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Geek Culture / I've finally had enough...

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Oolite
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Posted: 20th May 2010 04:47
So just over a month ago I was sitting around browsing the forums, with a cigarette in my hand. It had been quite a while since I had enjoyed the debate and intelligent discussion this forum can sometimes produce and it was becoming somewhere to just kill time, or get myself through another all nighter. It had slipped, this place, overfilled with idiots, pointless posts and nonsensical ramblings.
I lit up another cigarette and sat back in my chair, pondering about life in general and wondering if I was really going to continue this.

It had been a while since I had enjoyed the sensation of smoking, the thought of the cigarette rolling in my hand as the smoke flows like silk from my mouth. I took my last drag and extinguished the flame inside of the ashtray. I stared contemplatively at the screen, I had been staring at the geek culture forums, once they were blue, now they are grey. Everything had been visited, everything had been checked, double checked, hell even triple checked.
"I can't do this any more, I have to do something about it." I said as the smell from the extinguished cigarette drifted up my nose.

I hastily grabbed the ashtray and my remaining cigarettes and threw them all into the bin. The ash flowing up for freedom as I slammed the lid shut. It was from that moment on, that I realised I had to quit. I'd finally had enough of smoking.



So it's my second day with no sleep (hence why I probably decided to make an unfunny joke in the form of a long and ultimately boring story), but it has been a month since I packed in smoking and I haven't touched them since. I invested in an Electronic cigarette and have used it to cut down my nicotine intake. I managed to move through the dosages each week and now i'm only using it for the taste(as i'm on the 0 nicotine eliquid now).
They aren't marketed as a smoking cessation device, but as a healthy alternative to smoking. Either way they have done wonders for me. It's probably due to the fact that they emit a water vapour that simulates the effects of smoking, much better than any of those nicotine inhalators can.
Anyone who ever got into an argument with me about smoking, would know that I really did use to enjoy them. Over the past two months though, smoking hadn't been as appealing to me as it once was, the taste in my mouth was getting increasingly worse and I wasn't enjoying the sensation at all. I must admit I do still like the smell of smoke, but I feel a lot better for quitting and I hope I never go back.
There has been a lot of bad press about Ecigs lately, but they have helped me and I would recommend them to anyone.

Anyone else had any similar experiences with quitting?

DJ Almix
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Posted: 20th May 2010 05:36 Edited at: 20th May 2010 05:38
I...wow...I felt like I just read a story, you described it like a writer. Anyways sorry about this unless post just complementing your writing style, but congratulations ! It's a real good thing for you to make yourself go through the process of quitting without getting insensitive from someone else. Enjoy the future improvements in your health (I could never smoke or drink, taste terrible to me.)

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Posted: 20th May 2010 05:55
Congrats on quitting. I quit on June 30, 1996.
I also like your writing style and being about ready to turn in for the night, I could have read on a little more before turning off the light.

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Posted: 20th May 2010 07:30 Edited at: 20th May 2010 07:30
I have "quitted" smoking at least 3 times.
For me, free time is meaningless without a smoke.
I used to smoke 2 packs and a half a day, but I have cut down to 1 pack. The thing is, when I'm in the process of quiting, it's easy.
The hard part comes when you're discussing about alternative lifeforms in the universe over a glass of whisky with your best friend.
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Posted: 20th May 2010 10:56
I didn't mind the story, I rather enjoyed it That's awesome though. It's a nasty habit with all sorts of health problems attached. I've never smoked though, so, I can't really offer much advice or counsel other than keep it up!

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Green Gandalf
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Posted: 20th May 2010 13:06
Quote: "The hard part comes when you're discussing about alternative lifeforms in the universe over a glass of whisky with your best friend."


I know exactly what you mean, Dextro. It took me a long time to break the link between alcohol and smoking - but it was worth it. I haven't smoked since about 1987.

Good luck Oolite. Keep it up.
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Posted: 20th May 2010 13:35
I was plesently surprised when i read this, i thought it'd another, I cant take it! Im leaving or something stupid like that. But the story was rather nice and the outcome all the better.

A pint to good health cheers!

-Con

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Posted: 20th May 2010 17:14
For a minute I thought you were leaving the forums and I was like "Crap!"

Anyway good going for your health hope you can keep it up!

The Slayer
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Posted: 20th May 2010 20:16
For me it's now five years I quit smoking, and I don't regret it one moment that I've stopped. I was addicted to cigarets when I was ten years old (or young actually). My older brothers smoked at that time, so I just went along with that nasty habit to fit into the 'group'.
I no longer have the urge to smoke nowadays. That used to be the other way around, though.
Since I stopped, my health is much much better, the food that I eat tastes ten times better than before, I sleep way better, my condition has improved a lot, my *** life is better ( ), my finances grow without doing anything extra, etc...
Stopping with smoking is not easy, I know, but if you're really conviced and determined to do this, then you're on the right track.
Every second, every minute, every day, week, month that you don't relight a cigarette, is a triump for yourself. Just hang on to that thought and don't let go. Think about all the good things you'll get by stopping.
So, respect to you, Oolite, and keep it up!

Cheers

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Posted: 20th May 2010 20:38 Edited at: 20th May 2010 20:41
Congrats, Oolite, and I hope you continue with your personal prohibition! And kudos to a very nicely written (coughmist sparks a cig.) testament to the strength of habit!

I have battled the beast myself, many times before, and as you can see... I have lost every time since I started. There have been times where I have gone up to a week without smoking, but alas, it is just too easy for me to say (and comes too naturally), "And a box of Camels" when I am paying for gas or buying a soda.

There is just something about the euphoric claws of a newly lit cigarette digging into my overstressed brain that convinces me I want, nay, I need to keep smoking. Then halfway through, I get angry that I can't control my urges and then try to preoccupy my brain with a book or something else to deter my mental uprising. I do think a lot of the ambition to continue comes from the past vices I have cut, though. I justify my smoking by saying, "at least it's not *blank*" and minimizing the repercussions in my head.

Hopefully what I have to say and how I justify my actions will help you realize just how stupid it is to smoke. Remember, folks. Don't be like Coughmist. Anyway, I feel for you Oolite, and for your loss of a backstabbing past-time. May its absence strengthen your body and mind!

(Ahh*cough*hhh... *ashtray, ashtray, stir the ashes to get the last ember out* another $0.25 up in smoke... )

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Posted: 20th May 2010 20:49
Congrats Oolite! It's very hard to break a habit with addiction involved. I don't know how it is with cigarettes, because I don't smoke, but I don't have the willpower you have.

Do you write often? The style you used was amazing

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Posted: 20th May 2010 21:01
Congratulations Oolite, here's to many a healthy, happy year

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Posted: 20th May 2010 21:34
Congrats!

Now you won't get lung cancer.

Or will you?

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Posted: 20th May 2010 22:11
Now that I'm awake, allow me to pass on a few things that helped me when I quit. It really helps to have a dramatic reason, like "if you don't quit smoking you'll die in six months" but it's great to quit before that.

- Get rid of your stash. Don't keep any around for that moment when you just have to have it. Throw or give away your lighters and matches. Don't have any in the house, work or car. Empty all your ashtrays.

- Tell everyone you know that you quit. It's too easy to start again if no one knows you quit.

- Drink a lot of water, especially in the first two weeks. This helps to flush the nicotine and craving from your system when it's at it's strongest. After the first two weeks, it's a lot more habit and less chemical dependency. Don't substitute other drinks for the water, like coffee or coke and definitely stay away from alcohol. Drinking lots of coke or coffee just substitutes one habit for another, and isn't healthy.

- During times when you enjoy or need a cigarette most, like when you wake up, after meals or sex, do something different like taking a walk, run or work out. If possible, do something healthy instead and you'll kill two birds with one stone. The stronger your body, the easier it is to beat the craving and the results will give you the encouragement to go on.

- Stay away from places and people who cause you to smoke. If you play poker with the boys every Thursday night and they smoke, put it off for a few weeks or as long as you can.

- If you find yourself in a spot where you just can't stand the craving and you're about to light up, take a shower, go to the store (someplace where smoking is not allowed) or another venue where you can't smoke.

Best of luck to you.

The Slayer
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Posted: 20th May 2010 22:49
Quote: "After the first two weeks, it's a lot more habit and less chemical dependency."

Actually, the nicotine is completely out of your body after 48 hours, but it takes 10 to 15 years before your body has fully recovered from all the damage those filthy cigarettes have done to you.

Other than that, some very good tips, xplosys!

Here are some other ones:

- Start doing other things to get you through the day. Don't do the same things you did while you were a prisoner of the cigarets. Start some new hobby's, preferably those who keep your mind or hands busy. Change your daily routine.

- Whenever you feel like smoking, think of something funny or things that make you happy. Take steady deep breaths and relax yourself. Reward yourself mentally for everytime you've managed to stay without smoking! Don't forget: it's YOU who's the boss, NOT the cigarettes! Convince yourself that you don't need those filthy cancersticks to survive!

- Talk to everyone you know about how determined you are. If you know somebody else who's stopping (or wants to stop), motivate each other and give each other the drive to go for it and keep it up!

Cheers

Slayer rules!!! Yeaaah, man!
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Posted: 20th May 2010 23:32
Quote: "Actually, the nicotine is completely out of your body after 48 hours"


Yes, that's true but it sure doesn't feel like it. They say two days, I say two weeks for good measure.

I agree, peer support is a great factor but sometimes difficult to find. The pressure will be on you to stay in the group, doing the same thing day after day. You may have to change friends or start hanging more with one who doesn't smoke/drink for a while.

I quit smoking and drinking on the same day. There's no way I could have kept drinking and stopped smoking.

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Posted: 21st May 2010 00:20
I found it easier to never start in the first place.


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Oolite
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Posted: 21st May 2010 00:39
Cheers for the support guys, i can't stress that enough. I did make sure to tell everyone i know that i was packing it in, it made it much harder for me to go back into it.
It has not been easy so far though, the missus is still a smoker and as much as I love her, the smell of lingering cigarettes is beginning to repulse me.
I did say I still liked the smell of smoke, which i do, but the smell on her breath and clothes isn't nice one bit. Still, I can't stop her and i'm never going to be the person who tries to force anyone to quit.
All of my cigarettes have gone (The girlfriends are still around, but i haven't smoked straight cigarettes for years, I was a rollup man.) and i've even managed a night down the pub without them so it's going well. I worked it out today and it'll be 5 weeks tomorrow since I last had a cigarette, what a great way to celebrate but with a day of Red Dead.

I had previously "quit" smoking on several occasions but realised that i'd need to stick to it this time, so i intend to. The best thing about using this e cigarette is that any time i feel a craving i can just take a few puffs on it(0 nicotine i may add). It's great knowing i'm curing that inevitable short tempered me and even better still, being able to quit in relative comfort.
The last time i tried to quit i used aversion therapy. Where i put a tight elastic band around my wrist. Every time i felt a craving or thought of cigarettes i'd snap the elastic band. It hurt like hell and worked for about two weeks before i gave up, left a nice scar as well...

Regarding my writing, i'm no writer and i'm surprised that you're all impressed. The past few years i have been working on a script for my dream project so maybe i picked up a few skills there.

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Posted: 21st May 2010 00:46
It's great that you quit. I never started myself because as a child my mother showed me a picture... of a smoker's lung... after they had died. I don't want to die with my lungs looking like very shriveled prunes... eww... Yeah... that picture was just that gross to me. X(

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Posted: 21st May 2010 01:24
Quote: "For a minute I thought you were leaving the forums and I was like "Crap!""


Same here, although I've not known Oolite for long .

I like the idea of those E-Cigarettes, I don't smoke so I can't judge, but maybe I can sneak some in for my mum .

@Lonnehart,

That 'Shock-Treatment' method is kinda dead now, everyone knows about it now so yeah . I tried getting my mum to stop smoking by showing her the pic but no luck :L she's not a heavy smoker either...

And that story was epic, Oolite, I actually imagined the scene, and it takes a naturally great writer to do that .

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Posted: 21st May 2010 02:35
Quote: "I actually imagined the scene"


Same. I imagined the head being the one you use for your avatar.

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SikaSina Games said:
Quote: "@Lonnehart,

That 'Shock-Treatment' method is kinda dead now, everyone knows about it now so yeah . I tried getting my mum to stop smoking by showing her the pic but no luck :L she's not a heavy smoker either...
"


It doesn't work very well on adults as they've seen lots of things like that. I was around 10 years old at the time my mother showed me the picture and told me about how I'll end up having problems breathing when I grew up. She also showed me pictures of drunken "bums" who are scraping out an existence trying to get that next bottle of booze...

Ever thought of doing any sort of hobby to take your mind off those cigarettes/cigars? I'm sure there's quite a few... like rebuilding old cars, collecting stamps, reading books, etc...

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Posted: 21st May 2010 07:35
When I read the title of this thread, I thought it was going to be another "I'm leaving TGC" thread. But fortunately the thread turned out to be not a total waste of time and server space! Good job man.

Oolite
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Posted: 24th May 2010 02:13
Quote: "Same. I imagined the head being the one you use for your avatar. "

ha, this made me laugh. My Avatar is a rough likeness of me I made years ago. I hate to disappoint though, but I do have hair.

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Posted: 24th May 2010 02:34 Edited at: 24th May 2010 02:35
I am writing this letter because I take issue with some of Cigarrete's allocutions. Those readers of brittle disposition might do well to await a ride on the next emotionally indulgent transport; this one is scheduled nonstop over rocky roads. As soon as you're strapped in I'll announce something to the effect of how Cigarrete has been deluding people into believing that it is a champion of liberty and individual expression. Don't let it delude you, too.

Rather than persuade you myself that I must defend my honor, I decided to gather input from various independent observers: teachers, farmers, shopkeepers, doctors, and so forth. I've tried to get balanced and reasonably accurate views about Cigarrete's nutty perversions. For instance, a policeman I interviewed pointed out how Cigarrete refers to a variety of things using the word "galvanocontractility". Translating this bit of jargon into English isn't easy. Basically, it's saying that governments should have the right to lie to their own subjects or to other governments, which we all know is patently absurd. At any rate, we must expose its malversation. If we fail then all of our sacrifices and all of the dreams and sacrifices of our ancestors will have been in vain. The key is to realize that Cigarrete has hatched all sorts of childish plans. Remember its attempt to empty the meaning of such concepts as "self," "justice," "freedom," and other profundities? No? That's because Cigarrete is so good at concealing its hopeless activities.

Here, I am merely trying to advance the opinion that for the nonce, Cigarrete is content to take credit for others' accomplishments. But by next weekend, it will eroticize relations of dominance and subordination. While you or I might find it natural to want to upbraid Cigarrete for being so mealymouthed, I want to make this clear so that those who do not understand deeper messages embedded within sarcastic irony—and you know who I'm referring to—can process my point. Cigarrete's tracts can be subtle. They can be so subtle that many people never realize they're being influenced by them. That's why we must proactively notify humanity that Cigarrete's histrionics are not witty satire, as it would have you believe. They're simply the ghastly ramblings of something that has no idea or appreciation of what it's mocking. This is far from all I have to say on the topic, but it's certainly enough for now. Just remember one thing: Cigarrete's epigrams are now a staple of its trucklers' ultimata.
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Posted: 24th May 2010 13:56
@Joseph K: automatic complaint generator?

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Posted: 24th May 2010 14:02
Quote: "Actually, the nicotine is completely out of your body after 48 hours, but it takes 10 to 15 years before your body has fully recovered from all the damage those filthy cigarettes have done to you."


I'm guessing (like caffeine and many other stimulants) you get withdrawal symptoms though, which is presumably why it's difficult even once the nicotine is gone

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Whew... i thought this is another "i'm leaving the forum thread"
But Congrats though it will help you much in the future

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Posted: 24th May 2010 21:54 Edited at: 24th May 2010 21:57
Good work mate. I've quit loads of times. Sometimes for up to 6 months, and then started again. At one point I had a good routine where I would only smoke a pack of 10, maybe once every month, when I was doing something that 'suited' it (i.e. camping .... nothing like a log fire, a beer and a smoke in the wilderness).

I've learnt I can kick the physical addition easily. I've never really suffered from cravings. The problem is, they are a good simple pleasure which are useful during stressful or hard time. If you're a bit depressed with life, having a ciggy is great ... or perhaps you're going for a new job. They're a great post-interview reward, plus a good pre-interview destresser.

Right now, I have a plan for when to quit next. Whether I kick the habit for good is all down to what situations I find myself in in the future. Yes, it is weak to turn to smoking when things get rough, but it works for me, so I'm down with it!

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Quote: "I'm guessing (like caffeine and many other stimulants) you get withdrawal symptoms though,"


Yeah, I think that after 2 weeks the physical addiction goes away. Never smoked, so I have no idea.

Quote: "I hate to disappoint though, but I do have hair."


Awwww.

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Posted: 24th May 2010 22:45 Edited at: 24th May 2010 23:00
dude, there is a russian rock song from the 80s that goes something like: If in your pocket, theres a pack of cigarettes, that meant not everything went bad taday

as for smoking there is really something about it. i mean i have a job that requres me to travel all over the city, most of my time is spent walking, i get a lot of physical and mental exersize, i have awesome hobbies, i enjoy my life and yet still i like smoking.

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Posted: 25th May 2010 04:29
Quote: "Quote: "I hate to disappoint though, but I do have hair."

Awwww."


It's funny when users have human likenesses or pictures of other people as their avatar. Oolite, I imagine you as this guy with a shaved head and slight goatee.

And I also know what Jeku looks like, but seeing his avatar makes such a close association in my mind to the point where I sometimes forget that's not what he looks like. Same goes for Thraxas.

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And I also know what Jeku looks like, but seeing his avatar makes such a close association in my mind to the point where I sometimes forget that's not what he looks like. Same goes for Thraxas."


Me too! Cept I dunno what Jeku or Thraxas really looks like. But I see Thraxas and Jeku as their avatar. Easy for me, my avatar looks only a little like me.

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Posted: 26th May 2010 11:37
good for you, good luck with the effort

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Posted: 29th May 2010 03:55
Nice writing style and congrats on quitting. Easier when you never start thou. My grandfather just said; "This is it, I'm stopping" amd never touched a smoke again.


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