (with sound )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3rSSd0opis


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Lol, you're still on XP?

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What's wrong with XP?

I WANT THIS GAME

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Check out some of these awesome scenery shots:

http://www.bitmob.com/articles/picture-perfect-just-cause-2s-island-of-panau


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Quote: "Hence why I don't like most FPS's and Action games. For me, gameplay comes second to story, and the demo of Just Cause 2 didn't really have much in the way of a story. There's no goal, you're just running around aimlessly shooting and killing and blowing things up. It's not the violence or gameplay I have a problem with (in fact it's pretty good in this game, or at least the demo), it's the pointlessness."


Oh, I see. So that's why CoD multiplayer is so popular?
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Quote: "Lol, you're still on XP?"

Uh, yeah; some of us can't afford new computers, or OS's.

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Quote: "Of course I'm male, but I'm just not 12. Okay, so you have 100+ vehicles to destroy stuff with, a massive island to destroy stuff in, and missions that tell you to go destroy stuff. But still, all you do is run around shooting and blowing things up. Maybe the demo cut out a lot of the meat of the game, but there wasn't much of a story in what I played of it. Yeah, the gameplay was somewhat fun, but it was all really pointless without much of a story.
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Relax, I'm just joking with you . I agree with the others, I'm all about gameplay, I could care less about story. Even in games where there is a story, like Oblivion or Fallout 3, I prefer to just go off and do my own thing, but it's just a personal preference thing. Some people love games for the stories they tell, I love them for the worlds they create where you can create your own "story" (even if that's just playing around in the engine).


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Ok I've been playing this like mad, and taking lots of screen shots too Jeku - have you found the Mile High Club yet?! It's stunning! I flew a chopper up there, and then stole the jet that is on it and zoomed off over the mountains, River Raid style.

I've uploaded my best pictures to Flickr. Here's one of my favourites:



and here's a slideshow showing the rest

http://www.flickr.com/photos/48758837@N04/show/with/4466454843/

I flew all the way back over to where the demo was set, and the base is a little different but the villages are the same. At the top of the mountain where you destroy the comms tower I noticed a little scorpion running around, which I thought was a nice touch

What an incredible game! Does anyone know if there are underwater vehicles? I really want to try that.

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Just got the PC game and I have to say the demo didn't show jack! The main game is amazing, I love the scale and exploration. The vehicle amount is staggering it was so fun to grab a military jet and in mid in hijack a 474 and crash that into an oil rig. The 474, ellipse and harrier are pretty much the best air vehicles, haven't found anything underwater though and don't know much about land. The graphics are top notch (I will post screen shots in a second). The game play is really fun also, although yes the story is lacking a little, I don't expect good story lines in sandbox games. The combat system is really good, it links into a really good way of hijacking vehicles with the grappling hook and a little mini game. You can duel wield and have 1 big weapon. You also have little personal transportation with your black market friend (to call in weapons and some vehicles) that will deliver you key points.

Quote: "Jeku - have you found the Mile High Club yet?!"


The air balloon rave area, that was a really funny Easter egg. Was it an Easter egg just seems random or does it link to a mission? Also who the heck gives bar tenders military grade shotguns?!

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Here is a Video of the jet also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jvc5gvLMpM

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Quote: "The air balloon rave area, that was a really funny Easter egg. Was it an Easter egg just seems random or does it link to a mission?"


I don't think it's an easter egg because it appears on the map. Apparently there is a tribute to Lost somewhere on the islands though.

I have not played the story enough to know if the club is a mission or not - but it would not surprise me if it was!

One thing I really don't like though are the race missions.. I have not managed to complete a single one yet

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Quote: "Apparently there is a tribute to Lost somewhere on the islands though."

There is, watched my mate find that. I also watched him massacre everyone in the mile high club, before stealing the jet and gliding away on it.
After briefly playing it, I can't wait to pick it up next pay day. It knocked BC2 and FF off my list.

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@Richard - I haven't got very far in the game yet to be honest, I've been so busy with other things. I have started going through the story today though, and right away they give me a timed mission to disarm some bombs in 4 minutes. It seems really difficult and I'm dying quite a bit. In my opinion there are not many worse game design choices than timed missions, and it's really getting frustrating so quick into my total game play


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Really?? For me it's *all* about gameplay, with story much further down the list. Most of the retro games didn't have any story but they were addicting in their own ways. Yes, Just Cause 2's story is lame, but if you want a captivating narrative you'd be better off reading a book or watching a movie "


Yeah, gameplay should come first I don't like of how tweelve year olds make graphics first. I mean really?! No one cares about how much polygons are on the characters but is it fun? Same thing with trailers...

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