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Master Man Of Justice
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Posted: 26th May 2010 18:02 Edited at: 26th May 2010 18:08
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Ok so i go into just cause 2 and go to advanced disply settings and hit optimal settings, and it puts everything at the highest.
I have my resolution at 1600x900 and it goes to a crawl, i dont know why. Is it my graphics card?
here are my specs.

Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4650
Display Memory: 2809 MB
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4094MB RAM
Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100226-1909)
and a 750W PSU

I have a feeling its my graphics card.

oh, and if i put it on 640x480 it runs smooth but i might as well buy the console version

But the weird thing is, is i can run Modern Warfare 2 at full specs and 1600x900 and im getting 40-50fps

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David R
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Posted: 26th May 2010 18:25 Edited at: 26th May 2010 18:32
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Quote: "
oh, and if i put it on 640x480 it runs smooth but i might as well buy the console version"

Quote: "
But the weird thing is, is i can run Modern Warfare 2 at full specs and 1600x900 and im getting 40-50fps"


Therefore, it's very unlikely to be your GPU (that is, the GPU is not defective / it's not a driver issue assuming you've kept them up to date)

Have you actually tried it at anything between 640x480 and 1600x900? (when playing Just Cause)

Because you have to keep in mind that even for a capable GPU, sometimes upscaling the resolution a very small amount can have a massive negative impact on certain operations (especially for shaders which cover large patches of what you can see). I don't know what 'power range' your card is in but it may simply be a case of 'a resolution too far' so to speak

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Master Man Of Justice
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Posted: 26th May 2010 19:20 Edited at: 26th May 2010 19:25
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Well yes i tried it at 800x600 and it i was getting 20 fps.
640x480 i was getting 50-60 fps, so idk what the problem is, here are the power ratings.

GPU clock is at 300 mhz
High Performance Memory clock is at 400 mhz

i have the ability to over clock it but doesnt that void the warranty? Also , at 300mhz it runs at an average 39 degrees celsius.

In my ATI CCC, it says that if i overclock i can go to a max of 778 mhz and a recommended 600 mhz

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Posted: 26th May 2010 19:51
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Right, OK - so it sucks at pretty much every resolution rather than rock bottom.

In which case: Are your GPUs drivers up to date?

Quote: "GPU clock is at 300 mhz
High Performance Memory clock is at 400 mhz
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Is the card model you stated the exact card model? (i.e. it isn't an inferior 4650 with some added suffix or something is it?) - just that if you look up the specs for the card it states 600MHz is the core clock speed, so you have it considerably under clocked (so follow ATI's CC recommendation and go for 600MHz).

It's unlikely this is directly causing your problem, but try it

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Posted: 26th May 2010 20:11 Edited at: 26th May 2010 20:38
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This is the exact card i bought from newegg

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161305


Im also afraid if i overclock it it will void the warranty, will it do that? i cant find any info on it .


Nevermind, i found that it wont, as long as i use the settings within their software, but they dont cover other damage like, if it got too hot and fried my memory or something like that.

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charger bandit
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Posted: 26th May 2010 21:02
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Your GPU is pretty horrible and is kinda low-range graphics card so I suggest getting a new card.


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Posted: 26th May 2010 21:08 Edited at: 26th May 2010 21:25
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Well i start work in a week or two so i should be able to get a new one in a month.

[edit]

OMG I just about shat my pants when i saw this.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814195094

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alright, my target is locked on, this is the one im working for

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102883

and does anyone know if there is any cheaper price on the 5870 then newegg?(not used)

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Posted: 26th May 2010 21:43 Edited at: 26th May 2010 21:43
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Quote: "alright, my target is locked on, this is the one im working for

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102883"


Wow, you don't play around. Nice card.

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David R
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Posted: 26th May 2010 22:05 Edited at: 26th May 2010 22:33
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Again, before rushing off to buy a new card: Are your drivers up to date? Is the game up to date? etc.

EDIT:

Also, forgot to mention:

Quote: "and hit optimal settings, and it puts everything at the highest.
I have my resolution at 1600x900 and it goes to a crawl, i dont know why."


Maybe the game is a little borked at autodetecting the settings. Manually decrease the detail without changing resolution (if possible). That should make it playable at least

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Posted: 26th May 2010 22:31 Edited at: 26th May 2010 22:33
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@ Lemonade my 7 bucks an hour will take a couple weeks to get it XD but nope, if im upgrading, im doing it to mean something.

and @ David R

yes my drivers are fully updated at current version 10.4

and @ Lemonade again,

Whats even cooler is i will be able to use both of them with crossfire, i think... er... maybe someone with experience in crossfire can tell me if that would work. but that would be sick!

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Posted: 27th May 2010 16:25
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Nah,two completely different GPU's in crossfire won't work. Just go for the Sapphire 5870 if you can afford it,it will meance anything you will throw at it. Best pick


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Posted: 27th May 2010 16:27
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sounds good. im just flabbergasted at how one graphics card costs more then a current gen console

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